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Title: Oregon Seizes Bank Accounts of Christian Baker Who Refused to Make a Wedding Cake for perverted dykes
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ore ... baker-who-refused-gay-wed-cake
Published: Jan 2, 2016
Author: Trey Sanchez
Post Date: 2016-01-02 13:04:36 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 7610
Comments: 64

Melissa Klein, the owner of the bakery that refused to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding ceremony, has revealed that the state of Oregon seized all of her bank accounts weeks before she planned to pay the settlement from the suit brought against her by the couple.

According to Fox News, Klein and her husband were hit with a penalty of over $135,000 in July payable to the lesbian couple who cited "emotional suffering" for the mom-and-pop bakers holding to their Christian beliefs. The state, ignoring the couple's religious liberty, agreed and said the small business, Sweet Cakes by Melissa, couldn't discriminate against the rights of LGBT customers.

The Kleins quickly gained support for standing up for their own rights and began receiving donations which were kept in a separate account from their personal banking in order to pay the settlement. But in the weeks before Christmas, Mrs. Klein was shocked to find out that Oregon's Bureau of Labor and Industries had confiscated all the money in all of her accounts.

“It was like my breath was taken away,” Melissa Klein said to Fox's Todd Starnes. “I panicked. Everything was gone.”

“We had three accounts,” she continued. “I have one account that’s labeled, ‘God’s money’ – our tithing. They just took it.”

An attorney for the couple said the fight is not over and the couple "will continue to work to ensure that every American has the First Amendment right to express their faith-based beliefs, and to conduct their daily affairs according to their conscience."

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#3. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

But in the weeks before Christmas, Mrs. Klein was shocked to find out that Oregon's Bureau of Labor and Industries had confiscated all the money in all of her accounts.

That constitutes theft.

rlk  posted on  2016-01-02   14:09:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rlk (#3)

That constitutes theft.

Theft by use of the force of arms because the state is using armed police to defend themselves and threaten the bakers.

In other words,a case could be made for armed robbery,with the Governor topping the bill.

Good luck getting a judge to hear the case,though.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-02   16:24:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#5)

That constitutes theft.

Theft by use of the force of arms because the state is using armed police to defend themselves and threaten the bakers.

In other words,a case could be made for armed robbery,with the Governor topping the bill.

Good luck getting a judge to hear the case,though.

We need an entirely different form of legal system in this country. There is provision for one but it is not taught in law schools.

rlk  posted on  2016-01-02   20:16:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rlk (#7)

We need an entirely different form of legal system in this country.

We HAVE a completely different form of legal system in this country than the one in common use. It's the one the Founding Fathers gave us,and one in which the courts have to listen to the people because the people are in charge of the govenrment.

BTW,when I write "the people",I mean the taxpaying citizens. NOT foreigners,NOT people on welfare,and NOT people who don't have jobs or own property.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-02   22:07:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#8)

We HAVE a completely different form of legal system

We did. You and the faggots helped destroy it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-03   9:28:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)

We did. You and the faggots helped destroy it.

Really? Quick quiz. Which one of us thinks that not all Americans have the same rights?

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-03   9:51:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#13)

Really? Quick quiz. Which one of us thinks that not all Americans have the same rights?

You asswipe. You prefer special rights for homos.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-03   9:55:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

You asswipe. You prefer special rights for homos.

Once again you are lying. I only demand that homosexuals have the SAME rights as the rest of us. Not more,and not less.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-03   9:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#17)

Once again you are lying. I only demand that homosexuals have the SAME rights as the rest of us. Not more,and not less.

No you supiid fucking liar. You want special rights for faggots.

Now shut the fuck up about it. I don't care to discuxs it with you. I don't like pedophile promoters.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-03   10:02:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Now shut the fuck up about it. I don't care to discuxs it with you.

Then why do you keep starting these arguments,bubba?

Your hypocrisy is your own. I just point it out.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-03   10:04:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#20) (Edited)

I just told you to shut up about it. I will call you on your lies every time. I will call you on your perversipn whenever I want to. I just don't care to discuss it with you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-03   10:07:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#21) (Edited)

Look Pete. When you get on these threads and pretend to be outraged at what you pushed for. It doesn't hold water.

So if you don't want me starting shit with you. Stay off this topic. You're a hypocrite on it. Your attitude towards perverts disgusts me Pete. You want to equate sex offender perverts with normal people. It's offensive.

I don't care to hear your thoughts on what I just said either.

Just go to some other thread. I made this site to be fun not to be put in a bad mood by you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-03   10:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#22) (Edited)

Comment removed to many lies

sneakypete  posted on  2016-01-03   15:22:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

Have noticed much less activity here on these boards lately. I have spent a lot of time at Sportshoopla, they have a very active political board there.

Being a Seahawks fan is how I found the place. The politics board may have a thousand posts a day.

Gatlins and misterwhite and Roscoe have won. There is no place for Liberty at any FR spinoff site.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2016-01-03   16:36:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dead Culture Watch (#24)

Gatlins and misterwhite and Roscoe have won.

It was easy. All you have are feelz.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-03   18:38:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Roscoe (#26)

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2016-01-03   20:59:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dead Culture Watch, Roscoe (#29)

You wouldn't last there. They have standards. Statists who pose as conservatives would be booted fairly quickly.

