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Title: Oregon Seizes Bank Accounts of Christian Baker Who Refused to Make a Wedding Cake for perverted dykes
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ore ... baker-who-refused-gay-wed-cake
Published: Jan 2, 2016
Author: Trey Sanchez
Post Date: 2016-01-02 13:04:36 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 7632
Comments: 64

Melissa Klein, the owner of the bakery that refused to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding ceremony, has revealed that the state of Oregon seized all of her bank accounts weeks before she planned to pay the settlement from the suit brought against her by the couple.

According to Fox News, Klein and her husband were hit with a penalty of over $135,000 in July payable to the lesbian couple who cited "emotional suffering" for the mom-and-pop bakers holding to their Christian beliefs. The state, ignoring the couple's religious liberty, agreed and said the small business, Sweet Cakes by Melissa, couldn't discriminate against the rights of LGBT customers.

The Kleins quickly gained support for standing up for their own rights and began receiving donations which were kept in a separate account from their personal banking in order to pay the settlement. But in the weeks before Christmas, Mrs. Klein was shocked to find out that Oregon's Bureau of Labor and Industries had confiscated all the money in all of her accounts.

“It was like my breath was taken away,” Melissa Klein said to Fox's Todd Starnes. “I panicked. Everything was gone.”

“We had three accounts,” she continued. “I have one account that’s labeled, ‘God’s money’ – our tithing. They just took it.”

An attorney for the couple said the fight is not over and the couple "will continue to work to ensure that every American has the First Amendment right to express their faith-based beliefs, and to conduct their daily affairs according to their conscience."

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#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

Have noticed much less activity here on these boards lately. I have spent a lot of time at Sportshoopla, they have a very active political board there.

Being a Seahawks fan is how I found the place. The politics board may have a thousand posts a day.

Gatlins and misterwhite and Roscoe have won. There is no place for Liberty at any FR spinoff site.

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2016-01-03   16:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Dead Culture Watch (#24)

Thanks for the tip. I have zero interest in sports,but the political page there looks interesting,so I registered.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-03   18:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dead Culture Watch (#24)

Gatlins and misterwhite and Roscoe have won.

It was easy. All you have are feelz.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-03   18:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

Have some awesome emoticons, a hundred at least. Heck, I can even post gifs easily from my iPhone. Check out the stolen valor thread there, right up your alley.

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2016-01-03   19:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#23)

Our rights are dependent on our actions - choices ... just because you pull a gun - fictitious law on someone --- doesn't mean it exists !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-03   19:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Roscoe (#26)

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2016-01-03   20:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dead Culture Watch (#29)

They have standards.

Feelz and more feelz? Safe spaces for cowardly little know-nothings like yourself?

Run to them.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   0:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dead Culture Watch, Roscoe (#29)

You wouldn't last there. They have standards. Statists who pose as conservatives would be booted fairly quickly.

I went to glance through it and found it was about like LF overall, not much better or worse.

Lots of personal chitchat nothing-news or non-news threads (Please pray for my 97yo mother, she's just too young to die). Et cetera.

If anything, there are far more raving statists there than here at LF. I saw plenty demanding that the feds should use drones to Hellfire the Bundy brothers. For no good reason really. It's not like they pose any threat to anyone other than the threat of a bad example.

It looks to me like SH started their political section to keep politics off their sports threads. And it keeps their posters from running off to some other political forum when they do want to discuss politics due to some hot-button current issue.

So I don't get the hoopla over political threads at Sportshoop.la.

Beyond that, it is another very poor forum software if you actually want to chat on topics or find old topics in a given subject area. Admittedly, LF's article categories are so ridiculous that it is much harder to find anything here than it should be but it is still better than Sportshoopla fundamentally. Lots of people have tried to create political forums with these BBCode-style generic forums but they never really work or last. Only a handful of forum software like TOS or Pinguinite (LF's forum software) have ever managed to do an adequate job for political chat sites. If Sportshoopla did not have sports as its main draw and tried to make a go with just politics, it wouldn't last a year and would lose 90% of its readers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   1:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative, Dead Culture Watch (#31)

I went to glance through it and found it was about like LF overall, not much better or worse.

Oh, well. Poor Dead Culture Watch will just have to keep waiting for a handsome prince to come rescue him from the horrible mansplaining on LF.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   1:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Roscoe (#32)

Oh, well. Poor Dead Culture Watch will just have to keep waiting for a handsome prince to come rescue him from the horrible mansplaining on LF.

If LF were properly moderated, things would be politer here and rude people would find they could only post a few rude comments per day. It's not a lack in LF's software, it's a lack of will on AKA's part.

You can see that LF had a big influx of LP refugees and how it is dwindling. In large part, it is due to a lack of willingness (or time perhaps) to moderate it.

Moderating a forum is a long and thankless job generally. It is one reason why TOS sucks hundreds of thousands a year from its patrons to keep their chat site between the lines and out of the ditch (and still fails in many ways).

As the number of chat site members increases linearly, personality conflicts and malicious posters increase exponentially. Anonymous posters really exacerbates the problem and brings out the worst in people.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   1:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Roscoe, Dead Culture Watch (#32)

Oh, well. Poor Dead Culture Watch will just have to keep waiting for a handsome prince to come rescue him from the horrible mansplaining on LF.

You neglected to consider that you might be a real asshole who takes pride in his assholery on anonymous chat sites.

Not that I'm any saint in this regard. And DCW has had his moments as well.

