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Title: Propaganda Can’t Melt Steel Beams
Source: Kevin Ryan
URL Source: http://digwithin.net/
Published: Dec 20, 2015
Author: Kevin Ryan
Post Date: 2015-12-20 21:04:19 by Operation 40
Keywords: 911, twoofer, sycophant
Views: 18801
Comments: 74

Kevin Ryan at Dig Within, 12/20/2015:

Eleven years ago, I initiated a discussion about the fact that jet fuel fires could not have melted steel at the World Trade Center. The government agency investigating the WTC destruction responded by holding “some of its deliberations in secret.” Although it’s not a secret that jet fuel can’t melt steel, due to propaganda from sources like The Washington Post and The Huffington Post, Americans often get confused about what facts like that mean to any national discussion. In a nutshell, what it means is that the molten metal found at the WTC, for which there is a great deal of evidence, cannot be explained by the official 9/11 myth.

Today no one thinks that jet fuel fires can melt steel beams—not even The Posts’ new science champion, who doesn’t bother to actually use jet fuel or steel beams to teach us about “retarded metallurgical things.” Instead, he uses a thin metal rod and a blacksmith forge to imply that, if the WTC buildings were made of thin metal rods and there were lots of blacksmith forges there, the thin metal rods would have lost strength and this would be the result. If you buy that as an explanation for what happened at the WTC, you might agree that everyone should just stop questioning 9/11.

This absurd demonstration highlights at least two major problems with America’s ongoing struggle to understand 9/11. The first is that there was a great deal of molten metal at the WTC. Those who know that fact sometimes share internet memes that say “Jet Fuel Can’t Melt Steel Beams” when they want to convey that “Thermite Melted Steel at the WTC.” The second major problem is that certain mainstream media sources continue to put a lot of energy into dis-informing the public about 9/11.

Sources like The Posts, The New York Times and some “alternative media” continue to work hard to support the official myth of 9/11. That effort is not easy because they must do so while providing as little actual information about 9/11 as possible. The dumbing down of the average citizen is a full time job for such propagandists. Luckily for them, American students receive almost no historical context that encourages them to think critically or consider ideas that conflict with blind allegiance to their government. When it comes to the WTC, it also helps that almost 80% of Americans are scientifically illiterate.

As media companies attempt to confuse the public about 9/11, they must avoid relating details that might actually get citizens interested in the subject. For example, it’s imperative that they never mention any of these fourteen facts about 9/11. It is also important to never reference certain people, like the ordnance distribution expert (and Iran-Contra suspect) who managed security at the WTC or the tortured top al Qaeda leader who turned out to have nothing to do with al Qaeda. In fact, to support the official myth of 9/11 these days, media must ignore almost every aspect of the crimes while promoting only the most mindless nonsense they can find. Unfortunately, that bewildering strategy becomes more obvious every day.snip more http://digwithin.net/

Kevin Ryan is the former Site Manager for Environmental Health Laboratories, a division of Underwriters Laboratories (UL). Mr. Ryan, a Chemist and laboratory manager, was fired by UL in 2004 for publicly questioning the report being drafted by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on their World Trade Center investigation. In the intervening period, Ryan has completed additional research while his original questions, which have become increasingly important over time, remain unanswered by UL or NIST.

Through interviews, presentations, and his work as co-editor at the online Journal of 911 Studies, Mr. Ryan works to bring out the truth behind the events of 9/11/01 for the benefit of all people. http://ultruth.com/Kevin_Ryan.htm


For the Unthinking Fuckwit from Purgatory Iron Works and His Idiotic “Jet Fuel” Demonstration
Posted on December 17, 2015 by willyloman

“If it (9/11) was a conspiracy, I do not care.” Trenton Tye,
genius welder

OK. So we have another phony, “Redneck Dixon White” fuckwit over at Youtube, a guy by the name of Trenton Tye, who has put together a simpleton’s version of “the Truth” regarding what did or did not happen on 9/11.

Tye has taken time from his “busy day” of working on Youtube videos, a whole 2 minutes mind you, to show the public just how stupid “truthers” are when it comes to the steel in the Twin Towers.

I, on the other hand, have been researching and writing about those events for the past 8 years and have published over 100 articles of my own work on the subject.

Of course, his substance-free and DEEPLY FLAWED demonstration has been latched upon by several main stream media outlets as the end-all be-all “debunking” of the Truth advocates out here who say the key evidence in the demolition of the Twin Towers rests in the melted steel.

That is patently false and Tye knows it.

This article, which I will try to make into a video if my computer allows it, and which I will direct toward Tye himself, will pick his ignorant argument apart, piece by piece starting with the first thing that came out of his mouth:

1. “If it (9/11) was a conspiracy, I do not care.”