I went to glance through it and found it was about like LF overall, not much better or worse.

Lots of personal chitchat nothing-news or non-news threads (Please pray for my 97yo mother, she's just too young to die). Et cetera.

If anything, there are far more raving statists there than here at LF. I saw plenty demanding that the feds should use drones to Hellfire the Bundy brothers. For no good reason really. It's not like they pose any threat to anyone other than the threat of a bad example.

It looks to me like SH started their political section to keep politics off their sports threads. And it keeps their posters from running off to some other political forum when they do want to discuss politics due to some hot-button current issue.

So I don't get the hoopla over political threads at Sportshoop.la.

Beyond that, it is another very poor forum software if you actually want to chat on topics or find old topics in a given subject area. Admittedly, LF's article categories are so ridiculous that it is much harder to find anything here than it should be but it is still better than Sportshoopla fundamentally. Lots of people have tried to create political forums with these BBCode-style generic forums but they never really work or last. Only a handful of forum software like TOS or Pinguinite (LF's forum software) have ever managed to do an adequate job for political chat sites. If Sportshoopla did not have sports as its main draw and tried to make a go with just politics, it wouldn't last a year and would lose 90% of its readers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   1:35:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative, Dead Culture Watch (#31)

I went to glance through it and found it was about like LF overall, not much better or worse.

Oh, well. Poor Dead Culture Watch will just have to keep waiting for a handsome prince to come rescue him from the horrible mansplaining on LF.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   1:45:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Roscoe, Dead Culture Watch (#32)

Oh, well. Poor Dead Culture Watch will just have to keep waiting for a handsome prince to come rescue him from the horrible mansplaining on LF.

You neglected to consider that you might be a real asshole who takes pride in his assholery on anonymous chat sites.

Not that I'm any saint in this regard. And DCW has had his moments as well.

In some ways, a sports chat site lets everyone choose sides and have their little group hates in a way that is less toxic. In sports, eventually your teams play and one wins or loses for the season. In politics, things can just boil along for years, decades even. So political chat sites are probably more toxic for that reason.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   1:58:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TooConservative (#34)

DCW has had his moments as well.

He's a special snowflake.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:13:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Roscoe, Dead Culture Watch (#35)

BTW, you may have noticed that LF's posters have mansplained the issues so well that there isn't a single woman who posts here, not counting that teen girl who posted a little in the last month (assuming she's not actually a middle-aged FBI agent trolling for pedophiles).

There has to be some problem with the moderation when the majority of human race won't even post at all.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   2:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TooConservative (#36)

LF's posters have mansplained the issues so well

Only a few. Most are all feelz.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:19:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#38)

Only a few. Most are all feelz.

There is the matter of tone and courtesy as well.

With your wife or girlfriend or mom, do you start a discussion of a difference of opinion with, "Listen up, you moron, this is how it is!"? Of course not.

Even if you're 100% right on an issue, taking an arrogant or condescending tone with others guarantees you lose 100% of the time. Not on the merits but on the "feelz". And that is just human nature.

I guess since I brought up LF moderation in comparison to SH, I should flag AKA so we're not talking behind his back.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   2:31:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TooConservative (#39)

Facts, not tones, are what upsets them.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   2:45:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Roscoe (#40)

I think the opposite is true.

But you have the posting style of a medium Canary. I'm only guilty of having a posting style that sometimes sounds like I'm talking down to people and being a little arrogant. Anyway, that is my own main criticism of my own posts if I look back at them weeks or months later. That, and I'm way too wordy, not a terse writer.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   3:04:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TooConservative (#41)

I think the opposite is true.

I can't imagine how.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   3:13:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Roscoe (#42)

I'm saying that even if all the facts support your position, you can offend them so much in how you argue your case that they will never admit you're right and will be reactionary, taking up a hardened opposite position they would never have adopted if you hadn't decided to mansplain things to them.

Lawyers know this. No matter the facts, they are careful not to make a jury hate them because they will lose a lot of cases simply because the jury hates their guts.

I'm not sure why I'm explaining this because Canaries never grasp it. Which is why they are called Canary types.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   3:27:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative (#43)

I'm not sure why I'm explaining this because Canaries never grasp it.

How ironic. You have repeatedly directed pejorative terminology and ad hominem attacks at me in the thread, yet I have not responded in kind.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   10:14:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#44)

How ironic. You have repeatedly directed pejorative terminology and ad hominem attacks at me in the thread, yet I have not responded in kind.

Yeah but I can't help notice that you seem awfully familiar with what a Canary is, despite having only been a member here since October of 2015. You must be a very fast reader.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-04   11:21:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TooConservative (#45)

you seem awfully familiar with what a Canary is

A pejorative term you use to make personal attacks when you can't address the facts. Is that about right?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-04   11:41:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Roscoe (#46) (Edited)

Goldi from LP said Yukon ... was the chirping - warning bird --- in the mine !

Because of these subterranean morlok - druid - toxic levels here in the ... LF opium den --- you have to your own oxygen tanks to post here !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-04   13:48:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: BorisY (#54)

Goldi from LP said Yukon ... was the chirping - warning bird --- in the mine !

Thanks. I almost forgot where the canary reference came from.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-01-04   13:54:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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