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Title: Hilarious Blacksmith Uses Science To Shut Down Insane ‘Fire Can’t Melt Steel’ 9/11 Truthers
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URL Source: http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/17 ... -cant-melt-steel-911-truthers/
Published: Dec 17, 2015
Author: The Federalist Staff
Post Date: 2015-12-17 14:38:47 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 17389
Comments: 60

Give this man a medal. In just two minutes, blacksmith Trenton Tye of Purgatory Ironworks uses science to hilarious effect to mock 9/11 truthers who insist the 2001 terrorist attacks were a conspiracy. And why are these nutters convinced the whole thing was an inside job? Because fire can’t melt steel (Seriously, read through that entire 9/11 conspiracy theory thread. It is amazing.)

Tye, a professional metalworker based in Georgia, has had enough. He filmed the following video to prove to science-hating 9/11 conspiracy mongers once and for all that structural steel will absolutely lose its structural integrity if it gets too hot:

“So I am taking time out of my busy day to try to put to rest one of the more moronic things I have seen on the Internet lately, and that’s saying something,” Tye tells the camera. “‘Jet fuel only burns at 1,500 degrees and since steel melts at 2,700 degrees, 9/11 was a conspiracy!'”

“What I am upset about is the retarded metallurgical things that you guys are saying. I’m not arguing the facts,” Tye says. “Jet fuel does in fact burn at 1,500 degrees. Some carbon steels will start melting at 2,300 degrees. But if you hold this up as a reason for conspiracy, you are an idiot!”

To prove his point, Tye compared the structural strength of a room-temperature piece of steel to the strength of one that had been heated to 1,800 degrees in his workshop’s furnace.

“It’s very hot, but not melted,” Tye notes by tapping the piece of steel on an anvil.

“Half-inch solid steel. Check it out,” Tye says as he bends the solid steel rod back and forth using only his pinkie finger. “It’s a freakin’ noodle!”

“Your argument is invalid. Get over it!” Tye exclaims as he drops the mic by dropping the glowing steel rod. “Find a job!”

We salute you, Trenton Tye. You are a real American hero. Godspeed.

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#6. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

In the twin towers, much of the jet fuel (primarily kerosene) was burned in a huge fireball outside the building. In any case, the steel was much, much begger than 1/2 inch steel, and Tye does not explain how 110 stories, over 1,000 feet of it, was weakened to a noodle state.

How did a fire on the 90th floor weaken the huge beams on the 80th, or 60th, or 40th floor? If the whole steel structure acted like a heat sink, there was not enough fire to get them hot. If not, the lower steel was simply not affected.

The fall of the buildings was at near free fall acceleration. This is difficult to explain unless the bottom steel structure essentially offered near zero resistance.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-12-17   23:13:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

In the twin towers, much of the jet fuel (primarily kerosene) was burned in a huge fireball outside the building. In any case, the steel was much, much begger than 1/2 inch steel, and Tye does not explain how 110 stories, over 1,000 feet of it, was weakened to a noodle state.

You only need to weaken a few floors. Once they start pancaking downward, it's all over.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-18   4:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#7)

You only need to weaken a few floors. Once they start pancaking downward, it's all over.

I disagree. Here is why. Say a few floors did get weakened. Then the path of least resistance is not straight down. It is to fall over.

That is how I see it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-18   12:15:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#14)

Say a few floors did get weakened. Then the path of least resistance is not straight down. It is to fall over.

Bingo. And, at the lower floors, the steel was bigger and stronger.

I note that this does not explain what did happen, only something that did not happen.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-12-18   22:16:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#34)

at the lower floors, the steel was bigger and stronger.

The cumulative falling ... weight - force increases --- so what !

There was one corner of a building stairwell where there were survivors !

BorisY  posted on  2015-12-18   22:32:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BorisY (#38)

at the lower floors, the steel was bigger and stronger.

Bigger, stronger steel provides greater resistance, not no resistance. It provides much more resistance than air.

If the floors provided no resistance to the downforce, what created the horizontal force that ejected steel beams that were found in the sides of buildings hundreds of yards away?

nolu chan  posted on  2015-12-18   23:02:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: nolu chan (#40)

what created the horizontal force

Try some physics on a pool table !

BorisY  posted on  2015-12-18 23:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: nolu chan (#40)

what created the horizontal force that ejected steel beams that were found in the sides of buildings hundreds of yards away?

In the video I posted at 27. There is a huge rock hurled at some onlookers. Not a steel beam but the same thing could happen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-19 05:38:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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