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Title: Meet Donald Trump, the anti-Christian
Source: PennLive
URL Source: http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/201 ... donald_trump_the_anti-chr.html
Published: Dec 20, 2015
Author: Christine M. Flowers
Post Date: 2015-12-20 18:01:11 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1220
Comments: 10

This week I spent an unseasonably warm evening at church listening to kids sing Christmas songs when I suddenly found myself tearing up.

During an inspired rendition of "Do You Hear What I Hear?" I was overwhelmed with a sense of gratitude that these children could distract me in their sweet, showy innocence from the meanness and insanity of adults.

For a moment, the pageant cleansed me of the nuclear poison caused by Donald Trump. The past weeks have been difficult ones for people who don't fit easily into any tidy political category. I certainly don't.

On the one hand, I hate people who take offense at the drop of a hat. It's ridiculous to dance around the fact that the massacre in San Bernardino was executed by a radicalized U.S. citizen and his jihadist wife. They were Muslim.

On the other hand, the radiologist who fought mightily to save my father's life three decades ago and who cried at his funeral was also Muslim.

So are many people I call friends.

So are some arrogant apologists at CAIR.

So are the soldiers on the ground in the Middle East fighting ISIS.

So are most of its victims.

Religion is relevant, then. But it's not determinative. And the idea that we're going to applaud someone who thinks you can bar an entire group of believers from the United States is frightening to me.

I'm more afraid of the people at Trump rallies who think he's an immigration and Constitutional Scholar, and are willing to draw barbed wire in front of a Muslim seeking admission.

They parrot talking points they've heard on the radio and television, and lack any sense of doubt or humility. They call themselves Americans. I'd call them something else.

I remember seven years ago, when Sarah Palin was being ridiculed by liberals for being stupid. It was beyond offensive, and showed that progressives like to demean the intelligence of their philosophical opponents.

I vowed then that I would never do that. But I will also not ignore that some people, in order to maintain the integrity of their values, will not listen to facts. They will integrate opinion into their arguments, and convince themselves that their beliefs are objectively true.

They will also report poll statistics from polls with which they agree, and ignore the statistics from those that run counter to their preconceptions.

You will try and discuss with them, calmly, the issues. They will take offense, and respond with a certitude that stuns, or at least cuts off the conversation.

If you say you can't exclude an entire group of people based on the way they pray to God, regardless of the deformation of their faith by others, you hear "Well Roosevelt did it, with the Japanese."

Actually, Roosevelt interned a lot of people, didn't exclude them, but he also refused to accept Jewish refugees from the Holocaust, and set up camps for Italian and German Americans as well.

This was not based on religion, and this was during wartime, but it is now seen as having been the singular dark mark on an otherwise admirable political life.

This is not an example to bolster the righteousness of Trump's position.

And still we end up with a low threshold debate about all Muslims being potential terrorists so we have to keep them out. And the buffoon with the hairdo gets standings ovations.

That's why I had moist eyes at the Christmas concert. Those sweet, high voices were inviting me to listen to the message of grace, of welcome, a Christian message of hope.

And all I could feel was gratitude that these babies weren't yet old enough to hate the stranger more than they loved their neighbor, mixed with regret that they would have to grow up, possibly under a President Trump.

Hence, the tears.

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This was not based on religion, and this was during wartime, but it is now seen as having been the singular dark mark on an otherwise admirable political life.

So what? We ARE at war now with Islam,and it was Islam that declared the war,not us. What are we supposed to do,ignore their attacks?

I'm with Trump on this one. Or at least with what he is saying,even if he doesn't mean it.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-20   21:14:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#5) (Edited)

So what? We ARE at war now with Islam, and it was Islam that declared the war, not us. What are we supposed to do,ignore their attacks?

Of course we must fight but we have to have a proper perspective on who our enemy is. our enemy is the saudi who spread this wahhabbist militancy across the world, but our nations are in league with them, prosecuting the war in Syria because Saud wants to have ascendency over Iran and the shiia. This is the nonsense of a 1,400 year old religious split and now the whole world is fighting the war. We have been foolish enough to have involved ourselves in this, led by that idiot George Bush who wrongly identifed who the enemy was, no doubt informed by his father and his alliance with Saud.

You think we need to fight this war, trump is right to prevent muslims migrating but we must abandon this war. Those who attacked are dead and defeated

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Of course we must fight but we have to have a proper perspective on who our enemy is. our enemy is the saudi who spread this wahhabbist militancy across the world, but our nations are in league with them, prosecuting the war in Syria because Saud wants to have ascendency over Iran and the shiia. This is the nonsense of a 1,400 year old religious split and now the whole world is fighting the war. We have been foolish enough to have involved ourselves in this, led by that idiot George Bush who wrongly identifed who the enemy was, no doubt informed by his father and his alliance with Saud.

I couldn't agree more,except for the part about George Bush wrongly identifying who our enemy was. He knew he was doing the dirty work for his Saudi paymasters because he took their money to do that work. The entire Bush Crime Family is nothing but a pack of whores for sale to the highest bidder,and traitors.

You think we need to fight this war,

Yes,but as I have been saying all along,what we need to do is attack it at it's source by taking out the Sauds. Cut the head off the snake and the money to finance jihad disappears along with the war.

trump is right to prevent muslims migrating

Yes,he is,but he is not the only one saying it by any means. He's just the only prominent politician saying it. BUT....,you have to take into consideration that Trump is a con man and salesman,and his job has always been to tell the suckers what they want to hear. Then he takes their money and runs,and leaves other people to clean up the mess behind him. He's saying what he needs to say to stay in the campaign,and to get paid while puffing up his ego. Essentially,he is getting paid to tell people how wonderful he is in all respects. For him,that's like being in heaven.

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