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Title: Justin Amash on Tamir Rice Outcome: Cops Don’t Deserve Extra Leniency
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2015/12/29/ ... ash-on-tamir-rice-outcome-cops
Published: Dec 31, 2015
Author: Robby Soave
Post Date: 2015-12-31 05:36:53 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 3569
Comments: 14

Why do the police get away with crimes ordinary citizens would go to jail for?

Tamir Rice

Tamir Rice

The grand jury’s decision not to charge either of the two police officers who killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice in a Cleveland park last year is as frustrating as it was predetermined.

Of course authorities and adjudicators thought the killing was justified—they are instructed to ignore the victim’s perspective, and only consider whether inaction could have conceivably put the officers’ lives at risk, in the imaginations of the officers. That’s the legal standard, so it’s hardly a surprise it was obeyed.

But not everyone is thrilled with a standard that tilts the scales of justice so decisively in the cops’ favor nearly every single time. Libertarian-leaning Republican Rep. Justin Amash had this to say about the Tamir Rice decision on Twitter:

Policing cannot be both risk-free and effective. Officers must be patient, put own lives at risk to responsibly manage dangerous situations.

Police should not be given more leniency when it comes to self-defense than any other person.

I also raised on Twitter yesterday. In a sane world, one might expect the cops to receive less leniency than ordinary citizens in cases where they kill a harmless, unarmed boy. After all, they are trained to successfully navigate tense situations: it’s literally their job to go to great lengths to keep people alive. We might even expect the police—again, the people we pay to take on some degree of risk—to use a different calculus than the average person when weighing threats to their own lives against threats to others.

As Jamelle Bouie writes at Slate:

Part of policing is risk. Not just the inevitable risk of the unknown, but voluntary risk. We ask police to “serve and protect” the broad public, which—at times—means accepting risk when necessary to defuse dangerous situations and protect lives, innocent or otherwise. It’s why we give them weapons and the authority to use them; why we compensate them with decent salaries and generous pensions; why we hold them in high esteem and why we give them wide berth in procedure and practice.

What we see with Tamir Rice—and what we’ve seen in shootings across the country—is what happens when the officer’s safety supercedes the obligation to accept risk. If “going home” is what matters—and risk is unacceptable—then the instant use of lethal force makes sense. It’s the only thing that guarantees complete safety from harm.

It’s also antithetical to the call to “serve and protect.” But it’s the new norm.

Indeed. And as long as the norm prevails, there will be more Tamir Rices—and more grieving mothers deprived of justice. The lives of the agents of the state matter infinitely more than the lives of regular people. (1 image)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Part of policing is risk. Not just the inevitable risk of the unknown, but voluntary risk. We ask police to “serve and protect” the broad public, which—at times—means accepting risk when necessary to defuse dangerous situations and protect lives, innocent or otherwise. It’s why we give them weapons and the authority to use them; why we compensate them with decent salaries and generous pensions; why we hold them in high esteem and why we give them wide berth in procedure and practice.

I tend to agree with this,but in THIS case,didn't the kid have a fake gun on him that he pointed at the police?

When you go around pointing what looks like guns at police or anyone else,you pretty much have to expect somebody is going to shoot you.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-31   8:20:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

I tend to agree with this,but in THIS case,didn't the kid have a fake gun on him that he pointed at the police?

He didn't get a chance to point the toy gun at the cops - they opened fire within seconds of arriving at the scene.

Deckard  posted on  2015-12-31   8:22:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2)

"He didn't get a chance to point the toy gun at the cops"

He modified the gun by removing the DayGlo orange tip identifying it as a toy.

Why did he do that Deckard? Why did his grieving parents allow him to do that Deckard? Why was he running around the park pointing this gun at people Deckard, scaring them, resulting in the 911 call?

You're quick to point the finger at the cops while conveniently ignoring the actions of others.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-12-31   9:33:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3) (Edited)

"A photo released today by the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office shows what it says is a real gun next to the replica gun 12-year-old Tamir Rice had the day he was shot dead by a Cleveland, Ohio, police officer." --ABC News

Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-31   9:45:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Roscoe (#4)

And you have 2 seconds to decide which one is real. Or you die.

A Grand Jury (known to indict a ham sandwich) ruled the shooting justified. Time to move on.

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