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Title: Trump: I'm an evangelical, Cruz is Cuban
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Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t ... ticle/2578224?custom_click=rss
Published: Dec 12, 2015
Author: Anna Giaritelli
Post Date: 2015-12-12 09:41:10 by Willie Green
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Views: 10565
Comments: 62
Donald Trump tweeted Friday morning that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was planning an attack on him. He then questioned Cruz's religion and ties to Big Oil in comments Friday night. "I am an evangelical. I'm a Christian. I'm a Presbyterian," Trump said to an Iowa town hall rally. In contrast, he said that while he personally liked Cruz, "not a lot of evangelicals come out of Cuba, in all fairness." Trump may be feeling pressure from Cruz after the Texas senator snatched first place from the billionaire in a Monmouth University Poll released Monday. Cruz is also ranked first in the Washington Examiner's power rankings. Trump went on to criticize Cruz's opposition to ethanol, saying it was because the first-term senator is loyal to the Lone Star state's oil industry who "give him a lot of money." But for all the tough talk, Trump didn't say whether he would or wouldn't consider taking Cruz on as his vice president should he win the party's nomination. There are less than two months until the Feb. 1 Iowa Caucus. Cruz and Trump's campaigns have said they will focus that time on connecting with voters in the primary state.
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)
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I haven't heard Presbyterians -- which Trump claims to be -- ever saying that they are evangelicals. They do admit to being Protestants. It seemed like just another half-baked non-newsworthy remark by Trump that is getting way more media attention than it deserves. I would like for someone to directly ask Trump if he is a sinner and has ever asked God for forgiveness or salvation through Christ. I expect someone will get around to it, sooner than later.
Proddys doing Proddy stuff. If I voted based on religion, I'd be voting for Rubio or Christie. I thought Cruz was Catholic when I first heard about him. Turns out he's some sort of Protestant. I quietly breathed a sigh of relief at that, because I find Cruz to be creepy. That's he's creepy, and Protestant, doesn't mean I won't vote for him. That somebody wouldn't vote for Trump because he's Presbyterian and not their own flavor of Christian seems pretty idiotic, to me. But in some circles the flavor of Christianity is everything. Too bad for them, because little bits and pieces are not going to stand against the rip tides: we need unity. I'm sure that the little bits and pieces think that God will help them and make them victorious, like he did Gideon. But He won't. The difference is that HE chose Gideon. Gideon didn't choose HIMSELF and then declare that God will give his little band the victory. God did the talking, out loud, to let Gideon know - and Gideon was skeptical, even needed the proof of the dew. The little bits and pieces quarrel, infight, turn on themselves, fall apart, reform, claim holiness, and demonstrate neither holiness nor power. Sure, God COULD greatly empower them. But he doesn't, because they're not really listening to him. They're listening to themselves. Anyway, a Presbyterian evangelical is going after an Evangelical Cuban. It's one of those funny sideshows. Best to ignore it. I guess it matters to those to whom it matters. Cruz would be less creepy if he were a Catholic.
It isn't idiotic. Presbyterians support fag marriage.
If he were a Catholic he wouldn't be followingt Gods word. He would be blaspheming God by praying to Mary. He would believe in 9 commandments not 10. Catholics by in large take an unbiblical position of socialism theivery. Taking from the fruits on ones labor (God said the fruits of your labor are yours) and giving it to a deadbeat who God said shouldn't eat if he didn't work. That dosn't mean real Christians shouldn't be charitable to real people in need.
