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Title: Hilarious Blacksmith Uses Science To Shut Down Insane ‘Fire Can’t Melt Steel’ 9/11 Truthers
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URL Source: http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/17 ... -cant-melt-steel-911-truthers/
Published: Dec 17, 2015
Author: The Federalist Staff
Post Date: 2015-12-17 14:38:47 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 16920
Comments: 60

Give this man a medal. In just two minutes, blacksmith Trenton Tye of Purgatory Ironworks uses science to hilarious effect to mock 9/11 truthers who insist the 2001 terrorist attacks were a conspiracy. And why are these nutters convinced the whole thing was an inside job? Because fire can’t melt steel (Seriously, read through that entire 9/11 conspiracy theory thread. It is amazing.)

Tye, a professional metalworker based in Georgia, has had enough. He filmed the following video to prove to science-hating 9/11 conspiracy mongers once and for all that structural steel will absolutely lose its structural integrity if it gets too hot:

“So I am taking time out of my busy day to try to put to rest one of the more moronic things I have seen on the Internet lately, and that’s saying something,” Tye tells the camera. “‘Jet fuel only burns at 1,500 degrees and since steel melts at 2,700 degrees, 9/11 was a conspiracy!'”

“What I am upset about is the retarded metallurgical things that you guys are saying. I’m not arguing the facts,” Tye says. “Jet fuel does in fact burn at 1,500 degrees. Some carbon steels will start melting at 2,300 degrees. But if you hold this up as a reason for conspiracy, you are an idiot!”

To prove his point, Tye compared the structural strength of a room-temperature piece of steel to the strength of one that had been heated to 1,800 degrees in his workshop’s furnace.

“It’s very hot, but not melted,” Tye notes by tapping the piece of steel on an anvil.

“Half-inch solid steel. Check it out,” Tye says as he bends the solid steel rod back and forth using only his pinkie finger. “It’s a freakin’ noodle!”

“Your argument is invalid. Get over it!” Tye exclaims as he drops the mic by dropping the glowing steel rod. “Find a job!”

We salute you, Trenton Tye. You are a real American hero. Godspeed.

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#6. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

In the twin towers, much of the jet fuel (primarily kerosene) was burned in a huge fireball outside the building. In any case, the steel was much, much begger than 1/2 inch steel, and Tye does not explain how 110 stories, over 1,000 feet of it, was weakened to a noodle state.

How did a fire on the 90th floor weaken the huge beams on the 80th, or 60th, or 40th floor? If the whole steel structure acted like a heat sink, there was not enough fire to get them hot. If not, the lower steel was simply not affected.

The fall of the buildings was at near free fall acceleration. This is difficult to explain unless the bottom steel structure essentially offered near zero resistance.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-12-17   23:13:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

In the twin towers, much of the jet fuel (primarily kerosene) was burned in a huge fireball outside the building. In any case, the steel was much, much begger than 1/2 inch steel, and Tye does not explain how 110 stories, over 1,000 feet of it, was weakened to a noodle state.

You only need to weaken a few floors. Once they start pancaking downward, it's all over.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-18   4:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#7)

You only need to weaken a few floors. Once they start pancaking downward, it's all over.

I disagree. Here is why. Say a few floors did get weakened. Then the path of least resistance is not straight down. It is to fall over.

That is how I see it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-18   12:15:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Then the path of least resistance is not straight down. It is to fall over.

Mmmmm...the path of least resistance is always straight down. There's this thing called gravity.

Things only fall over because one side of an object (a tower) fails first. And that does make sense.

However, in the case of the Towers, their structural strength was all in the central support columns. The entire building hung on those. So any collapse had to start from the center. Therefore, you get pancaking which started downward and whose force will only get stronger with each floor that pancaked down as the sheer mass and inertia grew with each floor that collapsed. It only takes a few floors pancaking to make the whole tower pancake to the ground.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-18   18:46:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TooConservative (#19)

in the case of the Towers, their structural strength was all in the central support columns. The entire building hung on those.

The entire building hung on those... and they were destroyed by the airplane. It was a novel design that wasn't made to withstand attack from massive airliners.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-18   23:22:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: rlk (#41)

The entire building hung on those... and they were destroyed by the airplane. It was a novel design that wasn't made to withstand attack from massive airliners.

More bucking follocks.

That was filmed in the 1980's

The B-25 Empire State Building crash was a 1945 aircraft accident in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City, crashed into the Empire State Building. The accident did not compromise the building's structural integrity, but it did cause fourteen deaths (three crewmen and eleven people in the building) and damage estimated at $1,000,000 ($13,000,000 in 2014 dollars) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

Anyone remember the "Cold War"? No one imagined that an airplane could attack NY or DC. Right. There were probably no anti aircraft batteries around the Pentagon. Because no one could have imagined an airplane attacking the pentagon. Oh my sides. I've hurt myself laughing. Really. There's a weird pain in my tummy. Help me.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-12-19   0:19:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#45. To: Operation 40 (#44)

Fucking Truther crackpots and contrarian nutjobs.

This is exactly why sane people refuse to "discuss" 9/11 with you assholes.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-19 03:00:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Operation 40 (#44)

If that were a real pic of the NY Empire State bld King Kong would be on it.

Shoo Truther.

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