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Title: Donald Trump changes tune on wages after Bernie Sanders broadside
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Published: Dec 28, 2015
Author: Colin Campbell
Post Date: 2015-12-28 10:59:24 by sneakypete
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Views: 24840
Comments: 81
After previously saying wages were "too high," Trump instead stressed Sunday and again Monday that they were actually "too low." "Wages in are country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders. We need smart and strong leadership now!" Trump tweeted Monday morning. The apparent shift came after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), a Democratic presidential candidate, said in a Sunday interview that his message would resonate among Trump's working-class supporters. Poster Comment: Ya gotta admire the stongly-held beliefs and sincerity of The Donald,don't you?
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#24. To: Pinguinite (#16)
Not really. People working minimum wage jobs don't earn enough to pay taxes. In fact,they usually get a Earned Income Tax Credit check back from the government each year if they are married or have children. I don't think single males or single females without children qualify for it,though. Of course, "slashing" would be by the libertarian definition of the term, meaning a 30-50% cut in federal revenue, which would be highly "un-American" according to R's and D's because federal policies are more important than main street America. Neither the R's nor the D's want to cut taxes because they use the tax money to buy votes via government jobs,government contracts,welfare,food stamps,etc,etc,etc. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
That would be anti christian. Does your cult own stock in a insurance company,or something? BTW,if it is wrong for the government to so something you consider to be "anti-Christian",is it also wrong for the government to do something Muslims consider to be "anti-Muslim"? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Like what you wear. It depends.
I don't plan on giving you anything. If I were actually running for president the only thing I would promise to give you would be the best and most ethical and honest government possible,and the right to live and manage your own life without government interference as long as you weren't a danger to anyone. I'm not running for president though,and nobody that is would run on a platform like that because they wouldn't get party backing. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Because you participated in a ponzi scheme. No,because I served in the United States Army in combat. Unlike Trump and his Trumpettes. If the tutu fits...... Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I'm not wearing anything right now. I bet that gets you excited,doesn't it? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I'm talking about social security.
I bet that gets you excited,doesn't it? Your lines you use on your sisters kids don't work here. In fact they are disgusting.
I'm talking about social security. Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for. Neither are people who became disabled and can no longer work. Where we went wrong was giving it to babies of foreigners because the baby obviously never paid into the system,and neither did their parents. Nor should the government (Dims) ever have been allowed to get away with stealing money from the SS Trust Fund to fund all sorts of government handout programs,and leave the system with a IOU for future generations not even born yet to pay off. BUT......,the blame does not lay on the shoulders of the people who are just taking what they are offered. It lays squarely on the shoulders of the politicians that stole that money to buy votes. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Yes they are. Your money is already spent. The money has to be borrowed ad paid back by future generations. But you don't care. You only care about yourself. Just becausae some sucker paid socxial security doesn't mean they are owed b u others in the future. People who think thaqt might say something stupid like BVernie is a conservative.
Nope. You're so weak. You took a too high and a too low position, just like Trump. Bwahahaha!
Neither are people who became disabled and can no longer work. How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for? I'm not saying we shouldn't help the truly disabled. I'm just saying what you said isn't true.
He be loving that inter-generational debt.
They must hate mirrors.
You are the one doing the selfish whining because someone is getting something you aren't getting. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Which comment was that. Can you quote it?
Say what? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I don't think or care about it. It has nothing to do with me or the contract I entered into (against my will) with the government. If you have issues with it,take it up with the politicians that are stealing and spending the money,not me. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Like Ayn Rand (two packs a day) when she went on welfare to pay for her lung cancer surgery.
That is just pointing out a FAXT. You said no on edisabled is taking any money. I just pointed out you are wrong. I even said that I wasn't saying we shouldn't help the truly disabled. Why did you leave that out? Because you are not an honest person. Yes I am calling you a liar.
Yes they are. Your money is already spent. The money has to be borrowed ad paid back by future generations. But you don't care. You only care about yourself. Just becausae some sucker paid socxial security doesn't mean they are owed b u others in the future. People who think thaqt might say something stupid like BVernie is a conservative. A K A Stone posted on 2015-12-28 17:54:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply You are the one doing the selfish whining because someone is getting something you aren't getting. Which comment was that. Can you quote it? There it is above. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Did the young working victims that are paying your welfare sign that "contract"?
I don't know much about her. Except that she is an atheist. So she is stupid in my view. I think we should help the truly disabled. I was just saying that if someone takes out more then they put in they are taking something.