Many people do care, Tye, that’s why they spend years researching what happened that day. Because, unlike you, some of us (US) do give a shit about finding out who was responsible for the event that killed so many people in New York, Pennsylvania and DC that day and subsequently launched war after war across the Middle East killing scores more (US troops and civilians alike) and leaving 10 times that number scarred for life (US troops and civilians alike). And that’s too say nothing of the constitutional rights we all had to give up for the Patriot Act or the trillions of dollars of debt your kids will have to pay for the wars, you fucking imbecile.

..snip more https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/for-the-unthinking-fuckwit-from-purgatory-iron-works-and-his-idiotic-jet-fuel-demonstration/


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#7. To: Operation 40 (#0)

Since it is clearly evident that the collapse of the towers started at the point of plane impact in both towers, you have to believe one of two things if you believe they were brought down by a demolition:

1) That teams planted explosives at the exact places the planes would impact without anyone noticing, and the pilots were knowledgeable of and could hit these exact points. Also, you believe for some reason it took many minutes after the planes hit before the explosives detonated.

or

2) That teams of explosives experts (that no one noticed) were in place at the points of impact and survived the impact. They then planted and detonated explosives after the impact on a suicide mission.

So which one of these scenarios do you believe? And why the need for the planes anyway if the buildings could just brought down with explosives?

I'm still waiting for you to tell me which scenario you actually believe.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-21   10:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

I'm still waiting for you to tell me which scenario you actually believe.

What makes you think I have to believe either of those statements?

I want a real investigation, where Bush must testify under oath. Is that so hard to imagine?

Still waiting for you to answer this: Why do you think Bush didn't want an investigation into the biggest crime against America in history?

Now since I answered your question, please reciprocate. TIA

Operation 40  posted on  2015-12-21   20:07:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Operation 40 (#32)

There was an investigation, nut job.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-21   20:08:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: no gnu taxes (#34)

There was an investigation, nut job.

Attention Jackass: Still waiting for you to answer this: Why do you think Bush didn't want an investigation into the biggest crime against America in history?

Now since I answered your question, please reciprocate. TIA

Why can't you answer that? If you fail to provide an answer, we're done. Further "replies" from you to me will be ignored.

sycophant

Operation 40  posted on  2015-12-22   0:25:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Operation 40 (#43)

Find it and read it, kook.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-22   9:08:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: no gnu taxes (#44)

You scamper around this thread and this forum spewing your bovine excrement but the record shows that you can't answer a simple question, even after your stupid question received attention.

Why do you think Bush didn't want an investigation into the biggest crime against America in history?

"no gnu taxes" hasn't a clue. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. But you've got time to play screen writer and pen a silly, retarded little scene from a movie in your mind. Pathetic.

You're just another American Sucker that has been conned by professionals. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your country has been looted and your children's future has been spent by some of "humanity's" worst scum that ever walked the planet.

Shove that book up somewhere dark, if there's any room.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-12-22   20:26:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Operation 40 (#61)

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-22   20:45:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: no gnu taxes (#62)

Can't answer a simple question. Afraid to think?

Pay attention, chump. I realize that's asking a lot.

The 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail" - The Commissioners

Operation 40- 1
no gnu taxes- 0

Some people believe everything they're told.
And that's how the US was turned into a cesspool.
Have fun saluting.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-12-22   21:55:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Operation 40 (#63)

Exactly why do you take their complaints as proof the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions, or whatever your tinfoil beliefs are?

Answer:

You're a kook.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-23   7:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: no gnu taxes, Operation 40 (#64)

Exactly why do you take their complaints as proof the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions, or whatever your tinfoil beliefs are?

Why were Bush and Cheney allowed to testify in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors?

Deckard  posted on  2015-12-23   8:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Deckard (#66)

Why were Bush and Cheney allowed to testify in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors?

And what is that supposed to prove, outside of your tinfoil ruminations?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-23   8:49:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: no gnu taxes (#67)

Why were Bush and Cheney allowed to testify in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors?

And what is that supposed to prove

Attaboy!

Still shilling for Bush and Cheney.

WTF man - you don't see anything fishy about the two war criminals not having to testify under oath?

Good fucking grief, WTH is wrong with you?

Deckard  posted on  2015-12-23   9:09:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: no gnu taxes, Deckard (#70)

50 years from now he will be spouting the same old stuff. Just like global warming bs. People just can't handle reality.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-23   9:25:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Justified (#71)

Well, he's delved into that 50 year old Kennedy assassination plot. I'm waiting to hear about how Bush and the neocons killed Lincoln.

And then there's that Titanic conspiracy....

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-23   9:32:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#74. To: no gnu taxes (#72)

I often wonder if things get out of hand when people spoof events and it carries its on life into the ct world!

Justified  posted on  2015-12-23 09:54:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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