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Title: French Socialists, Cuckservatives Shut Out Le Pen’s FN; Astute BBC (!) Comment
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Published: Dec 14, 2015
Author: Patrick Cleburne
Post Date: 2015-12-14 13:32:49 by nativist nationalist
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Reuters reports French far right fails to win any regions: election exit polls By Ingrid Melander and Michel Rose Reuters Sun Dec 13, 2015 Marine Le Pen’s National Front failed to win any regions in French elections on Sunday as Socialist tactical voting handed power in its three main targets to the conservatives of ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy, exit polls showed. Sarkozy’s The Republicans and center-right allies took 57.5 percent of the vote in the northern region against Le Pen’s 42.5 percent, the Ifop Fiducial poll for iTELE, Paris Match and Sud Radio showed… In the southeast, another FN target where Marechal-Le Pen was the FN’s lead candidate, the conservatives scored 54.5 percent and the FN 45.5, the poll said. In the eastern region, where the Socialists did not withdraw but where the FN also did well in the first round, the center right won 48.4 percent against the FN’s 36.4 percent, according to a separate poll by TNS-Sofres- One Point. Steve Sailer predicted and explained this result on Saturday in The Odds Against Le Pen It’s basic median voter theorem: in a two party race, it’s hard for the right to beat the center-right. The French Cuckservative leader Nicholas Sarkozy sounded not entirely happy …calling the strong FN showing a “warning sent to all politicians, ourselves included, in the first round…We now have to take the time for in-depth debates about what worries the French…” he said, citing Europe, unemployment, security and identity issues. Surprisingly, despite a tendentious headline, the dogmatically leftist BBC allowed a penetrating and astute comment by their Paris correspondent, Hugh Schofield There can be no hiding that the results of the elections are a big personal blow to Marine Le Pen… But in a way that suits her fine. Because what it all means is that nothing in France has changed. The two main parties continue sharing out the goodies (in this case deliberately conniving to keep hers as well). Meanwhile unemployment rises; terror stalks; the grim insurrectionary mood continues to spread. Marine’s prospects for power may be limited, but her appeal is as strong as ever for France’s growing numbers of disgruntled and disaffected. That French “ouf” of relief? It’s also the noise you make when you get a fist in the abdomen. Quite likely this will cost Schofield his job. 
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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
You can ignore and suppress the people's concerns for a long time. But over time the ranks of the disaffected grow and grow. And eventually, when they are the majority, you try to ignore them for the last time. But they will not be ignored. So you try to suppress them. And then you discover that they are the majority, and include people within your own ranks. And then your system of law and government is swept away, not according to YOUR rules, but according to the rules of those who are more powerful than you. Generally speaking, this is a good time for you to leave the country, and usually they will let you out with your lives, but never with your property. They keep that. And because of your long tenure, you've accumulated a lot of it. This has been the pattern again and again...in England, in America, in France, in Russia, in Mexico, in China, in Southeast Asia, in Cuba, and again and again and again. What's surprising is that nobody in power ever seems to learn from it. For example: Sarkhozy says "We now have to take the time for in-depth debates about what worries the French". Those debates will be held, but the positions of the two sides are fundamentally incompatible, and demand concessions neither will make. So it has to end with Sarkozy's side declaring their victory and continuing with what they want to do.
This has been the pattern again and again...in England, in America, in France, in Russia, in Mexico, in China, in Southeast Asia, in Cuba, and again and again and again. Acute observation. What's surprising is that nobody in power ever seems to learn from it. I disagree on this. Royalty and those in power have been escaping with their ill-gotten gains for centuries,and they are still doing it. The most recent example that comes to mind are a former president of Mexico (Bush Crime Family Goombas) that fled Mexico ahead of arrest and gained asylum in France after they were discovered to be receiving pay-offs from a drug cartel. IIRC,they also managed to steal a couple of billion from the Mexican treasury on their way out the door. This is who JEB's wife was visiting in Paris when she was busted for trying to smuggle jewelry and furs into the US without paying customs dues on them.
Generally speaking, this is a good time for you to leave the country, and usually they will let you out with your lives, but never with your property. -- Vicomte Sneakypete ---I disagree on this. Royalty and those in power have been escaping with their ill-gotten gains for centuries,and they are still doing it. If/when our system collapses, -- You can bet your bottom dollar that our 'royalty' will escape to well prepared hide-always, all over the world. But the average billionaire can kiss his ass goodby.. -- They really do believe they're immune from catastrophes, from all political indications...
But the average billionaire can kiss his ass goodby.. -- They really do believe they're immune from catastrophes, from all political indications... Not really. They have bodyguards,private planes,private helicopters to fly them out of the big cities,and even yachts in marinas to take them off shore. I don't know where the most popular spots for refuge are now,but 10 years or so ago,countries in South America were very popular amongst the uber wealthy like the Bush Crime Family,Sylvester Stallone,and others. Stallone and a bunch of others whose names I can't remember right now bought up huge land tracts in Argentina,and the Bush Crime Family,IIRC,bought a huge ranch in Paraguay that was right next to a army base. South and Central America are popular becuase the miilitary serve as a police force in most of them,and they can always be counted on to surround the rances and estates of the wealthy and protect them from any unrest. These people can be gone in a instant. A large chunk of their wealth is parked in offshore/foreign banks,so they don't even have to waste any time shifting assets. Private helicopter to the local private airport or marina,jump on the private jet or yacht,and in just a few minutes you are out of reach.
