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War in Ukraine Turns on Russia what happened during total solar eclipse Israel Attacks Iran, Report Says - LIVE Breaking News Coverage Earth is Scorched with Heat Antiwar Activists Chant ‘Death to America’ at Event Featuring Chicago Alderman Vibe Shift A stream that makes the pleasant Rain sound. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Trump: I'm an evangelical, Cruz is Cuban Source: Washington Examiner URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t ... ticle/2578224?custom_click=rss Published: Dec 12, 2015 Author: Anna Giaritelli Post Date: 2015-12-12 09:41:10 by Willie Green Keywords: None Views: 10686 Comments: 62 Donald Trump tweeted Friday morning that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was planning an attack on him. He then questioned Cruz's religion and ties to Big Oil in comments Friday night. "I am an evangelical. I'm a Christian. I'm a Presbyterian," Trump said to an Iowa town hall rally. In contrast, he said that while he personally liked Cruz, "not a lot of evangelicals come out of Cuba, in all fairness." Trump may be feeling pressure from Cruz after the Texas senator snatched first place from the billionaire in a Monmouth University Poll released Monday. Cruz is also ranked first in the Washington Examiner's power rankings. Trump went on to criticize Cruz's opposition to ethanol, saying it was because the first-term senator is loyal to the Lone Star state's oil industry who "give him a lot of money." But for all the tough talk, Trump didn't say whether he would or wouldn't consider taking Cruz on as his vice president should he win the party's nomination. There are less than two months until the Feb. 1 Iowa Caucus. Cruz and Trump's campaigns have said they will focus that time on connecting with voters in the primary state. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 47. #1. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited) I haven't heard Presbyterians -- which Trump claims to be -- ever saying that they are evangelicals. They do admit to being Protestants. It seemed like just another half-baked non-newsworthy remark by Trump that is getting way more media attention than it deserves. I would like for someone to directly ask Trump if he is a sinner and has ever asked God for forgiveness or salvation through Christ. I expect someone will get around to it, sooner than later. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-12   10:07:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: TooConservative (#1) I haven't heard Presbyterians -- which Trump claims to be -- ever saying that they are evangelicals. They do admit to being Protestants. Well, of course they are Protestants, but I can't see how it can be said they are Evangelical. I have to wonder if Trump even knows what that means. Trump has looked masterful for most of his campaign on his attacks and counter-attacks, but these attacks on Cruz just look clumsy and mean. What's more, Cruz isn't taking the bait. Trump needs to go after Hillary. no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-12   12:17:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: no gnu taxes, tomder55 (#7) I have to wonder if Trump even knows what that means. I think somebody like Roger Stone huddled with Trump over martinis, telling him the rubes will love him if he's all evangelicky. Trump has a strange reluctance to discuss his own religion but seems to want to make fun of devout Adventists like Carson and Southern Baptists like Cruz. I think it wears thin and Trump doesn't hold in Iowa. Then he looks weak in NH against Christie (who really is the kind of guy that NH will like). Then all he has is South Carolina but only as long as he keeps up his evangelicky schtick for the rubes and hillbillies. And Trump won't be getting all the free media then that he's been getting. It won't be so easy to utter some bilge and get a lot of attention. I recall Giuliani at 65% approval rating in the fall of 2007 but then no one showed up to vote for him. And by the time Florida came along, it was all over. And Trump won't even have Florida to contest. There will be other deep Southern states, all in a row. And Cruz has good organization in nearly all of them. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-12   13:08:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: TooConservative (#8) I recall Giuliani at 65% approval rating in the fall of 2007 but then no one showed up to vote for him Only dumb asses believed Rudy had any chance at all. Rudy is a liberal. With few accomplishments. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-12   17:14:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: A K A Stone (#15) if Rudy is a lib then Pat Buchannan is a Zionist . Only someone who did not live in NYC before Rudy could claim he had few accomplishments. tomder55  posted on  2015-12-12   18:48:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: tomder55 (#17) Only someone who did not live in NYC before Rudy could claim he had few accomplishments. Do you think stop and frisk is unconstitutional and a violation of peoples rights? Do you think a police state to fight crime is a good idea or a bad one? Guiliani was better then Bloomturd though. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-12   19:30:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: A K A Stone (#23) (Edited) Do you think stop and frisk is unconstitutional and a violation of peoples rights? Do you think a police state to fight crime is a good idea or a bad one? The 4th amendment protects against 'unreasonable ' searches . Stop and frisk does not violate that . Stop and frisk was only part of the crack down on quality of life crimes . Before Rudy NYC had become a cesspool of crime. Rudy changed the primary mission of the police department to preventing crime from happening rather than responding to it once it had occurred. Some of the things done was simple police scheduling . Detectives used to clock out at 5 PM ,just as most of the crimes were to occur. His police Commish William Bratton reorganized the NYPD, emphasizing a street crimes unit that moved around the city, flooding high-crime areas. He also brought modern management techniques to the force . It began compiling a computerized database ( Compstat)to track the city’s crime patterns and the effectiveness of the NYPD’s responses to them. You can't argue with the results .There was a historic drop in crime with total crime down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years,, and murder down 67 percent, from 1,960 in Dinky Dinkins’s last year to 640 in Rudy's last year. The number of cars stolen in New York City every year plummeted by 78,000. What libs fail to mention in their critique of his policing policies is that civilian complaints of excessive force by the NYPD declined from one complaint per ten officers to one per 19 officers. Meanwhile, shootings by cops declined by 50 percent and were far lower under Giuliani than under Dinkins ,and in fact lower than cities that boasted about their community policing policies. Those who claim the policies were racist fail to point out that the biggest beneficiaries were the minority communities . Rudy was delivering them equal protection under the law .In the majority Hispanic Washington Heights , murders dropped from 76 in 1993, Dinkins’s last year, to only 7 by