The Donald might seem less creepy if he were Catholic too? Trump waving a Bible around, and looking vaguely like a Jamaica Presby Evangelical. Well, of course they are Protestants, but I can't see how it can be said they are Evangelical. I have to wonder if Trump even knows what that means. Trump has looked masterful for most of his campaign on his attacks and counter-attacks, but these attacks on Cruz just look clumsy and mean. What's more, Cruz isn't taking the bait. Trump needs to go after Hillary. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
I think somebody like Roger Stone huddled with Trump over martinis, telling him the rubes will love him if he's all evangelicky. Trump has a strange reluctance to discuss his own religion but seems to want to make fun of devout Adventists like Carson and Southern Baptists like Cruz. I think it wears thin and Trump doesn't hold in Iowa. Then he looks weak in NH against Christie (who really is the kind of guy that NH will like). Then all he has is South Carolina but only as long as he keeps up his evangelicky schtick for the rubes and hillbillies. And Trump won't be getting all the free media then that he's been getting. It won't be so easy to utter some bilge and get a lot of attention. I recall Giuliani at 65% approval rating in the fall of 2007 but then no one showed up to vote for him. And by the time Florida came along, it was all over. And Trump won't even have Florida to contest. There will be other deep Southern states, all in a row. And Cruz has good organization in nearly all of them.
so then is Trump in favor of turning a food source into a fuel additive, at tax payer's expense ,to cater to a special interest group ? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
How is Cruz creepy? lol and Trump is not? Dude looks like he will stare at you up and down and make uncomfortable advances
I remember Giulliani being all the rage in the summer of 2007, and McCain was in single digits and so short on funds he was lugging his own luggage through airports. Fred Thompson caught on for a while, but quickly faded. Then as the primaries loomed, it was mostly Huckabee and McCain. After McCain won NH, he was pretty much a shoe in. Giulliani bet his whole wad on Florida, ignoring the other states. When he lost there, it was over for him. At least that's the way I recall the 2008 race. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Pretty much my recollection. Iowa swooned for Huck, the libs in NH GOP crossed over to vote for the Stain, the Stain capitalized on his NH win to grab SC and the party coalesced behind him before Florida. Giuliani got the message and dropped out quick.
Beyond that, using corn as fuel is a policy for people who hate poor people who don't have enough to eat, not just in America but in Latin and South America and around the world. Ethanol is a hate product. And it is not environmentally friendly at all.
Fixed it for ya. Only dumb asses believed Rudy had any chance at all. Rudy is a liberal. With few accomplishments.
Until the last year, Rudy was far more conservative than Trump. Now Trump is running around, holier than the pope, questioning the faith of others who have a much longer and more serious record with their churches than Trump ever has. And asserts he's pro-life, after decades of being the most unabashed defender of abortion, including partial-birth abortion. He wrote about this in books and gave interviews. Praised his sister, the federal judge, for her very extreme abortion positions. I still think these things will catch up with Trump. A lot of people supporting him shallowly now will think twice before casting a vote. Pro-lifers and Christian evangelicals in particular. Giuliani didn't skate past them in 2008, I don't think Trump will in 2016.
if Rudy is a lib then Pat Buchannan is a Zionist . Only someone who did not live in NYC before Rudy could claim he had few accomplishments.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I would be shocked if he wasn't. He has no sense of morality at all. ALL he cares about is Trump,money for Trump,and Trump children because he sees them as a continuation of his magnificence. I have been predicting since day 1 that he wouldn't be running after the primaries,and all he is doing now is taking bids behind the scenes to drop out. Assuming of course that the Clintons did hire him to run and then drop out in the first place. After all,they are goobas. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
It boggles the imagination that you could see and say that,and stay blind to Trump,whose only real accomplishments were being born into immense wealth,and draft-dodging. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Do liberals or conservatives vote for McGovern for President? Therein lies your answer.
Bernie Sanders lovers who live in junk yard trailer parks sound real silly claiming Trump never accomplished anything. Next thing you're going to tell me is two men can be married. You sure are covetous of Trump. You think he owes you some of his wealth. You've said so before in so many words. That is why you want to burn for Bernie.
You're lying. Day one you was saying he really wasn't running. Then you said he wasnt filing financials. Then you said he wasn't filing FEC paperwork. Then you said he was afraid to debate and wouldn't show up. Then you said a whole bunch of other stuff. Now you are saying this. Soon you will be sayin Trump won the nomination but he will not win. Then you will vote for Hillary. Because you have a lot in common with her. Gay marriage, abortion. Ok you just have those and probably more. But you don't agree with Trump on the second amendment. He is taking a conservative position. That must be one of the reasons you don't like him.
