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Title: I Was An Idiot For Ever Being a 911 Truther
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URL Source: http://extruther.blogspot.com/
Published: Dec 26, 2015
Author: Mike Metzger
Post Date: 2015-12-26 09:16:55 by no gnu taxes
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My name is Mike Metzger, MikeyMetz for short, co-founder of 9/11 Truth UAlbany. I will not go on about my past accomplishments in the "truth" movement, but I invite you to check out the official site and our stuff on GoogleVideo if you're that interested in my background. I figure the best way to start this all out is by reposting a Facebook note that explains my "sudden change of heart" to anyone who was interested. Change of Heart? I might be thinking too much of myself, but I'm sure some of you are already jumping to conclusions over my apparent "change of heart." I can hear it already. "Mikey stopped smoking pot, and now he's ultra-conservative all of sudden." Or, how about "Mikey's fuckin girlfriend changed him overnight." If there's anyone who simplified my situation using one of these rationalizations immediately upon observing the obvious changes in my profile, I don't think it's too outrageous to claim that you're one who quickly jumps to conclusions. I don't mean to offend anyone (although, I know I am), but I think that statement is rather representative of the entire 9/11 Truth Movement. My "change of heart" didn't happen overnight. This has been a process that has been eating away at me for the past month and a half. I wanted to act strategically as far as "coming out" as a means to perhaps transition the 9/11 Truth group on campus to one that was less focused on strictly 9/11-related issues (aka more truthful ones). However, I was exposed to something that truly angered me deep down in the wee hours of this morning, which I'll get to later. I was so outraged that I can no longer keep my mouth shut. For whatever reasons at the time, I no-showed the 8/11 truth action our group was doing in Albany. Instead, I watched a movie called Screw Loose Change. I expected it to point out a few corrections in some minor details of the film. To my surprise, it contested just about every claim in the entire movie. I was a bit shocked. I was a true believer of all this controlled demolition nonsense for a time. I never cared about the physics or the claims of pseudo-"experts." What always did it for me was the fact that there was never a decent response to any of these questions by the government. Even the hit pieces you'd see on 9/11 were always personal attacks. The mainstream never contested the actual "facts" movies like Loose Change presented. Or so it seemed. After watching Screw Loose Change, I delved into the world of 9/11 Truth debunking. Among my favorites are the Screw Loose Change Blog and 9/11 Myths Finally, someone was answered all these pertinent questions with something that was a bit foreign to me... facts agreed upon by the experts. There are no facts in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Just a lot of theories, which eventually break down to "hey, we're just asking questions" if someone questions the validity of such. No structural, civil, or any engineers agree with the truthers. Yet, most of my friends will try to explain the hard physics involved in structural collapses. None of these people are engineers, physicists, or even in a scientific field, for that matter. Someone's supposed to take their word over an expert's? The truthers will just tell you that all the experts are "in on it." Yeah, sure. Every engineer in the world is complicit in the government's murder of 3,000 people. And so are the firemen, who apparently ordered Larry Silverstein to "pull" Building 7. The truthers' misrepresentation of Silverstein's quote is one of the most popular "facts" to spit out, but in doing so, you are effectively in agreement that firefighters were not only involved in the controlled demolition of WTC7, but they are also aiding and abetting in the government's cover-up. Yeah, every firefighter who was out there on 9/11 is going to be complicit in the MURDER OF 343 OF THEIR FALLEN BROTHERS! To quote Loose Change co-creator Jason Bermas, "the firefighters are paid off." This is absolute horseshit, which brings me to why I've formally distanced myself from this sorry excuse for a movement. Loose Change, 9/11 Mysteries, Alex Jones, and all the other kooks out there are fucking lying about, distorting, and misrepresenting the facts to further their personal agendas. And what is their agenda, you ask? Money, in the words of Shaggy 2 Dope, "mutha fuckin bitch ass money." Not only are they desecrating 3,000 graves, but they are profiting off of it. That, my friends, makes me sick to my fuckin stomach. Some may think that this is just a big personal attack, and that I'm not presenting enough facts. I honestly don't give a fuck because the information is out there. I love how all the truthers, myself included for a time, brag about how they've done all the "research." Well my friends, research doesn't involve looking exclusively at other 9/11 conspiracy sites! Research involves looking at things from both sides of the spectrum, and making your own decisions. Check out the links I've listed above, or google "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" and "Screw Loose