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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In politics and politicians See other politics and politicians Articles Title: Donald Trump changes tune on wages after Bernie Sanders broadside Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/ ... sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1015577712 Published: Dec 28, 2015 Author: Colin Campbell Post Date: 2015-12-28 10:59:24 by sneakypete Keywords: None Views: 26325 Comments: 81 After previously saying wages were "too high," Trump instead stressed Sunday and again Monday that they were actually "too low." "Wages in are country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders. We need smart and strong leadership now!" Trump tweeted Monday morning. The apparent shift came after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), a Democratic presidential candidate, said in a Sunday interview that his message would resonate among Trump's working-class supporters. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Ya gotta admire the stongly-held beliefs and sincerity of The Donald,don't you? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 75. #1. To: AKA Stone, Roscoe, All, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0) Who can resist a real leader that knows what he is doing,and stands by his decisions? BTW,does agreeing with Bernie make your boy Donald a commie,AKA Stone? Gee,I wonder if this means he is sending the foreigners he imported into this country because they work cheaper than Americans back home,and replacing them with American workers? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: sneakypete (#1) So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:08:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Roscoe (#2) So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr? What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Am I the one running for president and saying American wages are too high and need to be lowered to compete with the rest of the world for a few months,and then does a 180 degree turn when challenged and say they are too low? Am I the guy talking about keeping foreigners out of the US,while importing them to work for my businesses because they work cheaper than Americans? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:11:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: sneakypete (#3) What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question? Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Roscoe (#4) What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question? I'm not,Bubba. I'm just tired of dealing with morons who want to blame ME for some lack of character in the candidate of their choice. *I* am not the one running for president. *I* am not the public figure posing as an expert on finance. *I* am not the one you need to be asking these questions. The one you should be asking is named Trump. Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky? It shouldn't even exist,but WTF do you care about what *I* think about minimum wages? Are you considering casting a write in ballot for me for President? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: sneakypete (#5) I hope you didn't trip and get a boo boo running away from the question. Here's some more you won't dare answer: Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment? Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:57:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: Roscoe (#9) " Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living? " I think it is noteworthy that prior to adopting "Free Trade", there were plenty of jobs in the U.S.A., everyone had a job that wanted one, and everyone had a good standard of living. The only jobs then that would be considered "minimum wage" were jobs taken by high school kids, like working in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. In general, things were much better then. Free Trade sucks. Stoner  posted on  2015-12-29   10:31:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #70. To: Stoner (#68) Free Trade sucks. Amen. Living beyond your means was once frowned upon, today it is celebrated as good economics. nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-12-29   14:42:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #72. To: nativist nationalist (#70) Living beyond your means was once frowned upon, today it is celebrated as good economics. Good economics for bankers and manufacturers,but not so much for consumers. If you tell people today the simple truth that "How much money you make is not as important as how much money it takes for you to live." you mostly get blank stares and "Huh"? I turned down a offer of $22,000 cash for one of the cars sitting in my shop that I don't even drive because the engine and transmission are out of it now,and everybody that knows about it has told me I am crazy when I tell them "I like the car and I don't need the money,so why WOULD I want to sell it?" They all say some version of "To get the money to buy something else.",and I get more blank looks when I tell them I don't really feel the need to buy something else,so why bother selling it? I tell them "If I did sell it,then I wouldn't have a 32 Ford coupe,and would have to turn around and pay more money to buy another one." Nobody seems to understand being satisfied with what you already have. Then again,most of them have probably never been homeless and had to sell blood to get the money to eat,either. That's the sort of thing that gives you an appreciation for the basics in life,and an understanding of the words "essential" and "enough". Not to mention the meaning of the word "extra". Those people will never be happy in life because there will always be somebody that has something newer,nicer,and more expensive than anything they have. It sure would have been nice to have been this comfortable when I was in my 20's and 30's,though. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-29   15:54:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #75. To: sneakypete (#72) I turned down a offer of $22,000 cash for one of the cars sitting in my shop that I don't even drive because the engine and transmission are out of it now,and everybody that knows about it has told me I am crazy when I tell them "I like the car and I don't need the money,so why WOULD I want to sell it?" They all say some version of "To get the money to buy something else.",and I get more blank looks when I tell them I don't really feel the need to buy something else,so why bother selling it? I tell them "If I did sell it,then I wouldn't have a 32 Ford coupe, and would have to turn around and pay more money to buy another one." Figure the 32 Ford coupe is an appreciating asset in the long run, and your labor is adding value to it. Most of the things you buy once you sold it would depreciate in value, so you'd be trading away an appreciating asset for one that depreciates. nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-12-29   16:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 75. #80. To: nativist nationalist (#75) Figure the 32 Ford coupe is an appreciating asset in the long run, and your labor is adding value to it. And in the end,the reality is money is only money. It has no loyalty and it's only useful for buying things. My 32 coupe is for all practical purposes not worth anything to me because it will probably never get sold until it hits my estate sale. Same as my 34 Ford pu,51 Ford coupe,38 Ford tudor,33 Plymouth coupe,and 42 Dodge coupe. I bought them because I like them and I like working on them and I like driving them. Working on them gives me an excuse to buy tools,and repairing/modifying them gives me something to do with my hands. Win/win for me. I don't regret a dime I spent on any of them,and don't give a damn if I never get a dime back. I leave my 2015 truck in the driveway most days and currently drive my 51 Ford around. When I get tired of driving that one around,I'll put license tags on my 31 Plymouth coupe and drive it around,or maybe drive my 37 Dodge or 39 IHC pu around. My new truck is for driving when it's raining or the weather is bad. It's a tool,nothing more. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-29 17:06:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 75. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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