Do you think stop and frisk is unconstitutional and a violation of peoples rights? Do you think a police state to fight crime is a good idea or a bad one? Guiliani was better then Bloomturd though.
Lame. Your whole house would probably fit inside my workshop,and my workshop is paid for. So are all the tools and cars in it. Also,I only owe 12 grand on my house and 8 acres of land. Who's the bubba,bubba? Next thing you're going to tell me is two men can be married. Are you actually retarded,or just so stupid you only believe the things you want to believe? Tell me,bubba,where does the US Constitution exempt homosexuals from having the same rights as everyone else? Why,people in this country are even free to believe in Holy Spooks if that's what it takes them to get through the day. You sure are covetous of Trump. You consistently continue to be wrong with everything you post. Unlike YOU,*I* don't covet wealth. Nor do I covet insanity,and Trump really is insane. No wonder you admire him. That is why you want to burn for Bernie. No being wrong isn't even good enough for you,so you have to start lying? Tell me,bubba. What does your God say about bearing false witness? BTW,that means lying. I figured I'd save you from having to look it up. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You're lying. YOU are the liar,not me. Day one you was saying he really wasn't running. Add the word "REALLY" between the word "wasn't" and the word "running",and that is what I was saying. I will try to dumb this down to the your level. A false campaign isn't really running. Then you said he wasnt filing financials. A lie. I even wrote,and pissed you off enough to attack me with yet another lie for writing it,that Trump was NOT spending his own money,and had even billed his campaign/the government $700,000 for him using his private jet to campaign. Then you said he wasn't filing FEC paperwork. Another lie. He HAS to do that because it is required by law. Then you said he was afraid to debate and wouldn't show up. Who does he debate? All he does is flap his fat mouth and attack the other candidates. He gives speeches attacking the other candidates,he doesn't answer questions. Will you become suicidal when he drops out? Who is the globlalist asshat you will support after he leaves? Will you be supporting his good friend Hillary Clinton? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You would like to hear his conversion account? For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
Actually you have more of a choice. Add Santorum, JEB! and Kasich to the list of Catholics of the Latin Rite. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
He has admitted that he never prays and has never asked for forgiveness at all. I think that won't go unnoticed. Not in Iowa and South Carolina.
Do you think a police state to fight crime is a good idea or a bad one? The 4th amendment protects against 'unreasonable ' searches . Stop and frisk does not violate that . Stop and frisk was only part of the crack down on quality of life crimes . Before Rudy NYC had become a cesspool of crime. Rudy changed the primary mission of the police department to preventing crime from happening rather than responding to it once it had occurred. Some of the things done was simple police scheduling . Detectives used to clock out at 5 PM ,just as most of the crimes were to occur. His police Commish William Bratton reorganized the NYPD, emphasizing a street crimes unit that moved around the city, flooding high-crime areas. He also brought modern management techniques to the force . It began compiling a computerized database ( Compstat)to track the city’s crime patterns and the effectiveness of the NYPD’s responses to them. You can't argue with the results .There was a historic drop in crime with total crime down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years,, and murder down 67 percent, from 1,960 in Dinky Dinkins’s last year to 640 in Rudy's last year. The number of cars stolen in New York City every year plummeted by 78,000. What libs fail to mention in their critique of his policing policies is that civilian complaints of excessive force by the NYPD declined from one complaint per ten officers to one per 19 officers. Meanwhile, shootings by cops declined by 50 percent and were far lower under Giuliani than under Dinkins ,and in fact lower than cities that boasted about their community policing policies. Those who claim the policies were racist fail to point out that the biggest beneficiaries were the minority communities . Rudy was delivering them equal protection under the law .In the majority Hispanic Washington Heights , murders dropped from 76 in 1993, Dinkins’s last year, to only 7 by Rudy’s last year, a decline of more than 90 percent. But law enforcement was only a part of his management that was conservative .I can discuss welfare reform ,reorganization of city hall ,changing the budget ,providing the climate for new job creation in the city ,the complete restoration of the Time Square area ,tax cuts ,his hard ball negotiations with municipal unions ,his reforms on how city contracts were awarded . Bottom line ,the combination of a safer city and a better budget environment ignited an economic boom. Safer streets meant that city residents would go out at night and spend money in restaurants ,theaters ,and clubs. Tourism soared . The city gained 430,000 new jobs. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I never wanted Rudy to do for America what he did for NYC but there is no arguing with the crime and police stats. Giuliani and Bratton deserve the credit for not only NYC but the revolution in policing across the country. They demonstrated how to make policing work again in metro areas. This is yet another reason why I keep repeating myself: "Giuliani wasn't conservative enough in 2008 but Trump is in 2016?". I just can't believe that and I was quite opposed to Giuliani over gun control and abortion and other liberal positions. Which are the same positions that Trump held for decades until the last year when he suddenly becomes a huge pro-life and gun supporter. Very convenient. But maybe the voters are more captivated by reality TV and The Donald Show than I realize. Perhaps 25%-30% of the GOP base really are that gullible.