In some ways, a sports chat site lets everyone choose sides and have their little group hates in a way that is less toxic. In sports, eventually your teams play and one wins or loses for the season. In politics, things can just boil along for years, decades even. So political chat sites are probably more toxic for that reason.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   1:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TooConservative (#34)

DCW has had his moments as well.

He's a special snowflake.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Roscoe, Dead Culture Watch (#35)

BTW, you may have noticed that LF's posters have mansplained the issues so well that there isn't a single woman who posts here, not counting that teen girl who posted a little in the last month (assuming she's not actually a middle-aged FBI agent trolling for pedophiles).

There has to be some problem with the moderation when the majority of human race won't even post at all.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   2:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TooConservative (#33)

It's not a lack in LF's software, it's a lack of will on AKA's part.

You can't blame AKA for low quality posters like DCW. A new forum wouldn't change what he is.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TooConservative (#36)

LF's posters have mansplained the issues so well

Only a few. Most are all feelz.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#38)

Only a few. Most are all feelz.

There is the matter of tone and courtesy as well.

With your wife or girlfriend or mom, do you start a discussion of a difference of opinion with, "Listen up, you moron, this is how it is!"? Of course not.

Even if you're 100% right on an issue, taking an arrogant or condescending tone with others guarantees you lose 100% of the time. Not on the merits but on the "feelz". And that is just human nature.

I guess since I brought up LF moderation in comparison to SH, I should flag AKA so we're not talking behind his back.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   2:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TooConservative (#39)

Facts, not tones, are what upsets them.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Roscoe (#40)

I think the opposite is true.

But you have the posting style of a medium Canary. I'm only guilty of having a posting style that sometimes sounds like I'm talking down to people and being a little arrogant. Anyway, that is my own main criticism of my own posts if I look back at them weeks or months later. That, and I'm way too wordy, not a terse writer.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   3:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TooConservative (#41)

I think the opposite is true.

I can't imagine how.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   3:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Roscoe (#42)

I'm saying that even if all the facts support your position, you can offend them so much in how you argue your case that they will never admit you're right and will be reactionary, taking up a hardened opposite position they would never have adopted if you hadn't decided to mansplain things to them.

Lawyers know this. No matter the facts, they are careful not to make a jury hate them because they will lose a lot of cases simply because the jury hates their guts.

I'm not sure why I'm explaining this because Canaries never grasp it. Which is why they are called Canary types.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   3:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative (#43)

I'm not sure why I'm explaining this because Canaries never grasp it.

How ironic. You have repeatedly directed pejorative terminology and ad hominem attacks at me in the thread, yet I have not responded in kind.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   10:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#44)

How ironic. You have repeatedly directed pejorative terminology and ad hominem attacks at me in the thread, yet I have not responded in kind.

Yeah but I can't help notice that you seem awfully familiar with what a Canary is, despite having only been a member here since October of 2015. You must be a very fast reader.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   11:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TooConservative (#45)

you seem awfully familiar with what a Canary is

A pejorative term you use to make personal attacks when you can't address the facts. Is that about right?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   11:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Roscoe (#46)

I think you know what a Canary is.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   11:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: TooConservative (#47)

I think you know what a Canary is.

Please define it. Then let's apply the definition to the posts in this thread.

Are you up for that challenge?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   12:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Roscoe (#46)

misterwhite  posted on  2016-01-04   12:48:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: misterwhite (#49)

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   12:50:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Roscoe, misterwhite (#50)

Takes one to know one.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   13:04:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: TooConservative (#51)

How you coming with that definition?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   13:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Roscoe (#52)

Give up. It's obvious now.

Canaries gotta do what Canaries do.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   13:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Roscoe (#46) (Edited)

Goldi from LP said Yukon ... was the chirping - warning bird --- in the mine !

Because of these subterranean morlok - druid - toxic levels here in the ... LF opium den --- you have to your own oxygen tanks to post here !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-04   13:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: BorisY (#54)

Goldi from LP said Yukon ... was the chirping - warning bird --- in the mine !

Thanks. I almost forgot where the canary reference came from.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-01-04   13:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: TooConservative (#53)

Canaries gotta do what Canaries do.

So I see.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   13:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: BorisY (#54)

Because of these subterranean morlok - druid - toxic levels here in the ... LF opium den --- you have to your own oxygen tanks to post here !

Uh oh the door hit me in the ass

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   14:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Roscoe, yukon (#57)

Yukon was hacked ! *

The KOOKS - cockroaches pecked him to death !

Even pebbles - akachalk !

Do a search on Yukon posts !

The cockroaches are winning !

* Who would accidently put up some gun right thread in the biker bar with a gay porn link !

This is gospel to these crazies !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-04   14:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Roscoe (#57)

come back

I haven't started to fight yet !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-05   12:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Roscoe (#57)

Uh oh the door hit me in the ass

smart move

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-12   19:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: BorisY (#60)

I didn't write that. Devil's Ass or one of the other cowardly mods likes to change the wording of my posts.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-14   10:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Roscoe, moderator X, Devil Anse (#61)

I didn't write that. Devil's Ass or one of the other cowardly mods likes to change the wording of my posts.

I thought that was a strange comment. I didn't understand it.

Wasn't me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-14   10:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Roscoe (#61)

Devil's Ass or

there's
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cyber war

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the
normal
vs
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crazies

love
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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-14   15:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: BorisY (#63)

Test.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-01-14   16:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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