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Title: French Socialists, Cuckservatives Shut Out Le Pen’s FN; Astute BBC (!) Comment
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/posts/french-s ... -le-pens-fn-astute-bbc-comment
Published: Dec 14, 2015
Author: Patrick Cleburne
Post Date: 2015-12-14 13:32:49 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 4868
Comments: 40


FN's Marion Marechal-Le Pen: The future belongs to her

Reuters reports French far right fails to win any regions: election exit polls By Ingrid Melander and Michel Rose Reuters Sun Dec 13, 2015

Marine Le Pen’s National Front failed to win any regions in French elections on Sunday as Socialist tactical voting handed power in its three main targets to the conservatives of ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy, exit polls showed.

Sarkozy’s The Republicans and center-right allies took 57.5 percent of the vote in the northern region against Le Pen’s 42.5 percent, the Ifop Fiducial poll for iTELE, Paris Match and Sud Radio showed…

In the southeast, another FN target where Marechal-Le Pen was the FN’s lead candidate, the conservatives scored 54.5 percent and the FN 45.5, the poll said.

In the eastern region, where the Socialists did not withdraw but where the FN also did well in the first round, the center right won 48.4 percent against the FN’s 36.4 percent, according to a separate poll by TNS-Sofres- One Point.

Steve Sailer predicted and explained this result on Saturday in The Odds Against Le Pen

It’s basic median voter theorem: in a two party race, it’s hard for the right to beat the center-right.

The French Cuckservative leader Nicholas Sarkozy sounded not entirely happy

…calling the strong FN showing a “warning sent to all politicians, ourselves included, in the first round…We now have to take the time for in-depth debates about what worries the French…” he said, citing Europe, unemployment, security and identity issues.

Surprisingly, despite a tendentious headline, the dogmatically leftist BBC allowed a penetrating and astute comment by their Paris correspondent, Hugh Schofield

There can be no hiding that the results of the elections are a big personal blow to Marine Le Pen…

But in a way that suits her fine.

Because what it all means is that nothing in France has changed. The two main parties continue sharing out the goodies (in this case deliberately conniving to keep hers as well).

Meanwhile unemployment rises; terror stalks; the grim insurrectionary mood continues to spread.

Marine’s prospects for power may be limited, but her appeal is as strong as ever for France’s growing numbers of disgruntled and disaffected.

That French “ouf” of relief? It’s also the noise you make when you get a fist in the abdomen.

Quite likely this will cost Schofield his job. (1 image)

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#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)

Because what it all means is that nothing in France has changed.

Nor will it change because of the childish French mind. The French are good at making messes, then crying about it. They cry, but they don't learn.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-14   15:02:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rlk (#2)

Nor will it change because of the childish French mind. The French are good at making messes, then crying about it. They cry, but they don't learn.

What "mess" have the French, specifically, made that we and the rest of the West have not made?

What lessons have WE learned?

What distinguishes us at all from the French?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-12-14   16:34:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Nor will it change because of the childish French mind. The French are good at making messes, then crying about it. They cry, but they don't learn.

What "mess" have the French, specifically, made that we and the rest of the West have not made?

What lessons have WE learned?

What distinguishes us at all from the French?

I'm glad you brought that up. The French (and Germans) are setting an example in incompetence that we are following. Right now they are a little ahead of us in implementing stupidity. Eventually we'll exceed them.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-14   23:19:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rlk (#11)

I'm glad you brought that up. The French (and Germans) are setting an example in incompetence that we are following. Right now they are a little ahead of us in implementing stupidity. Eventually we'll exceed them.

Well, the way I see it, the French have a much better legal system, a much better health insurance system, a health care system that is at the same level as ours, a much better general education system, a more advanced energy grid (nuclear vs. coal plants), a better national transport system, and a better retirement system.

So I'm not sure where the stupidity and incompetence is.

Certainly there is a moral collapse from sex, that results in contracepting away the future and having to import people to fill the gap. And that really is stupid, but we're actually further down the demographic death spiral curve than the French are. So again, I don't see the incompetence of which you speak.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-12-14   23:58:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12) (Edited)

So again, I don't see the incompetence of which you speak.

I thik you will gain your ability to see if you talk to the people who were killed in the recent jihadist terrorist attacks or take an evening walk through islamic jihadist controlled areas that are forbidden to outsiders.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-15   0:12:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rlk (#13)

>islamic jihadist controlled areas

That doesn't exist you slobbering dote. Stop getting your information from obscure propaganda websites or Fox News.

Have you ever even BEEN to France or KNOWN a French person?

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-12-15   7:35:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: ebonytwix (#14)

Have you ever even BEEN to France or KNOWN a French person?

Yup!

rlk  posted on  2015-12-16   1:16:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: rlk (#36)

I don't believe it.

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-12-16   1:31:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ebonytwix (#37)

I don't believe it.

What you do not, or do, believe is irrelevant. I don't build my life according to the belief or nonbelief of verbose halfwits.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-16   18:07:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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