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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In politics and politicians See other politics and politicians Articles Title: Donald Trump changes tune on wages after Bernie Sanders broadside Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/ ... sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1015577712 Published: Dec 28, 2015 Author: Colin Campbell Post Date: 2015-12-28 10:59:24 by sneakypete Keywords: None Views: 26387 Comments: 81 After previously saying wages were "too high," Trump instead stressed Sunday and again Monday that they were actually "too low." "Wages in are country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders. We need smart and strong leadership now!" Trump tweeted Monday morning. The apparent shift came after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), a Democratic presidential candidate, said in a Sunday interview that his message would resonate among Trump's working-class supporters. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Ya gotta admire the stongly-held beliefs and sincerity of The Donald,don't you? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 62. #1. To: AKA Stone, Roscoe, All, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0) Who can resist a real leader that knows what he is doing,and stands by his decisions? BTW,does agreeing with Bernie make your boy Donald a commie,AKA Stone? Gee,I wonder if this means he is sending the foreigners he imported into this country because they work cheaper than Americans back home,and replacing them with American workers? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: sneakypete (#1) So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:08:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Roscoe (#2) So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr? What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Am I the one running for president and saying American wages are too high and need to be lowered to compete with the rest of the world for a few months,and then does a 180 degree turn when challenged and say they are too low? Am I the guy talking about keeping foreigners out of the US,while importing them to work for my businesses because they work cheaper than Americans? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:11:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: sneakypete (#3) What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question? Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Roscoe (#4) What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba? Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question? I'm not,Bubba. I'm just tired of dealing with morons who want to blame ME for some lack of character in the candidate of their choice. *I* am not the one running for president. *I* am not the public figure posing as an expert on finance. *I* am not the one you need to be asking these questions. The one you should be asking is named Trump. Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky? It shouldn't even exist,but WTF do you care about what *I* think about minimum wages? Are you considering casting a write in ballot for me for President? sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   11:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: sneakypete (#5) I hope you didn't trip and get a boo boo running away from the question. Here's some more you won't dare answer: Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment? Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living? Roscoe  posted on  2015-12-28   11:57:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Roscoe (#9) Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment? Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living? The answer to both questions is yes. The answer is to either end free trade, or to establish a minimum wage that will allow a man and a woman working full time at it to raise a family under proper conditions, to establish national health insurance and a more solid national retirement plan, paid out of taxes. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-12-28   13:20:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Vicomte13 (#12) The answer is to either end free trade, or to establish a minimum wage that will allow a man and a woman working full time at it to raise a family under proper conditions, to establish national health insurance and a more solid national retirement plan, paid out of taxes. Slashing taxes would allow a minimum wage earner to raise a family. In addition to increases his/her income, it would mean lower prices of food and necessities they buy. Of course, "slashing" would be by the libertarian definition of the term, meaning a 30-50% cut in federal revenue, which would be highly "un-American" according to R's and D's because federal policies are more important than main street America. Pinguinite  posted on  2015-12-28   15:11:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Pinguinite (#16) Slashing taxes would allow a minimum wage earner to raise a family. Not really. People working minimum wage jobs don't earn enough to pay taxes. In fact,they usually get a Earned Income Tax Credit check back from the government each year if they are married or have children. I don't think single males or single females without children qualify for it,though. Of course, "slashing" would be by the libertarian definition of the term, meaning a 30-50% cut in federal revenue, which would be highly "un-American" according to R's and D's because federal policies are more important than main street America. Neither the R's nor the D's want to cut taxes because they use the tax money to buy votes via government jobs,government contracts,welfare,food stamps,etc,etc,etc. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   17:34:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: sneakypete (#24) Not really. People working minimum wage jobs don't earn enough to pay taxes. While true, slashing overall federal taxation by 30-50% would mean the overall tax burden of everyone would be reduced, and that would mean businesses would not need to charge as much for the goods and services they sell, as the tax overhead for those businesses would be reduced. The lower costs of everything across the board would mean Joe Sixpack's paycheck would go farther, potentially making it feasible to raise a family. Likely not pushing him into middle class, but possibly something at least out of poverty. Essentially, the overall expense of the nation in funding the federal behemoth being reduced (i.e. removed the needless war tab) would mean more goods and services available for all domestically, and thus lower prices. That was the point of my second sentence in that post. Pinguinite  posted on  2015-12-28   18:49:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: Pinguinite (#48) Essentially, the overall expense of the nation in funding the federal behemoth being reduced (i.e. removed the needless war tab) would mean more goods and services available for all domestically, and thus lower prices. It could mean that IF people didn't decide to keep orices as they are so they can collect "extra profits". sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-28   23:23:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: sneakypete (#57) It could mean that IF people didn't decide to keep orices as they are so they can collect "extra profits". The theory of free market supply and demand says that would not be sustainable. Certainly businesses would not lower prices until forced to do so, but an increase of supply of goods & services should force them to. Obviously, in practice, free market principles don't always run their full course due to monopolies and government regulation, and the effect is never instantaneous, but cutting the needless (war) tax burden on the whole country by a double digit percentage would have to effect the economy for the better. Pinguinite  posted on  2015-12-28   23:52:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: Pinguinite (#60) All true. One unintended consequence is what happens to the companies supplying the goods and services related to the war effort,as well as all the smaller companies that are sub-contractors that supply parts and material to the larger companines. Not to mention all the workers that work in these companies. One undeniable fact is that a lot of people are going to be put out of work if we stop the war machine by actually winning a damn war instead of keeping them dragging on forever. Not to mention all the military members who would be put on the streets if the military were downsized. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Every action causes a reaction that has to be dealt with. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-29   6:46:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 62.         There are no replies to Comment # 62. End Trace Mode for Comment # 62. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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