But you don't care. You only care about yourself. Just becausae some sucker paid socxial security doesn't mean they are owed b u others in the future. People who think thaqt might say something stupid like BVernie is a conservative. A K A Stone posted on 2015-12-28 17:54:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply You are the one doing the selfish whining because someone is getting something you aren't getting. Which comment was that. Can you quote it? There it is above. Pointing out that you are facxtually incorrexct is not whining. Misrepresenting what I say is lying though.
While true, slashing overall federal taxation by 30-50% would mean the overall tax burden of everyone would be reduced, and that would mean businesses would not need to charge as much for the goods and services they sell, as the tax overhead for those businesses would be reduced. The lower costs of everything across the board would mean Joe Sixpack's paycheck would go farther, potentially making it feasible to raise a family. Likely not pushing him into middle class, but possibly something at least out of poverty. Essentially, the overall expense of the nation in funding the federal behemoth being reduced (i.e. removed the needless war tab) would mean more goods and services available for all domestically, and thus lower prices. That was the point of my second sentence in that post.
I don't plan on giving you anything. Well, that rules you out as a viable national candidate of We The People. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
He spins some of the tallest tales or some doozy spins of yarn. His opinions (not any ACTION PLANS) reflect how America take BULLSHIT and run to the nearest poll and supggest he is America's Man of the Year by the Gallop Poll. Well, he is tied with the Pope, but I don't think that makes much of a difference.
In addition to increases his/her income, it would mean lower prices of food and necessities they buy. Of course, "slashing" would be by the libertarian definition of the term, meaning a 30-50% cut in federal revenue, which would be highly "un-American" according to R's and D's because federal policies are more important than main street America. +10; excellent post.
How many free government give-aways do you have in the mailbox each and every month? You have always been "shy" about your background, troll; Pete has never been shy about his career experiences. NGT - were you in the military? have you ever worked a day in your life without getting publick assistance?
That is just pointing out a FAXT. You said no on edisabled is taking any money. I just pointed out you are wrong. I even said that I wasn't saying we shouldn't help the truly disabled. Why did you leave that out? Because you are not an honest person. Yes I am calling you a liar. Why not try posting while sober some time? Your recent posts remind me of Babblefish English translations. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You really are a fucking idiot. THE CONTRACT PRE-EXISTS OUR BIRTHS,you fucking retard. I didn't sign up for it any more than someone born today signed up for it. It is a government dictate. What *I* did was play by the rules and pay into the SS INSURANCE SYSTEM every payday because the law required me to do so. After that it was the RESPONSIBILITY of the GOVERNMENT to uphold their part of the GOVERMENT MANDATED CONTRACT to uphold THEIR end of the bargain THEY established and pay out. Just like every other insurance program in existence. Yet you and the other jealous and selfish retards want to blame ME and the others WHO ARE GETTING WHAT THEY PAID FOR IN ADVANCE GETTING BACK OUR DUE. If you can't deal with that,may I suggest suicide? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Even you don't know what you are saying most of the time,so how am I lying. I'm not lying and you know I'm not lying. You just like to call me a liar because you know it pisses me off and you hope I just quit posting so you don't have to deal with my criticisms of your insanity,and you can still pretend you believe in free speech and didn't ban me. The prime difference between you and Jim Bob is that he was a Bush Bot and you are a Trumps Trumpette. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Posting while blind not drunk.
It could mean that IF people didn't decide to keep orices as they are so they can collect "extra profits". Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
We all have our burdens to bear. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Posting while blind not drunk. My apologies. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
It could mean that IF people didn't decide to keep orices as they are so they can collect "extra profits". The theory of free market supply and demand says that would not be sustainable. Certainly businesses would not lower prices until forced to do so, but an increase of supply of goods & services should force them to. Obviously, in practice, free market principles don't always run their full course due to monopolies and government regulation, and the effect is never instantaneous, but cutting the needless (war) tax burden on the whole country by a double digit percentage would have to effect the economy for the better.
Translation: The welfare stare pre-exists our birth. Gimme dat money!
All true. One unintended consequence is what happens to the companies supplying the goods and services related to the war effort,as well as all the smaller companies that are sub-contractors that supply parts and material to the larger companines. Not to mention all the workers that work in these companies. One undeniable fact is that a lot of people are going to be put out of work if we stop the war machine by actually winning a damn war instead of keeping them dragging on forever. Not to mention all the military members who would be put on the streets if the military were downsized. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Every action causes a reaction that has to be dealt with. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Translation: The welfare stare pre-exists our birth. Did you figure that out all by yourself,or did you have help? BTW,if this disturbs you this much,you DO understand that even though you have no choice but to contribute to the system,there is nothing requiring YOU to get paid from it,right? All you have to do is never apply to SS if you ever become disabled or turn 65. Stand on your high moral ground and refuse to take the money. Can we get a pledge from you today that you will stand on your convictions and ever receive even a dime of SS money or benefits? If not,STFU about it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
It didn't take much to expose your love of the welfare state. Or at least the trough you're feeding at.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestSlashing taxes would allow a minimum wage earner to raise a family.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#18)
"to establish national health insurance "
#26. To: sneakypete (#25)
BTW,if it is wrong for the government to so something you consider to be "anti-Christian",is it also wrong for the government to do something Muslims consider to be "anti-Muslim"?
