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Title: So much for running out of OIL!
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Published: Dec 14, 2015
Author: Me
Post Date: 2015-12-14 09:04:14 by Justified
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I remember people claiming we were running out of oil. That we have reached "peak production".

Oil just broke the $35 a barrel with no end in sight of slowing production!

Saudi's have declared war on America. They will destroy shale oil business because its kicking their butt. America was independent of its grip for the first time in my life time. Obama is happy big little oil is getting raped by the Saudi's.

I believe oil can be drilled for $30 a barrel and break even.

I believe oil can be pumped out of the ground for $14 a barrel and break even.

Get ready to see defaults in the small oil companies because $25 a barrel is coming.

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#1. To: Justified (#0)

I believe oil can be drilled for $30 a barrel and break even.

You can believe the world is flat but that doesn't make it so.

The shale oil guys keep saying that their breakeven is $65/bl. They continue to pump the oil they have at a loss, hoping to outlast the bad prices. But more and more of them are zombie companies in the red. And no one has money to launch more exploration or develop new wells. This is the Saudi goal. They only have to do it for a few years to squash American production in the short term.

The Saudis continue to pump way below cost, subsidizing oil exports to around $100 billion a year. They supposedly have a cash surplus of $700-$800 billion in loose cash they can use to subsidize their oil losses and cripple American oil production.

They want all that exploration to stop and, for wells already pumping, they want to see the inevitable decline in production from such wells. Then it will be time for the Saudis to jack the price back up. But they have to worry that they can't ever go back to $100/bl again without seeing the American oil industry make another big comeback with new wells.

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#3. To: TooConservative (#1)

I believe you have it right about the Saudi's and their intentions.

I think the cost of getting shale oil is much lower than $65 a barrel break even(not counting ocean rigs).

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#4. To: Justified (#3)

I believe you have it right about the Saudi's and their intentions.

I think the cost of getting shale oil is much lower than $65 a barrel break even(not counting ocean rigs).

Yeah. But it is still stupid.

Why lose money when you don't have to? How many years will it take them to make it back up if TC is correct?

If a bunch of our guys go out of business. That isn't good. But when prices rise again there will be people doing shale again. So the Saudis gain nothing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-14   9:54:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Why lose money when you don't have to? How many years will it take them to make it back up if TC is correct?

If a bunch of our guys go out of business. That isn't good. But when prices rise again there will be people doing shale again. So the Saudis gain nothing.

They strangle the baby in the crib, just like they did in the 80's. When oil was at $100 per bbl everyone was screaming "DRILL DRILL DRILL, but once the results of shale force the Saudi dirtbags to flood the markets, folks just want to reap the bonanza and let the devil take the hindmost. Americans are like the monkeys that had a leaky roof, when it was raining they could not patch it, and when the weather was nice there were better things to do than to patch the roof.

And we lose money as taxpayers in the bargain defending the Saudi oil. The Muddle East will be stuck to us like tarbaby because we'll need the oil. Better to place tariffs on imported oil to cover our military costs, we will pay more and OPEC will get less, the difference going into the coffers of the US government so the Saudis no longer get a free ride on the back of the American taxpayer.

My vision is that we need less oil from them each year, while they are forced to liquidate their investments in America to finance a Sunni-Shia 30 years war. I'd gladly pay another 50 cents per gallon at the pump to see that, and anyway it would just be a change in where the taxes are collected, because I'm already paying for those military costs through the income tax.

If we're going to be at war with Islam, the whole nation needs to be at war, not just the military. Economic warfare does that, the Saudis are already waging economic war against us, just like the chicoms are. We just don't fight back.

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