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Opinions/Editorials Title: Imagine If Donald Trump Ran As A Democrat — It’s Not Too Hard To Do Imagine for a moment if Donald Trump made the decision to run for president as a Democrat instead of as a Republican. As Trump-mania continues to dominate the Republican presidential primary, its not hard to envision an alternate reality one where the real estate billionaire is taking the country by storm as a Democrat. In many ways, it would have been easier for Trump to enter the Democratic primary than the Republican primary. Trump was registered as a Democrat from 2001 to 2009 and donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic candidates like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid over the years. (In fairness, he has donated a lot of money to Republican candidates as well.) As a native of liberal New York City, its not surprising that Trump has a much longer record of being pro-choice than he does of being pro-life. I support a womans right to choose, he said on NBCs Meet the Press in 2000. Trump was never a staunch opponent of gay marriage either until recently. In fact, Rick Santorum says that Trump chided him in 2011 for being too hard-core on gay marriage and abortion. I dont know anyone that shares that opinion with you, Santorum said Trump told him. So its not too hard to envision Trump running as a socially liberal Democrat. Indeed, it would seemingly be a far easier act for the thrice-married New Yorker to pull off than convincing evangelicals that he is staunchly pro-life and against gay marriage. On foreign policy, Trump isnt all that different from Barack Obama. To the extent his foreign policy worldview is comprehensible, he comes across as the least hawkish candidate in the GOP field, with the possible exception of Rand Paul, even though rhetoric sometimes masks this. While he says he wants to increase military spending and bomb the shit out of ISIS, he regularly makes the case for reducing Americas leadership role in world affairs and focusing on nation building at home. Ill tell you what, there is going to be nation building. You know what the nations going to be? The United States, thats what the nations going to be, Trump told me in September, speaking of his foreign policy outlook. As Trump also repeatedly highlights, he opposed the Iraq war (though the first evidence of this comes from 2004, over a year after the war began). Such a position is far more endearing to the Democratic base than Hillary Clintons support for the military action that removed Saddam from power. Trump wouldnt be out of place on economic issues in a Democratic primary either. At this anti-Wall Street moment, Trump could paint himself as the insider who is ready to turn enemy of his class for the good of the country. Whats more, Trump has a record of favoring proposals that would be far more vexing to the one percent than anything Bernie Sanders has proposed. In 1999, Trump proposed a one-time 14.25 percent tax on wealthy Americans and trusts over $10 million. Even now he doesnt back away from that proposal philosophically, even though he says he doesnt intend to pursue it in the White House. At that time we could have paid off the entire national debt and we could have started the game all even, Trump told Sean Hannity in August, noting that the proposal was actually very conservative. Trump is also a supporter of universal health care, if not Obamacare. I am going to take care of everybody, Trump said on 60 Minutes in September. I dont care if it costs me votes or not. Everybodys going to be taken care of much better than theyre taken care of now. Trump even praised the single payer health care programs of Canada and Scotland during the first Republican presidential debate in August. As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland, it could have worked in a different age, which is the age you are talking about here, Trump said when asked by the moderators about his past support for single payer health care. Of course Trump would have had to made the strategic decision to position himself to run in 2016 as a Democrat way back in 2010, before he went on his birther kick. You probably cant win a Democratic primary as one of the leading birthers in the country. His rhetoric on immigration also wouldnt fly in a Democratic primary. But if he made the decision to position himself as a Democrat contender back in 2010, he would never have called for the deportation of all the illegal immigrants in the country. In fact, after Mitt Romney lost in 2012, Trump criticized the Republican contenders rhetoric on immigration as mean-spirited, which suggests Trumps instincts on illegal immigration may be less harsh than what we are seeing today The Democrats didnt have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they werent mean-spirited about it, Trump told Newsmax. They didnt know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind. But if Trump made the decision to run as a Democrat in 2010, he may be even better positioned to win the Democratic presidential nomination today than he is to win the Republican nomination. The Democratic field is far smaller and with Joe Bidens decision to not enter the race, there is no candidate opposing Hillary Clinton who people can actually imagine winning the nomination, even if Sanders could potentially threaten her in a few states. Trump may have been that guy. He could have successfully branded Clinton as untrustworthy and even criminal over her email scandal and shady Clinton Foundation dealings, just like he negatively branded so many of his GOP foes. And it very well may have worked, just like it seems to have worked with low-energy Jeb Bush. So it doesnt take too much of an imagination to envision a world where Donald Trump is on the verge of winning the Democratic nomination. In fact, it may even be far easier to get your head around than our current reality. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 4.
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To address the article more, I would observe that Trump's biggest fan base is in the Northeast and eastern seaboard. That is where he is best known, most admired for his business deals, where his TV show was always the most popular. So Trump is most popular in northeast liberal states where voters would sooner elect a dead cat president than a Republican. Of course, that cuts both ways. Trump might arguably be able to win Pennsylvania and a few other purple states that seem perpetually out of reach for the GOP since Reagan. And no one knows how many inactive voters might turn out for Trump that wouldn't turn out for any other GOP (or Dem) pol. It might be a larger number than anyone thinks possible. I think Trump is a Dem running as a GOP, just like Bloomberg ran for mayor as a Republican, except he was also a lifelong Dem who, even after being elected as a Republican, still kept giving huge amounts to Dem pols and hanging out with them constantly. Oh, wait, Trump also kept giving large amounts to Dems after he became a Republican, including the Xlinton Foundation so Billy and Hilly would show up for Trump's third marriage to another foreign bimbo. Trump really isn't a Republican. He's a Dem that couldn't get elected by the Democrat party. Like Bloomberg. But more than that, Trump is Trump. His ego is far too large to be contained by either political party. I think a lot of support Trump is getting is a way for the party base to flip off the party bosses and GOPe. As primaries draw near, Iowa and New Hampshire are going to take a very hard look at Trump. He's made a number of statements that indicate he knows almost nothing about Christianity of any flavor and still crudely attacked the faith and denomination of other GOP candidates. He's flipflopped from extreme pro-abortion to pro-life and extreme antigun positions to saying he's pro-gun. Trump has not yet faced the RKBA and hardcore pro-lifers. Nor has anyone talked much about his choices for the Court but we already know he wants to appoint justices like his sister, a federal judge and extreme pro-abortion activist on the bench. I just think that has to catch up with Trump sooner than later. Unless he can tap into the Perot effect -- "oh, look, a rich old White Knight will save us all from those evil politicians" -- and turn out an army of new voters to support him, Trump will face some days of reckoning with the voters.
I think you don't get Trump is for Trump, he uses the media so that everyone is focused on him and no other candidates get any air, In this way he makes them appear mediocre, he will have most of them drop out before the first primary, he puts out extreme views and tests the support. He may draw voters away from the democrats because everyone is looking for an alternative
Yeah, I think I guessed that a while back. : )
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