Rudy’s last year, a decline of more than 90 percent. But law enforcement was only a part of his management that was conservative .I can discuss welfare reform ,reorganization of city hall ,changing the budget ,providing the climate for new job creation in the city ,the complete restoration of the Time Square area ,tax cuts ,his hard ball negotiations with municipal unions ,his reforms on how city contracts were awarded . Bottom line ,the combination of a safer city and a better budget environment ignited an economic boom. Safer streets meant that city residents would go out at night and spend money in restaurants ,theaters ,and clubs. Tourism soared . The city gained 430,000 new jobs. tomder55  posted on  2015-12-13   5:00:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: tomder55 (#29) You can't argue with the results .There was a historic drop in crime with total crime down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years,, and murder down 67 percent, from 1,960 in Dinky Dinkins’s last year to 640 in Rudy's last year. The number of cars stolen in New York City every year plummeted by 78,000. What libs fail to mention in their critique of his policing policies is that civilian complaints of excessive force by the NYPD declined from one complaint per ten officers to one per 19 officers. Meanwhile, shootings by cops declined by 50 percent and were far lower under Giuliani than under Dinkins ,and in fact lower than cities that boasted about their community policing policies. Those who claim the policies were racist fail to point out that the biggest beneficiaries were the minority communities . Rudy was delivering them equal protection under the law .In the majority Hispanic Washington Heights , murders dropped from 76 in 1993, Dinkins’s last year, to only 7 by Rudy’s last year, a decline of more than 90 percent. I never wanted Rudy to do for America what he did for NYC but there is no arguing with the crime and police stats. Giuliani and Bratton deserve the credit for not only NYC but the revolution in policing across the country. They demonstrated how to make policing work again in metro areas. This is yet another reason why I keep repeating myself: "Giuliani wasn't conservative enough in 2008 but Trump is in 2016?". I just can't believe that and I was quite opposed to Giuliani over gun control and abortion and other liberal positions. Which are the same positions that Trump held for decades until the last year when he suddenly becomes a huge pro-life and gun supporter. Very convenient. But maybe the voters are more captivated by reality TV and The Donald Show than I realize. Perhaps 25%-30% of the GOP base really are that gullible. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-13   7:14:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: TooConservative (#30) I never wanted Rudy to do for America what he did for NYC but there is no arguing with the crime and police stats. Yeah there is. Crime declined in America across the board during that time. There was no Giuliani in Detroit, but crime declined there also in the same time frame. Marion Barry was DC Mayor, and they never had a Giuliani, but crime declined there also. Truth is that three things happened. One is that the country had a sustained period of prosperity and internal stability once Vietnam was was over the hill and gone. Sustained prosperity and stability caused property values to go way up in cities that still had an economic core: the criminals were priced out. The second is more complicated. Crime spiked going into the Giuliani era because of general conditions in the country, but SPECIFICALLY because there were drug turf wars raging in every city as new, very aggressive Latin American drug cartel gangs fought with the older organized crime establishments and each other. It took a few years to sort out, but when crime was going down everywhere, it was because one side won the drug war and killed off or co-opted their rivals. Crime went up because the criminals were at war. It went down because the smartest violent criminals won the war and established themselves as the new bosses. The third is an unpleasant reality. Roe v. Wade became the law of the land in 1973. 1991 was 18 years after Roe. Crime fell steadily and swiftly everywhere in America 18 years after Roe, and stayed lower afterwards, because the cohort of the criminal unborn was nipped in the bud. That's why crime fell in New York, where Giuliani was channelling Mussolini and pretending that it was his aggressive behavior that was doing it. It's why crime fell in Detroit and Cleveland at the same time, even though those cities remained basket cases with utterly corrupt government. In short, Giuliani stood on the beach and crowed most loudly, and took credit for the receding of the tide. Canute was more modest. And the tide went out on the empty beaches too. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-12-13   9:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: Vicomte13 (#32) Truth is that three things happened. You forgot a fourth: the states and the feds cracked down hard on crime by crackheads during that era. The Xlinton era is still held in low regard by many blacks because they consider that the Xlintons locked up a generation of young urban black men. Even so, Giuliani had great results in New York, as with Times Square and other quality-of-life issues. He did a lot of stuff for NYC that pulled it out of the gutter. It had been a basketcase of a city since I was young and Giuliani made a big difference. Bloomberg had the sense to stay the course. De Blasio is just a disaster across the board. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-13   10:23:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: TooConservative (#36) I don't dispute that Giuliani was an effective Mayor of New York. He was very effective. I just wanted to raise some points that puts Giuliani's crime record in perspective. Crime came down in Detroit, which didn't reform at all, during the same period that it came down in New York. It's sort of like global warming. Certainly there is global WARMING. On Mars too! The seasonabl ice caps that used to be there when we were kids used to come a quarter of the way down the planet. They don't any more. Now they're pretty small. Meaning that the Martian globe has heated up. The same is true with our monitoring of Venus. It's hotter and more turbulent than it was. So, Venus, Earth and Mars are indeed hotting up. It's visible on the two other planets. It's visible with the eye on Mars with the drastic reduction in those ice caps. But global warming on Venus and Mars means that the global warming on earth ain't caused by SUVs. Correlation is not causation. I guess that's ultimately my point. Giuliani CAUSED a great deal of renewal in New York, by targeted projects, outreach, an attitude, all that. But the decline in crime that occurred on his watch didn't entirely (or even mostly) occur because of his heavy-handed tactics. He got credit for it because of the timing, but he's an SUV, and he's not causing the ice caps on Mars to diminish. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-12-13   13:44:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 47.         There are no replies to Comment # 47. End Trace Mode for Comment # 47. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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