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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In politics and politicians See other politics and politicians Articles Title: Donald Trump changes tune on wages after Bernie Sanders broadside Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/ ... sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1015577712 Published: Dec 28, 2015 Author: Colin Campbell Post Date: 2015-12-28 10:59:24 by sneakypete Keywords: None Views: 26329 Comments: 81 After previously saying wages were "too high," Trump instead stressed Sunday and again Monday that they were actually "too low." "Wages in are country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders. We need smart and strong leadership now!" Trump tweeted Monday morning. The apparent shift came after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), a Democratic presidential candidate, said in a Sunday interview that his message would resonate among Trump's working-class supporters. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Ya gotta admire the stongly-held beliefs and sincerity of The Donald,don't you? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 74. #1. To: AKA Stone, Roscoe, All, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0) Who can resist a real leader that knows what he is doing,and stands by his decisions? BTW,does agreeing with Bernie make your boy Donald a commie,AKA Stone? Gee,I wonder if this means he is sending the foreigners he imported into this country because they work cheaper than Americans back home,and replacing them with American workers? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: sneakypete (#1) So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:08:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Roscoe (#2) So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr? What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Am I the one running for president and saying American wages are too high and need to be lowered to compete with the rest of the world for a few months,and then does a 180 degree turn when challenged and say they are too low? Am I the guy talking about keeping foreigners out of the US,while importing them to work for my businesses because they work cheaper than Americans? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:11:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: sneakypete (#3) What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question? Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Roscoe (#4) What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question? I'm not,Bubba. I'm just tired of dealing with morons who want to blame ME for some lack of character in the candidate of their choice. *I* am not the one running for president. *I* am not the public figure posing as an expert on finance. *I* am not the one you need to be asking these questions. The one you should be asking is named Trump. Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky? It shouldn't even exist,but WTF do you care about what *I* think about minimum wages? Are you considering casting a write in ballot for me for President? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: sneakypete (#5) I hope you didn't trip and get a boo boo running away from the question. Here's some more you won't dare answer: Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment? Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:57:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: Roscoe (#9) " Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living? " I think it is noteworthy that prior to adopting "Free Trade", there were plenty of jobs in the U.S.A., everyone had a job that wanted one, and everyone had a good standard of living. The only jobs then that would be considered "minimum wage" were jobs taken by high school kids, like working in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. In general, things were much better then. Free Trade sucks. Stoner  posted on  2015-12-29   10:31:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: Stoner (#68) The only jobs then that would be considered "minimum wage" were jobs taken by high school kids, like working in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Exactly. Minimum wage was never intended to be a livable income for an adult. It was for "starter jobs" for kids so they could get some work experience out in the real world before they applied for "real" jobs. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-29   14:36:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: sneakypete (#69) " Exactly. Minimum wage was never intended to be a livable income for an adult. It was for "starter jobs" for kids so they could get some work experience out in the real world before they applied for "real" jobs. " Yep. The problem is that back in those days, PFT (pre free trade) we still had all of our industry ( and associated good paying "real" jobs ). So when kids got out of school, they could go still find good jobs, or industries where they could work their way up. Today, the idiots have exported all of our industries, and the associated good paying jobs, so now there are few opportunities. And surprise, surprise, the only thing left is minimum wage jobs. Granted, to be sure, there are a few jobs that have not been exported. Like a refinery a couple counties from me. But, like everywhere else, they have downsized, and openings are very rare. I guess all the BS that if we adopted free trade, we could all have cheap junk, and we would all become computer wizards, rocket scientists, and brain surgeons, and would all live in heavenly bliss, was just a pile of BS. FREE TRADE SUCKS, and all those that promoted it are ASSHOLES !! Stoner  posted on  2015-12-29   15:40:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #73. To: Stoner (#71) I guess all the BS that if we adopted free trade, we could all have cheap junk That much is true,but why do people want cheap junk? I have never understood that concept. we would all become computer wizards, rocket scientists, and brain surgeons, and would all live in heavenly bliss, was just a pile of BS. Unless your kid is brilliant and driven to work in one of those fields,the wise thing to do is send them to a 2 to 4 year school to learn skilled trades like plumbing,heating and air conditioning,carpentry,electrician,etc,etc,etc. I know people personally in some of these trades that are pulling in more than 150 grand a year,and working by themselves doing the little jobs the big companies won't take on. Most "youts" of today have no interest in doing those jobs because of the blue collar status,and because they think they are too smart to do physical work. Hell,the typical parts replacer (I hesitate to call them mechanics)at a new car dealership is pulling in 75 to 100 grand a year working 40 hours a week and doesn't even really have to know anything anymore other than how to take stuff apart and install new parts. The cars and trucks of today hook into master computers that tell you what's wrong with the car,the parts numbers you need to fix it,and even what steps to take to fix it. The only drawback there is the competition for some of these jobs is pretty stiff in certain areas,but not always. The son of a friend of mine just graduated from a 2 year mechanics course in Ca,and was hired right out of school to work at a BMW dealership. Right now he is going to a BMW school in New Jersey to learn their cars and their systems,and then they will place him in a dealership. Ever seen a mechanic from a BMW dealership standing in line for Food Stamps? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-29   16:04:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #74. To: sneakypete (#73) When I was young and dumb and drove a Porsche, it cost $200 to look under the hood - and this was 30 years ago. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-12-29   16:25:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 74. #78. To: Fred Mertz (#74) When I was young and dumb and drove a Porsche, it cost $200 to look under the hood - and this was 30 years ago. I don't know how much it is now,but I'd be willing to bet it ain't cheaper. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-29 16:56:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 74. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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