#9. To: sneakypete (#8)
For awhile. But if you track forward the arc of exiles over the course of history, it is actually quite consistent. The source of their wealth has always been industries and trades and land and finance WITHIN a country. Of course gold is fungible and transportable, and they have property abroad, and it is liquid. When revolution comes, they flee to a safe haven, where they have money and comfort. They flee and plot their return from exile. Now, some do return. Sometimes revolutions are reversed. But usually they are not reversed. What happens then is that the aged Idi Amin, or the aging Bokassa, or the aging Shah, etc., lives in comfort in the country of his exile and asylum. He has his wealth and his next, but his SECURITY is really dependent on the government of the state to which he has fled. He was top dog in HIS country, but whatever country he flees to, he will not be top dog there. He is an exotic guest, a protected pet. Host nations of exile do not share power with the exiles. The exiles are not FROM there. THEIR power was back in their home land, and they have been torn up by the roots from that. The stalk, stem, flower all look the same, but underground the transplanted billionaire or ruler has only the barest of roots. He does not have his tendrils of influence all over the country of his exile. He has his loyalist guards around him, and in his own country, they inspired fear because they could kill with impunity. Not so in the country of exile. In the country of exile, the exile is distinguished, and is allowed his entourage and private guard, but if they KILL anybody, or damage property, they're just rich foreigners. The Bokassa type may not be arrested, but his chauffeur or bodyguard will be. There are also the temptations of the surrounding society for the guards, for the hangers on, even for the family of the exile. He has the power that money will give, but it is literally the power of the lottery winner: whatever money can buy, he can buy, but he has no power to instill fear or compel the corrupt deals that REALLY empower the Bokassas and Amins. His money supply is now finite, and dwindling...with inflation, with taxation in the new country, with the inflated prices for luxury goods that the local French or whomever charge HIM and HIS WIFE. They'll give gowns and perks to Sarkozy's wife, because SHE is part of the network of deep roots in that country, but the dictator in exile, the super-rich exile - he doesn't have the apparatus of state with him. In fact, he is a liability to the host country, for the host country still has ties with the country from which the exile fled, and that country is always agitating for his return. Now perhaps France, or wherever, never returns Bokassa or Amin or the Shah. But they always COULD - the exile's position is precarious. And as exiles age, they need medical care - state of the art care that can only be gotten in an handful of countries. Meanwhile, time goes on, and the host country always has a greater long term interest in good relations with the nation whence the exile fled. France doesn;t send Bokassa back, BUT ongoing relations with the Central African Republic are of MUCH greater interest to the French power elite than returning some failed dictator to his former power. Hard work and talent can make a man a millionaire, but billionaires have connections, power, monopoly - and those things come from a national government. Rip him up and put him elsewhere, and his power, money, everything dwindles. Perhaps he lives out his life in relative comfort, with various pleasures, but he is surrounded by spies, he cannot launch new powerful business ventures because he is hemmed in by the more powerful elite of his host country. He has become a pawn out of play, nothing more. And he can always be handed back, if the price is right. Snowden isn't rich, but it doesn't matter. He is secure in his Russian liberty UNTIL somebody like Trump makes a grand deal with Vladimir Putin. Then Putin will decide the value of a Snowden. Now, it may be that the master spy decides that, to encourage FUTURE spies and defections, NOT handing over Snowden would serve the national interests better than giving him up. But it's Putin's decision, not Snowden's. That is the position of every exile, however rich. He has come into the realm of other richer people with more power. They will not allow him to challenge him on their turf. So all he can with his money is what a lottery winner can do - nothing more. He may live out his life span, but his children and onward will be diminished, will have less, will revert to the mean. There are still exiled princes from various royal houses in parts of Europe. They have the glamor of title, but they don't have power; nor do they have anything like the wealth their illustrious parents and grandparents did. The jet setting international elite can only continue to accrue power as long as they have their home country out of which to operate. Once they are torn up from there, they are still wealthy, but they go into irreversible decline if they cannot get their home country back.
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#5. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
Generally speaking, this is a good time for you to leave the country, and usually they will let you out with your lives, but never with your property. They keep that. And because of your long tenure, you've accumulated a lot of it.
#7. To: sneakypete, Vicomte 13, y'all (#5)
And then your system of law and government is swept away, not according to YOUR rules, but according to the rules of those who are more powerful than you.
#8. To: tpaine (#7)
If/when our system collapses, -- You can bet your bottom dollar that our 'royalty' will escape to well prepared hide-always, all over the world.
Replies to Comment # 8. These people can be gone in a instant. A large chunk of their wealth is parked in offshore/foreign banks,so they don't even have to waste any time shifting assets. Private helicopter to the local private airport or marina,jump on the private jet or yacht,and in just a few minutes you are out of reach.
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