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Title: Why is the American republic fighting to impose tyranny at Ramadi?
Source: Non Invervention
URL Source: http://non-intervention.com/2002/wh ... g-to-impose-tyranny-at-ramadi/
Published: Dec 28, 2015
Author: Michael Scheuer
Post Date: 2015-12-28 16:30:48 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 2927
Comments: 21

“The commonest error in politics is sticking to the carcasses of dead policies. When a mast falls overboard, you do not try to save a rope here and a spar there in memory of their former utility. You cut away the hamper altogether. It should be the same with policy, but it is not so. We cling to the shred of an old policy after it has been torn to pieces, and to the shadow of the shred after the rag itself has been torn away.” Lord Salisbury, 1877

If or when Ramadi is recaptured from the Islamic State (IS) by the Iraqi regime’s Shia-dominated military forces, which are being supported by U.S. air power, the United States will have scored another telling and self- inflicted defeat, one delivered by its national government’s interventionist foreign policy.

–If Ramadi is taken, most Islamic State forces and ordnance will have been removed from the city. Most of the fighters and weapons belonging to Ramadi’s IS garrison will survive to fight another day. As always, the Islamist insurgents are not going to fight for Ramadi or any other city to the last man and last bullet. They will leave, mend their wounded, bring in reinforcements, and attack in another place where the world can watch the entire Ramadi cycle repeat itself.

–If Ramadi falls, the United States will have facilitated the return of a Sunni city to the U.S.-EU fathered and supported Shia tyranny in Baghdad and its Iranian masters. That regime will pick up in Ramadi where it left off; that is, slaughtering Sunnis in the city and its environs. The reliability of media reporting about Ramadi and its population is uneven, but reading it leaves the impression that Ramadi’s Sunnis dislike and fear IS, but prefer its rule to the return of the murderous Shia regime. (NB: This impression is common when reading about most Sunni areas held by IS.)

–In a strategic sense, the U.S.-manufactured re-Shiafication of Ramadi will provide the Sunni world with more irrefutable proof that the United States has definitely and aggressively taken the Shia side in the evolving regional Shia-Sunni war. The upshot will be (a) more would-be mujahedin joining IS, al-Qaeda, and other Islamist groups from places like Syria, Iraq, Libya, Africa, Somalia, Nigeria, Yemen, Pakistan, India, Egypt, the EU, the U.S., and Canada; (b) another possible reason for IS and al-Qaeda to discuss ending their confrontation, at least until Western intervention is defeated; and (c) a bit of additional glue the Saudis can use in building their so called “Anti-IS Sunni Coalition”, which is actually the strongest signal so far that Riyadh is preparing to fight not IS and al-Qaeda, but the anti-Shia war that IS and its most reliable allies — the Obama, Cameron, Hollande, and Putin administrations — have triggered.

There is no need for the United States to be in the midst of the mess in the Syria-Iraq theater, let alone to be fighting to restore a Shia tyranny. All of the parties in the Ramadi fight have long been defined by the U.S. bipartisan governing elite as America’s enemies, and they are now fighting and murdering each other with an intensifying and lethal sort of gay abandon. All America needs to do is stand clear, not take sides, and control its borders. But the Obama administration — like its Republican predecessor — is as dumb as stone about what is going on in Iraq, Syria, and the Islamic world as a whole. If it was not ignorant, it would not be assisting the Iraqi Shias to retake the Sunni city of Ramadi — which, if accomplished, will not improve U.S. security a jot — and thereby make the United States appear culpable for the bloody retribution the Shia will exact from the city’s Sunni community.

Unnecessary foreign military interventionism historically has been one of the gravedigger’s main tools for burying republics. Obama, G.W. Bush, and the Clintons have all been unable or unwilling to stop digging. Each champions the putrefying “dead carcass” of U.S. military/political/cultural intervention overseas, and, by doing so, they together have put the republic near to death’s door, suffering unending and always losing wars abroad, as well as bankruptcy and increasing national-government authoritarianism at home.

Given Lord Salisbury’s advice, it seems clear that it is long past time for Americans to refuse to “cling to the shred of an old [interventionist] policy after it has been torn to pieces,” and to likewise refuse to support any politician that advocates the continuation of the “shadow of the shred” of that policy as a panacea for the troubles of the United States in the Islamic world. The only policies that will even begin to solve those problems are neutrality and non-intervention.


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Seems like the only thing to be rooting for is the body count.

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#1. To: nativist nationalist, All (#0)

The only policies that will even begin to solve those problems are neutrality and non-intervention.

