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Title: Islam and the West: An Irreconcilable Conflict?
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/articles/islam ... est-an-irreconcilable-conflict
Published: Dec 22, 2015
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2015-12-22 13:51:38 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 608
Comments: 6

“I worry greatly that the rhetoric coming from the Republicans, particularly Donald Trump, is sending a message to Muslims here … and … around the world, that there is a ‘clash of civilizations.'”

So said Hillary Clinton in Saturday night’s New Hampshire debate.

Yet, that phrase was not popularized by Donald Trump, but by Harvard’s famed Samuel Huntington. His “The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order“ has been described by Zbigniew Brzezinski as providing “quintessential insights necessary for a broad understanding of world affairs in our time.”

That Clinton is unaware of the thesis, or dismisses it, does not speak well of the depth of her understanding of our world.

Another attack on Trump, more veiled, came Monday in an “open letter” in The Washington Post where four dozen religious leaders, led by Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, charge “some politicians, candidates and commentators” with failing to follow Thomas Jefferson’s dictum:

“I never will, by any word or act … admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.”

Intending no disrespect to Jefferson, if you do not inquire “into the religious opinions of others” in this world, it can get you killed.

“We love our Muslim siblings in humanity,” said the signers of Cardinal McCarrick’s letter, “they serve our communities as doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers, journalists, first responders, and as members of the U.S. Armed forces and Congress.”

Undeniably true. But, unfortunately, that is not the end of the matter.

Did the worst attack on the United States since Pearl Harbor, 9/11, have nothing to do with the Islamic faith?

Did Fort Hood and the San Bernardino massacres, the London subway bombings and the killings at Charlie Hebdo, as well as the slaughter at the Bataclan in Paris, have nothing to do with Islam?

Does the lengthening list of atrocities by terrorist cells of ISIS, Boko Haram, al-Qaida, al-Shabaab and the Nusra Front have nothing to do with Islam? Is it really illiberal to inquire “into the religious opinions” of those who perpetrate these atrocities? Or is it suicidal not to?

There has arisen a legitimate question as to whether Islamism can coexist peacefully with, or within, a post-Christian secular West.

For, as the Poet of the Empire, Rudyard Kipling, wrote: “Oh, East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat.”

As of 1960, the Great Wave of immigration into the United States from Southern and Eastern Europe had been halted for 35 years. And the children of these millions had been largely assimilated and Americanized.

Yet, 50 years after the Turkish gastarbeiters were brought in the millions into Germany, and Algerians and other North Africans were brought into France, no such wholesale assimilation had taken place.

Why not? Why are there still large, indigestible communities in France where French citizens do not venture and French police are ever on alert?

What inhibits the assimilation that swiftly followed the entry of millions of Catholics, Orthodox Christians and Jews into the United States from 1890 to 1920? Might it have something to do with Islam and its inherent resistance to a diversity of faiths?

Set aside faith-based terrorism and Islamist terrorism, and consider the nations and regimes of the Middle and Near East.

Iran holds presidential elections every four years, but is a Shiite theocracy where the Ayatollah is a virtual dictator. Saudi Arabia is a Sunni kingdom and home to Wahhabism, a Sunni form of puritanism.

Those ruling regimes are rooted in Islam.

And while secular America embraces expressions of religious pluralism and sexual freedom, homosexuality and apostasy are often viewed as capital crimes in Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Where Islam is the ruling faith, the Quran is secular law.

Catholic historian Hilaire Belloc saw our future on its way, even before World War II: “[I]n the contrast between our religious chaos and the religious certitude still strong throughout the Mohammedan world … lies our peril.”

Historically, Christianity came to dominate the Roman Empire through preaching, teaching, example and martyrdom. Islam used the sword to conquer the Middle and Near East, North Africa and Spain in a single century, until stopped at Poitiers by Charles Martel.

And this is today’s crucial distinction: Islam is not simply a religion of 1.6 billion people, it is also a political ideology for ruling nations and, one day, the world.

To the True Believer, Islam is ultimately to be imposed on all of mankind, which is to be ruled by the prescriptions of the Quran. And where Muslims achieve a majority, Christianity is, at best, tolerated.

Nor is this position illogical. For, if there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet, all other religions are false and none can lead to salvation. Why should false, heretical and ruinous faiths not be suppressed?

Behind the reluctance of Trump and other Americans to send another U.S. army into a region that has seen wars in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan leave us with ashes in our mouths, lies a wisdom born of painful experience.

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Islam and the West: An Irreconcilable Conflict?

At the rate we are going under our psychotically induced levels of weakness, reconciliation will occur with islam's conquest of western civilization. Take that to the bank.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-22   16:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Liberals wholeheartedly believe in genetic - social evolution ... after the massage - mixer --- we come out all the same !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-12-22   23:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BorisY (#2)

... after the massage ...

There is a lot of fun during the massage, as well.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-12-22   23:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

during the massage,

ask sneakypete ... chemical - drug - steroid - estrogen --- massage !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-12-22   23:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

if there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet, all other religions are false and none can lead to salvation.

Islam certainly can't lead to salvation, appeasement of an angry god is its only purpose. There is only one way, Jesus Christ told us that, Islam is a subversion of all that went before, the ravings of a mad man who heard voices and didn't know whether he was talking to an angel or a devil

Islam is one of those false, heretical and ruinous faiths and should be suppressed to remove this evil from the Earth

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-23   16:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Another attack on Trump, more veiled, came Monday in an “open letter” in The Washington Post where four dozen religious leaders, led by Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, charge “some politicians, candidates and commentators” with failing to follow Thomas Jefferson’s dictum:

“I never will, by any word or act … admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.”

Intending no disrespect to Jefferson, if you do not inquire “into the religious opinions of others” in this world, it can get you killed.

I agree with your assessment 100%. Cardinal McCarrick and his ilk are dead wrong. We are witnessing the prophesied final conflict between good and evil, known as Ar Mageddon, which began on 9/11 and is fast escalating into World War III. Everyone in the world will have to take sides in the great conflict, and in America it starts with the upcoming presidential election. We will have a choice between a "politically correct" Muslim sympathizer on one side, and, on the other side, an un-politically correct candidate who does not care if he offends Muslims and will ban them from entering the US. Trump certainly has my vote, and (if the polls are correct) he has the vote of a majority of Americans. After he bans Muslim immigrants, he needs to lock up or deport all the Muslims already here before they can kill any more of us, just like we did with the Japanese during World War II. And I think Trump has the balls to do it. Then (as he has already promised) he needs to level Raqqa and kill every last man, woman and child (and no innocents will be killed, because ISIS has also radicalized their women and children, and anyone who doesn't like ISIS has already fled the city long ago).

interpreter  posted on  2016-01-04   14:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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