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Title: Hero Security Guard Diffuses Hostage Situation Only to be Fatally Shot by Late Arriving Cops
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pr ... on-shot-killed-cops-late-help/
Published: Dec 24, 2015
Author: William Norman Grigg
Post Date: 2015-12-25 10:44:30 by Deckard
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Views: 4102
Comments: 26
Douglas County, GA — Bobby Daniels was a peace officer by trade – a private security guard employed at CNN’s headquarters in Atlanta. When he learned that his emotionally troubled 25-year-old son Bias had suffered a breakdown and was holding a fellow security guard at gunpoint in a mobile home part in Douglasville, Bobby raced to the scene. Using the skills of persuasion and patient de-escalation upon which a private peace officer must rely, Bobby persuaded his son to relinquish his handgun and place it on the hood of a car. Just seconds later, Daniels was fatally shot – not by his mentally ill son, but by the sheriff’s deputies who had arrived on the scene. In familiar fashion, law enforcement officials insist that the victim of this police shooting – at least the 960th to occur in 2015 – was to blame, and they have provided contradictory accounts as to how it happened. “I think that he could have been trying to help the situation instead of hurting it, but when he pointed the gun at the officers, he was shot,” asserted Douglas County Sheriff Phil Miller in remarks to reports at the scene shortly after the December 21 incident. A different official account provided by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation claims that as Bobby and Bias struggled over control of the gun, deputies attempted to incapacitate the younger man with a taser. “As the fight continued between Bias and Bobby, the handgun was pointed at the deputies, at which point one of the deputy [sic] fired, striking and killing Bobby,” according to the GBI. “There’s no doubt in my mind that my officer thought his life was in danger, and he did what he thought he had to do,” insists Sheriff Miller, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. That the deputy believed himself to be at risk is a certainty, if only because police officers are incessantly catechized about the grossly exaggerated risks of their job and marinated in misinformation about a non-existent “war on police.” That this was a potentially deadly situation was clear, as well. Daniels, who sought a non-lethal solution to the predicament, was willing to place himself at risk. The deputies, on the other hand, behaved in accordance with the “officer safety uber alles” mindset. Eyewitness Garret Daniels, Bobby’s nephew, says that Bobby “tried to slap the gun off the car,” which may have led the deputies to think “he was trying to grab the gun probably to shoot them, but no he really wasn’t…. He was trying to protect [Bias]. That’s all he was trying to do.” That version of events might explain why anxious deputies would have shot Bobby, but it contradicts the “official” account in which the father and son struggled over control of the gun. Speaking on behalf of the family, attorney Chris Stewart maintains that “At no point did [Bobby] touch the weapon, but for some reason the officer shot. What they should know is that they killed a victim. Bobby didn’t want anyone to be shot; he was trying to protect his son and the officers.” Bobby Daniels, a Navy veteran, “would never ever take a gun and point it at an officer,” his grieving wife, Cynthia, insisted during a tearful press conference. “He would never do that.” “Bobby Daniels is a veteran of the U.S. military,” attorney Stewart points out. “He is a father of five, married, a great man and the last person that would ever point a gun at an officer.” According to a press release issued by Stewart, the round that killed Bobby was “fired at a distance from an AR-15.” Police officers, the public is told, are never off duty. The same principle applies to private peace officers, whose occupation is substantially more dangerous than that of government-employed police officers. Rick McCann, founder and CEO of Private Peace Officer International, observes that a far larger number of private security officers die in the line of duty than their public sector counterparts. Furthermore, while the overwhelming majority of on-duty police deaths happen “as a result of traffic accidents, or issues arising from training and physical conditioning,” more than eighty percent of the on-duty fatalities involving private security officers are “a result of traumatic, confrontational injury” inflicted by someone committing an act of criminal violence. Unlike police officers, who are protected by “qualified immunity” and have no legally enforceable duty to protect an individual citizen, private security guards are fully accountable, both in civil and criminal terms, for any injury they inflict on innocent people – including liabilities that would be involved in failure to carry out their contractual obligation of protection. Bobby Daniels was the first responder on the scene of the hostage situation, and he defused it without violence – only to be killed by government employees whose only tool is violence, and who almost certainly will not be held accountable for killing a private peace officer in the performance of his duty.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Justified. “In front of the dark SUV was the armed individual, subsequently identified as Bias Daniels, 25. Deputies instructed Bias Daniel to put the weapon down. As Bias put the gun down, one of the individuals located at the white sedan moved in and grabbed the gun at which point a struggle for the gun ensued. The individual was identified as Bobby Daniels, 48, who is also the father of Bias. As Bobby and Bias continued to fight for the gun, deputies shouted verbal commands to them to put down the weapon. One of the deputies fired his Taser striking Bias. The Taser deployment was ineffective in that the struggle continued and neither were affected by it. As the fight continued between Bias and Bobby, the handgun was pointed at the deputies, at which point one of the deputy fired, striking and killing Bobby. The gun fell to the ground at which point Bias picked it up and ran away. The deputies pursued Bias and fired one shot, missing him. Bias was apprehended a short time later hiding in the mobile home park. The handgun was also recovered in close proximity to where Bias was captured.“
But ... but ... the family attorney said, "At no point did [Bobby] touch the weapon, but for some reason the officer shot." He's an attorney and he would know, right?
More nonsense. They don't wear capes. And they are not on-duty 24/7.
If that's justified, then it would have been appropriate to shoot both of the men struggling for the gun when during the struggle the gun was allegedly pointed toward the officers. Shooting only one of them would allow the other to gain control of the weapon, and thus put the police lives in more danger, especially in a case where the police have no idea who among those struggling has hostile intent. It's already been decided that any time a police officer feels he is in danger of death or injury, killing anyone that would remove that threat is justified. That even if the officer willingly first placed himself in the dangerous situation. And in this case, shooting the good guy placed the officer in more danger. Of course, reaching any conclusion based on a single paragraph from a single officer's biased report is premature.
