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War in Ukraine Turns on Russia what happened during total solar eclipse Israel Attacks Iran, Report Says - LIVE Breaking News Coverage Earth is Scorched with Heat Antiwar Activists Chant ‘Death to America’ at Event Featuring Chicago Alderman Vibe Shift A stream that makes the pleasant Rain sound. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In LEFT WING LOONS See other LEFT WING LOONS Articles Title: Part of a Real AP Headline: 'Emissions Need To Drop Below Zero' Source: News Busters URL Source: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb ... emissions-need-drop-below-zero Published: Dec 26, 2015 Author: Tom Blumer Post Date: 2015-12-26 14:53:39 by sneakypete Keywords: New Math, Imagine Views: 1212 Comments: 23 The detachment from reality of those who actually believe that the recent international climate agreement in Paris is anything but a dangerous and potentially expensive charade has become especially irritating. The goals identified in Paris are obviously unachievable, and have no direct tie-in to reducing "global warming." Convincing evidence of the link between carbon dioxide generation and allegedly rising global temperatures doesn't exist. In light of this reality, someone really needs to ask the AP's Karl Ritter how much Kool-Aid he had to drink before he informed readers on Thursday morning that the "PARIS CLIMATE GOALS MEAN EMISSIONS NEED TO DROP BELOW ZERO" — and then attempted to take that goal seriously. Ritter told readers about incredibly expensive, exotic, unproven and logistically burdensome methods world leaders might mandate to go about "removing more greenhouse gases from the atmosphere than humans put in it," involving getting rid of "about 50 billion tons (of "greenhouse gases) a year, mostly carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels for energy." They include "planting more forests, which absorb carbon dioxide naturally as they grow, and combining bioenergy with carbon capture technologies." Then as Ritter noted, "there's the issue of finding places to store the carbon dioxide once you've captured it." Yeah, we're supposed to bury huge volumes of CO2 under rocks. Although he did acknowledge in an early paragraph..... - See more at: www.newsbusters.org/blogs...zero#sthash.bS12j8Bs.dpuf Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Imagine...... A world with no pollution. A world where supermodels sexually molest gas station attendants. A world were "Hilly WHO?" is a common expression. A world where we are all equal in every respect,comrade. A world where everybody has everything they will ever need and a bunch of stuff they didn't even know they needed,and it doesn't cost anybody anything. A world were the northeast and north west of America isn't filled with idiots and crazy people. A world where you can ride your unicorn to work as a million dollar a year taste tester at the pie factory if you don't feel like flapping your arms and flying yourself. A world without envy,greed,hatred,or taxes. A world where corrupt politicians are caught,convicted,and hanged in public. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All, *Science and technology*, *Economic News*, *Politics and Politicians* (#0) A "follow the money" p[ng. I can guarantee you that every politician and lobbyist that pushes this nonsense had a hand in the environmental protection till. Somehow or another,they are all making money and gaining power from it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-26   15:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: sneakypete (#0) Imagine I would like to imagine a world with no dills or idiots in it, where the truth is instantly apparent to us and and cannot be hidden but then I'm dreaming. There is nothing wrong with planting trees but it is quicker not to cut them down in the first place paraclete  posted on  2015-12-26   15:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: sneakypete (#0) "PARIS CLIMATE GOALS MEAN EMISSIONS NEED TO DROP BELOW ZERO" I guess my skooling in the ghetto is a bit better than that of ivy league because we even learn you can't get below "ZERO" output! Justified  posted on  2015-12-26   15:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: sneakypete (#0) Part of a Real AP Headline: 'Emissions Need To Drop Below Zero' Media and politically fanned hysteria gone wild. rlk  posted on  2015-12-26   17:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Justified (#3) (Edited) we even learn Perhaps you failed logic when you did all that learning, what is being suggested here is that we do more than offset our emissions by using strategies that will take carbon from the atmosphere, an admirable, if unobtainable, goal while ever we use fossil fuels. So streaching our imagination, what can we use carbon for and how can we extract it from carbon diooxide and methane? we already know about carbon fibres perhaps we can have a future of objects made of carbon instead of iron and aluminium. Put your learning to use and be part of the solution not part of the problem by emitting carbon dioxide without producing anything paraclete  posted on  2015-12-26   17:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: paraclete (#5) Perhaps you failed logic when you did all that learning, what is being suggested here is that we do more than offset our emissions by using strategies that will take carbon from the atmosphere, an admirable, if unobtainable, goal while ever we use fossil fuels. Its all gobbledygook. I knew what they meant and what they really meant is for US(I would call us crazy but thats redundant) and any crazy western society to pay for cleaning the air everywhere. Which is Hilarius in my opinion. I do believe in clean air but even natural clean air is not clean air. Nature can get pretty nasty! All we can do is make products cleaner to run and produce. You can't make nature cleaner because its like pissing into a hurricane! BTW Mother nature will do the work if we let her. Environmental wako's think they are better than mother nature and she keeps reminding them they are nothing more than a single grain of sand in a very large desert! Justified  posted on  2015-12-26   17:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Justified (#3) I guess my skooling in the ghetto is a bit better than that of ivy league because we even learn you can't get below "ZERO" output! Me,too. Then again we weren't handicapped by having to learn "new math" in school. For people of our generation,the descriptor "new" in front of the word "math" is all the clue we need to know it is bullshit. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-26   18:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: paraclete (#5) Put your learning to use and be part of the solution not part of the problem by emitting carbon dioxide without producing anything You're right. I promise to start riding my unicorn to work after training him to eating carbon dioxide and farting pure oxygen. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-26   18:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: paraclete (#5) what is being suggested here is that we do more than offset our emissions by using strategies that will take carbon from the atmosphere, an admirable, What makes it "admirable"? ironalek  posted on  2015-12-26   22:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: (#0) If they want to trap and store greenhouse gases in a way that makes life for humans better, then they should be spending the money to line the coasts of Africa and Mexico with solar powered desalination plants, turning the oceans into freshwater, pumping the freshwater inland and turning the Sahara and the Sonora into vast green fields of food. Process the brine to get gold and rare earths, so that you don't have to mine it from the ground. Then you have solved the greenhouse gas problem, the solar energy problem, the water problem. the problem of mining tail pollution and world hunger all in one bite, and you've done it low-enough tech that Third World people can do it. Of course, this is unglamorous. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-12-27   8:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: sneakypete (#0) The simplest way to reduce CO2 is to cap the volcanoes. Or to eradicate animal life. A Pole  posted on  2015-12-27   9:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: A Pole (#11) The simplest way to reduce CO2 is to cap the volcanoes. Yeah,there's a good idea. After all,what could possibly happen in a negative sense if that were even possible?. The pressure will just go away,right? Or to eradicate animal life. Humans are also animals. You just might be on the track of what the animal rights and Gaia people see as a solution to all the worlds problems with that one. Of course you never hear of one of them wanting to go first to set an example. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-27   10:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: sneakypete (#12) Humans are also animals They breath out CO2. They are bad. A Pole  posted on  2015-12-27   10:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: A Pole (#13) They breath out CO2. They are bad. Not much question about that. Except for me,that is. I'm wonderful,and exhale pure oxygen. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-27   14:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: sneakypete (#14) Except for me,that is. I'm wonderful,and exhale pure oxygen. Is it is you Al Gore? A Pole  posted on  2015-12-27   15:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: A Pole (#15) Is it is you Al Gore? Has Goober been posing as me again? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-27   15:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Justified (#6) I knew what they meant and what they really meant is for US(I would call us crazy but thats redundant) and any crazy western society to pay for cleaning the air everywhere. What is Hillarius is that you think that you don't have responsibility for removing all the carbon that you put in the atmosphere, I don't think anyone is asking you to do more than that, however because you are a consumer society who has succeeded in passing your emissiosn to low cost countries you have an obligation to remove the carbon dioxide produced by those industries too. This is a no brianer but because you think you have brains you can't work it out paraclete  posted on  2015-12-27   18:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: paraclete (#17) What is Hillarius is that you think that you don't have responsibility for removing all the carbon that you put in the atmosphere, I feel no responsibility to remove carbon from the atmosphere. Why would I? however because you are a consumer society who has succeeded in passing your emissiosn to low cost countries you have an obligation to remove the carbon dioxide produced by those industries too. This is a no brianer but because you think you have brains you can't work it out Im sure China, Russia, Africa, ME and India are going to break their bank to do the same! For one Mother nature will remove it for us so why enslave our children with debt and some ridiculous laws that will harm them and allow other countries to do as they please? This is the reason why progressives should never ever be elected because they can not think pass the slogan! Im for cleaning up output. I want it to be fair and reasonable. To load western society down with the worlds problem is absolutely unacceptable! Justified  posted on  2015-12-27   19:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Justified (#18) To load western society down with the worlds problem is absolutely unacceptable! This is what you fail to understand. Basically up until now, western society has constituted most if not all of the excess carbon dioxide with developing nations, etc adding little so you cannot say it is the world's problem, it is like saying I'll create a pile of garbage and ask the undeveloped nations to clean it up. That is a slave owner mentality so obvious in US republicanism where once it was obvious in US democratism. For too long the nations of western society have created beggars out of the rest of the world and there is one among them who bears a very high percentage of the responsibility paraclete  posted on  2015-12-27   21:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Justified (#18) Im sure China, Russia, Africa, ME and India are going to break their bank to do the same! Actually Russia did sign up, but on a condition. They secured higher CO2 limit than they need. Now they make money by selling unused CO2 credits. ;) A Pole  posted on  2015-12-28   8:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: paraclete (#19) Basically up until now, western society has constituted most if not all of the excess carbon dioxide with developing nations, etc adding little so you cannot say it is the world's problem, it is like saying I'll create a pile of garbage and ask the undeveloped nations to clean it up. Hogwash. Mother nature produced more crap than all humans combined! Not by a little but a large number. What happens is localized pollution wakes people up to pollution. When people locally realize they are polluting to much they normally do what all sane people do and fix their error. BTW this has been the problem with progressive pushing man made global warming/cooling. Its about controlling the free world! Its about rich fat cats getting richer and more powerful because they could dupe easily led people with a few slogans! Mother nature scoffs at you puny humans! Justified  posted on  2015-12-28   10:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: A Pole (#20) Actually Russia did sign up, but on a condition. They secured higher CO2 limit than they need. Now they make money by selling unused CO2 credits. ;) Russia is led by a real president! He may not be perfect but at least he seeks the benefit of "his" people instead of some stupid progressive notion of one world hold hands at any cost crap! I dislike communist but I hate progressives! I respect Putin because he constantly sticks his finger in their eye and mocks them at their own game while standing up for his people! Justified  posted on  2015-12-28   10:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Justified (#21) (Edited) Mother nature produced more crap than all humans combined! True that most emissions come from nature however we have added to the process by our rapid consumption of carbon based fuels, so the system was relatively "in balance" before we disturbered the equilibrium. Noone suggests we should try to offset nature, merely modify our behaviour. We have to get a right perspective which is very lacking in most responses. Where we can use different technologies we should and progress these to avoid adding to the problem. we have successful reversed our impact on the ozone layer and we can modify our behaviour to avoid some impacts and we should do this without destroying the very economies which can do this. Reforestation of amazon etc would be a start but we have to recognise that we may already be beyond the tipping point and start to look at what the future responses may need to be paraclete  posted on  2015-12-28   18:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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