#27. To: SOSO (#19)
I might. What will you give me that the DRats won't?
#28. To: A K A Stone (#23)
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Unlike parasites like you,I EARNED my money,mama's boy.
#29. To: A K A Stone (#26)
Like what you wear. It depends.
#30. To: sneakypete (#28)
No,because I served in the United States Army in combat.
#31. To: sneakypete (#29)
I'm not wearing anything right now.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)
No,because I served in the United States Army in combat.
#33. To: sneakypete (#32)
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for.
#34. To: sneakypete (#20)
you are a Trump supporter
Yes,and no. Yes if nothing else changes,"no" if we were to quit giving (selling under the table) sweetheart deals to the Chinese. Even if we did that our wages would still be too high because our welfare system pays too much to provide any incentive for the parasites who are retired in place on welfare to bother getting up out of bed before noon to go to a job. It was the Dims that created this nightmare,and they did it to buy votes. Overhauling the welfare system to remove the able-bodied,mandate birth control for females,and require drug testing for everybody on welfare as a condition for them to remain on welfare are just the first things that need to be done to overhaul the system. Yes,welfare IS tied to the high minimum wage becaue the more the government pays people to not work,the more private employers have to pay them to get them to come to work. Beyone that I am sure there are a number of trade issues that need to be resolved with the Chinese and everyone else to level the playing field a little.
#35. To: sneakypete (#32)
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for.
#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)
Your money is already spent. The money has to be borrowed ad paid back by future generations.
#37. To: misterwhite (#15)
Unless you're white on the right side:
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)
But you don't care. You only care about yourself.
#39. To: sneakypete (#38)
You are the one doing the selfish whining because someone is getting something you aren't getting.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#35)
How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for?
#41. To: Roscoe (#36)
He be loving that inter-generational debt.
#42. To: A K A Stone (#35)
How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for?
#43. To: sneakypete (#40)
How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for? Say what?
#44. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for.
#45. To: sneakypete (#41)
It has nothing to do with me or the contract I entered into
#46. To: Roscoe (#42)
Like Ayn Rand (two packs a day) when she went on welfare to pay for her lung cancer surgery.
#47. To: sneakypete (#44)
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for. Yes they are. Your money is already spent. The money has to be borrowed ad paid back by future generations.
#48. To: sneakypete (#24)
Not really. People working minimum wage jobs don't earn enough to pay taxes.
#49. To: sneakypete (#27)
I might. What will you give me that the DRats won't?
#50. To: sneakypete (#0)
Ya gotta admire the stongly-held beliefs and sincerity of The Donald,don't you?
#51. To: Pinguinite (#16)
Slashing taxes would allow a minimum wage earner to raise a family.
#52. To: no gnu taxes, Roscoe, sneakypete (#10)
sneaky doesn't care. He has his Gubmint $$$$BUCKS$$$ conveniently deposited into his bank account each month complete with adjusted cost of living increases.
#53. To: A K A Stone (#43)
How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for? Say what?
#54. To: Roscoe (#45)
Did the young working victims that are paying your welfare sign that "contract"?
#55. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Misrepresenting what I say is lying though.
#56. To: sneakypete (#53)
Why not try posting while sober some time? Your recent posts remind me of Babblefish English translations.
#57. To: Pinguinite (#48)
Essentially, the overall expense of the nation in funding the federal behemoth being reduced (i.e. removed the needless war tab) would mean more goods and services available for all domestically, and thus lower prices.
#58. To: SOSO (#49)
Well, that rules you out as a viable national candidate of We The People.
#59. To: A K A Stone (#56)
Why not try posting while sober some time? Your recent posts remind me of Babblefish English translations.
#60. To: sneakypete (#57)
#61. To: sneakypete (#54)
THE CONTRACT PRE-EXISTS OUR BIRTHS
#62. To: Pinguinite (#60)
#63. To: Roscoe (#61)
(Edited)
THE CONTRACT PRE-EXISTS OUR BIRTHS
#64. To: sneakypete (#63)
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