Nonsense.
BullBush! Security guards are off duty the instant they punch out at the time clock. Unlike cops they take no government oath and they get paid by the hour. BTW,what kind of ignorant fool names a child "Bias"? Have these people never heard of a dictionary? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You don't really think an officer of the court would lie,do you? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Yeah,cops are technically on-duty 24/7. How else do you think they got away with carrying guns in civilian clothes after 1964? They are off the clock when their shift ends and they are released,but are "on duty and required by law and their oaths" to get involved in any crime they see being committed. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Nonsense. No,it's not. Read the story again,the one that wasn't killed immediately picked up the gun and ran away. The cops would have been justified to shoot him the instant he picked the gun up because they didn't know his intent. Once he started running away,they no longer had any justification to shoot. BTW,this guy took off work to run over to a situation where his son was both committed a crime and in danger of being killed himself. He went there to protect his son from injury. How does that make him a hero? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
How long do you figure he stood there after picking up the gun before running away?
Don't know,don't care. It's irrelevant because he picked it up,ran away,and they didn't shoot him. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
1/10 second? Now is it relevant?
1/10 second? Now is it relevant? It's irrelevant because no one was killed,and nobody ever has to explain why they didn't kill someone. Not even cops. Also,you should be a superhero if your reflexes are so quick you can bend down,pick up a guy,turn around,and start running away in 1/10th of a second. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
What shooting are you talking about?
What shooting are you talking about? Typo. Should have been "pick up a GUN". Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Old, bad knee, and even I could snatch up a handgun on the trot. Now we're down a 0/10 of a second.
Maybe you are,but I'm not. I can fall to the ground in a tenth of a second,but it takes longer than that and something to hold on to if I am going to bend a knee. Truth to tell,I have never seen anybody that could lean down,scoop up a handgun,turn around,and start running away in a tenth of a second. You can't even return fire in a tenth of a second if you have to spin around to acquire your target,never mind locate and pick a guy up off the ground. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You have just proven that baseball is impossible.
Bullshit. When was the last time you watched a baseball game where people were ducking bullets and then grabbing for handguns on the ground? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Of course. Bullets flying is notorious for making people move calmly and slowly.
Ok,so you are an idiot. My mistake. I thought I was talking with someone who had a lived im real world. Here is a tip for you. When bullets are flying and you are trying to get out of their line of fire,you don't go grabbing for a gun on the ground right before you run away. AND....you are completely delusional if you think you can even reach down to the ground and pick up a handgun,stand back up,and then run in a tenth of a second while expecting you are going to be fired upon. Since you are so mentally slow,I will point out another little factoid to you. Professional baseball players can't snatch a ball off the ground,turn around,and run away in that length of time,either. They catch a ball coming at them because they focus on it and see it coming at the. A totally different thing than being surprised by someone shooting to death a family member you are wrestling with,they trying to pick up a gun they dropped,turn,and run away. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You're hysterical. That's EXACTLY what happened.
In a tenth of a second? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Maybe less. If he was moving away from the officers as he scooped up the handgun, then once he started running away,they no longer had any justification to shoot. At least, that's what somebody told me.
Maybe less. BullBush. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
GCP live in the real world??? LOL... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
#2. To: Roscoe (#1)
"As Bobby and Bias continued to fight for the gun ..."
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
Police officers, the public is told, are never off duty. The same principle applies to private peace officers, whose occupation is substantially more dangerous than that of government-employed police officers.
#4. To: Roscoe (#1)
#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)
If that's justified, then it would have been appropriate to shoot both of the men
#6. To: Deckard (#0)
Police officers, the public is told, are never off duty. The same principle applies to private peace officers,
#7. To: misterwhite (#2)
But ... but ... the family attorney said, "At no point did [Bobby] touch the weapon, but for some reason the officer shot."
#8. To: TooConservative (#3)
And they are not on-duty 24/7.
#9. To: Roscoe (#5)
If that's justified, then it would have been appropriate to shoot both of the men
#10. To: sneakypete (#9)
The cops would have been justified to shoot him the instant he picked the gun up because they didn't know his intent. Once he started running away,they no longer had any justification to shoot.
#11. To: Roscoe (#10)
How long do you figure he stood there after picking up the gun before running away?
#12. To: sneakypete (#11)
It's irrelevant
#13. To: Roscoe (#12)
It's irrelevant
#14. To: sneakypete (#13)
pick up a guy
#15. To: Roscoe (#14)
pick up a guy
#16. To: sneakypete (#15)
#17. To: Roscoe (#16)
Now we're down a 0/10 of a second.
#18. To: sneakypete (#17)
Truth to tell,I have never seen anybody that could lean down,scoop up a handgun,turn around,and start running away in a tenth of a second.
#19. To: Roscoe (#18)
You have just proven that baseball is impossible.
#20. To: sneakypete (#19)
When was the last time you watched a baseball game where people were ducking bullets
#21. To: Roscoe (#20)
(Edited)
Of course. Bullets flying is notorious for making people move calmly and slowly.
#22. To: sneakypete (#21)
When bullets are flying and you are trying to get out of their line of fire,you don't go grabbing for a gun on the ground right before you run away.
#23. To: Roscoe (#22)
That's EXACTLY what happened.
#24. To: sneakypete (#23)
In a tenth of a second?
#25. To: Roscoe (#24)
In a tenth of a second?
#26. To: sneakypete (#21)
Ok,so you are an idiot. My mistake. I thought I was talking with someone who had a lived im real world.
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