Change." Controlled demolitions: absolute bullshit. Now, I know there are some legitimate inconsistencies in the story that can't be proven false. My problem, and your problem as well, is that we have been blatantly misled by people who are only interested in selling dvds and t-shirts. This is supposed to be a truth movement. At this point, Alex Jones could pull every smoking gun out of ass that proves without question that 9/11 was an inside job, but it will never excuse the fact that he had lie so blatantly. Fuck you, fuck avery & bermas, fuck 9/11 mysteries, and fuck every true believer who goes out there and tells people that they've "done their research." I don't know what the future holds for the student group. For the time being, I'm gonna continue to fill out the paperwork and other such presidential duties because I take my responsibilities and promises very seriously. But you won't see me hand out one more 9/11 pamphlet, or ever utter the phrase "9/11 was an inside job" ever again. I'd personally like to see the group transition away from fringe conspiracy theories and focus more on local issues (God knows, there's enough corruption in Albany, alone), but I might get outvoted by truthers. If that is the case, I cordially invite any of the truthers who think I'm totally wrong to step up and take the reigns. The group is, in part, my creation, but I'll gladly abdicate the throne if all everyone wants to do is continue the truther nonsense. Oh yeah, what sent me over the edge today? I watched Screw 9/11 Mysteries, which basically adds comments to the original movie. Like Screw Loose Change, every single theory spat out is immediately disproven with formal citations from the NIST report, scientific journals, and the experts themselves. By the end, the whole controlled demolition theory is a complete joke, as the film can't even keep their own story straight. 9/11 Mysteries ends very tragically with a phone call from one of the victims inside the WTC. You may have seen it, it's the guy who's frantically describing the situation to a loved one, but then suddenly, the building starts to collapse and all you hear are his last words, agonizing screams. The creators of this propaganda movie did this intentionally, to play on your emotions right after feeding you all their bullshit theories. But as I watched this film again, this time with the annotations, I knew that the creators of this movie used that poor guy's dying moments for their own selfish gains of selling dvds and perpetuating myths that do nothing but denigrate the lives lost on 9/11/01. Change of heart? My heart's always been in the right place. I was just cheating myself of making an informed judgment on all the information available. I'm done, thanks.
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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
That's what it boils down to. Any unanswered question becomes a conspiracy, and unsupported "answers" to those questions become the "real truth of what happened".
"The "molten steel" was mostly aluminum and other various office material. Mostly."
Molten aluminium, at least at temperatures just above it's melting point, does not glow a fiery red. It retains it's natural color, or something very close to it.
A little more research about melted aluminum shows some peculiarities. Whether it appears to glow or not seems to depend on 2 factors: The temperature and the lighting conditions. The darker the conditions, the more it will appear to glow. The brighter the conditions, the more silvery molten aluminum appears to be. The hotter a substance, including aluminum, is heated, the more it does indeed glow. But it's obvious the photos above were take in low light conditions. The following is from: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t4749.html ========== Every object at 1000°F produces red light; every object at 2000°F produces orange light; and every object at 2700°F produces white light. However, different materials emit different amounts of light, and different materials reflect different amounts of ambient light. Aluminum does not emit as much light as iron, and it reflects more ambient light. The end result is that the iron will have a brighter glow. In order to fully understand this concept, a piece of aluminum and a piece of iron would have to be placed side by side and then heated up to the exact same temperature. We would then clearly see that the iron glows brighter than the aluminum, even though they are at exactly the same temperature. In the photograph below the molten aluminum inside the crucible is glowing a faint red, but the aluminum at the edge of the crucible is reflecting a lot of sunlight, so it appears silvery. This photograph was taken inside a building, so the ambient light is at a lower intensity. This makes the crucible appear a brighter red, but the aluminum at the edge of the crucible (where the light is brighter) is still silvery. If the lights in this building were turned off, all of the aluminum would glow a bright red. ========== Pinguinite Note: In the lower photo, the crucible itself is glowing red, and the molten aluminum inside may be at least partially reflecting the red of the crucible instead of glowing itself. The morning of 911 was a completely clear sunny day. If the material pouring out of the tower was aluminum, it would have to be very hot, perhaps upwards of 2500 degrees F (???).