Sounds like a winning strategy to fight cancer to me. Keep up the good work.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-12-28   17:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

keep your friends close and your enemies even closer

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-28   18:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

There is no need for the United States to be in the midst of the mess in the Syria-Iraq theater, let alone to be fighting to restore a Shia tyranny.

Sure there is a "need." America sells military grade weapons to everyone, one way or another. The "good, bad or the ugly" somehow always seem to have US military grade weapons.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-12-28   21:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

In a strategic sense, the U.S.-manufactured re-Shiafication of Ramadi will provide the Sunni world with more irrefutable proof that the United States has definitely and aggressively taken the Shia side in the evolving regional Shia-Sunni war.

It would appear that is so . But why then the insistence that Assad has to go ?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-29   7:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tomder55 (#4)

But why then the insistence that Assad has to go

Well you have to maintain some sort of smoke screen regarding former policies. The big O obviously did a deal with Iran which included allowing them greater influence and in any case the US needs an ally against the Saudi aggression and who better than their arch enemies. The US is very good at playing the double game, they really do need to balance the Russian influence in the region.

maybe dropping the policy on Assad is a bridge too far, right now, they have settled for not attacking him directly and once Daesh is put in its place there will be much talk of elections and transitional government. One thing that comes out of this is Israel will have one less enemy for a while, but Hezbollah will have to be watched closely

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-29   8:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Why is the American republic fighting to impose tyranny at Ramadi?

There is no such thing, no such place.

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

I am not just and American, I am a citizen of the state of Maine first and then of the United States of America.

All men women and children living on the continent of the Americas are Americans, but only we who live in the 50 States that make up the United States of America are US Citizens.

I am a Christian man, a Christian Citizen of The United States, I resent being simply called an American.

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Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-29   10:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: paraclete (#5)

The big O obviously did a deal with Iran which included allowing them greater influence and in any case the US needs an ally against the Saudi aggression and who better than their arch enemies

That has been obvious for some time . I told you a while ago I expect the emperor to make a trip to Tehran next year to solidify the annointing of the Shia califate . But there is all that Arab Spring ; supporting the temporary Ikhwan takeover of Egypt ,toppling Libya ,and his speeches in Cairo and Ankara stirring up the Sunni mobs. Maybe he wants an American tie to both side of the struggle for a califate . Let's face it . He wants to be aligned with the most radical Islamists regardless of their cult .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-29   10:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#7)

He wants to be aligned with the most radical Islamists regardless of their cult .

Radical islamists only have one cult; DEATH. What O wants is to be seen as the voice of peace, he really is trying to earn that peace prize by avoiding war. I wonder what would happen if they gave Putin a peace prize

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-29   16:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BobCeleste (#6)

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

What?!

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-29   16:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A Pole (#9)

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

What?!

Can you name another?

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-29   16:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BobCeleste (#10)

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

What?!

Can you name another?

One can name several.

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-29   16:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BobCeleste (#6)

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

In name only.

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Deckard  posted on  2015-12-29   17:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A Pole (#9)

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

What does that even mean?

That it has a constitution? many nations have that, even failed states

That it is a Republic, there are many of those, even failed states

That it is a democracy, it doesn't say that

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-29   21:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A Pole (#11)

The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

What?!

Can you name another?

One can name several.

OK, name several, better yet name one other country in the world, other than the United States of America that has a written Constitution that declares the country to be a Republic.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-30   8:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#12)

In name only.

True, at this time, our g0vt is an oligarchy, but, if and when men ever rise up and are willing to fight, kill and if needs be die to restore the Republic they will have those written documents to make that revolution/civil war, legal.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-30   8:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BobCeleste (#14)

I am not going to be drawn in a silly exchange.

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-30   8:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A Pole (#16)

Then simply admit that you are wrong. Or produce one other Constitution guaranteeing a Republic.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-30   15:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BobCeleste (#17)

Then simply admit that you are wrong. Or produce one other Constitution guaranteeing a Republic.

I refuse to prove that Moon is not made out of cheese.

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-30   17:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A Pole (#18)

Me: The United states of America is the only Constitutional Republic on earth.

you: What?!

Me: Can you name another?

you: One can name several.

Now you say "I refuse to prove that Moon is not made out of cheese. "

for once be a man and simply admit your are wrong.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-31   8:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BobCeleste (#19)

Now you say "I refuse to prove that Moon is not made out of cheese. "for once be a man and simply admit your are wrong.

OK, Moon is made of cheese. Happy?

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-31   11:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A Pole (#20)

bye bozo

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-12-31   11:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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