There were lots of items in the aftermath of the jets crash. And a lot of different temperatures involved. And a lot of different metal alloys. I'm not sure why you believe there had to be some controlled demolition just because you can't believe that it couldn't have been molten aluminum. Molten aluminum is but one very plausible explanation, and one that many mettalurgists have used.
True. But in addition to it appearing to be more like steel and less like aluminium, it is peculiar that something would happen to store that volume of molten metal before it would be released, pouring out of the tower. I don't think it could be a case of hard metal instantly melting and then flowing away out of the tower. There's simply too much volume for that. It's more like metal melted and accumulated in soem kind of pool, the pool then being breached releasing it. Obviously it would have to be something that could tolerate the temperatures better than the substance filmed. Thermite/Thermate, of course, being a possible exception as it can heat steel sufficiently fast. I never said that's what I believed (though WTC7 does look a exactly like a controlled demolition, as any rational observer would agree). I just want a reasonable explanation for the observations. It's just that a reasonable explanation of the government wanting to promote political support for a War on Terror to the point of at least aiding in the demise of the WTC towers needs to be weighed against the reasonableness of an innocent explanation of what appears to be molten metal pouring out of the tower. And while the likelihood of US citizens working inside the government to bring down the towers and kill upwards of 3000 people might be considered far-fetched, it is already a fact that such people have engaged in killings to further political agendas.
If you look at the video I posted, it is clear the molten metal started pouring very soon after the plane impact. So I guess if you if are intent on believing, "well, it couldn't have been that," there's probably nothing else I can say. I guess you believe those evil conspirators had the plane impact and the thermite detonation precisely timed. I don't know why I try and argue with crazy people, because as much as i try, I will never succeed as being as crazy as they are.
I don't know why I try and argue with crazy people, because as much as i try, I will never succeed as being as crazy as they are. I did look at the video. If you had read my post objectively, you would have seen I'm open minded on the subject. But just as many 9-11 truthers and similar do not see things objectively, you have not read my posts objectively. It's a psychological thing where people see what fits their preconceived notions instead of what's really there, and it's something that everyone does every day. It's normal, though in situations like this thread, it also harmful. I don't know what happened on 9-11 beyond the basics. I wasn't there. It is you that apparently has more confidence in knowledge the events that took place that day than I do. Your posted video does offer an explanation. But I don't trust the government, and lying to the American people is a routine function which is the least of its crimes. One thing I'll say about truthers is this: If the government was more trustworthy, there would likely be no 9-11 truther movement. But because the government has lied to the American people, it has lost credibility and trust. And that is not the fault of the 9-11 truthers.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"There are no facts in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Just a lot of theories, which eventually break down to "hey, we're just asking questions"
#2. To: misterwhite (#1)
#5. To: Logsplitter (#2)
"The "molten steel" was mostly aluminum and other various office material. Mostly."
#13. To: Pinguinite (#5)
Molten aluminium, at least at temperatures just above it's melting point, does not glow a fiery red.
#17. To: Roscoe, no gnu taxes (#13)
#19. To: Pinguinite (#17)
#27. To: no gnu taxes (#19)
I'm not sure why you believe there had to be some controlled demolition just because you can't believe that it couldn't have been molten aluminum.
There were lots of items in the aftermath of the jets crash. And a lot of different temperatures involved. And a lot of different metal alloys.
I'm not sure why you believe there had to be some controlled demolition just because you can't believe that it couldn't have been molten aluminum. Molten aluminum is but one very plausible explanation, and one that many mettalurgists have used.
#31. To: Pinguinite (#27)
#33. To: no gnu taxes (#31)
If you look at the video I posted, it is clear the molten metal started pouring very soon after the plane impact. So I guess if you if are intent on believing, "well, it couldn't have been that," there's probably nothing else I can say.
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