Add Santorum, JEB! and Kasich to the list of Catholics of the Latin Rite. Yeah. Them too. Not happening. I don't disapprove of Santorum, but I know he's not going anywhere.
Yeah there is. Crime declined in America across the board during that time. There was no Giuliani in Detroit, but crime declined there also in the same time frame. Marion Barry was DC Mayor, and they never had a Giuliani, but crime declined there also. Truth is that three things happened. One is that the country had a sustained period of prosperity and internal stability once Vietnam was was over the hill and gone. Sustained prosperity and stability caused property values to go way up in cities that still had an economic core: the criminals were priced out. The second is more complicated. Crime spiked going into the Giuliani era because of general conditions in the country, but SPECIFICALLY because there were drug turf wars raging in every city as new, very aggressive Latin American drug cartel gangs fought with the older organized crime establishments and each other. It took a few years to sort out, but when crime was going down everywhere, it was because one side won the drug war and killed off or co-opted their rivals. Crime went up because the criminals were at war. It went down because the smartest violent criminals won the war and established themselves as the new bosses. The third is an unpleasant reality. Roe v. Wade became the law of the land in 1973. 1991 was 18 years after Roe. Crime fell steadily and swiftly everywhere in America 18 years after Roe, and stayed lower afterwards, because the cohort of the criminal unborn was nipped in the bud. That's why crime fell in New York, where Giuliani was channelling Mussolini and pretending that it was his aggressive behavior that was doing it. It's why crime fell in Detroit and Cleveland at the same time, even though those cities remained basket cases with utterly corrupt government. In short, Giuliani stood on the beach and crowed most loudly, and took credit for the receding of the tide. Canute was more modest. And the tide went out on the empty beaches too.
Yes it does. You aren't constitutionally literate. They did that kind of stuff in the Soviet Unionnot America. You McGovern supporters are wweirdos.
Pete you're just a dumb ass. You're not worht my time. You're what is wrong with America. If we could just make sure no one was like you. The country woudld improve significantly. Stay home on election day you're to stupid and dishonest for America.
You said he isn't running. So why is he reqauired to do it by law. Damned you're stupid. No wonder your wife left you alone in the trailer park.
You forgot a fourth: the states and the feds cracked down hard on crime by crackheads during that era. The Xlinton era is still held in low regard by many blacks because they consider that the Xlintons locked up a generation of young urban black men. Even so, Giuliani had great results in New York, as with Times Square and other quality-of-life issues. He did a lot of stuff for NYC that pulled it out of the gutter. It had been a basketcase of a city since I was young and Giuliani made a big difference. Bloomberg had the sense to stay the course. De Blasio is just a disaster across the board.
I actually thought McCain might have a chance at the end of the convention when he picked Palin. But then he made himself look like an idiot during the financial crisis and Palin fell for these trap interviews and it was over.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Yes it does. You aren't constitutionally literate. They did that kind of stuff in the Soviet Unionnot America. Terry v. Ohio 1968 : SCOTUS held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous." The meaning of the exclusionary rule of the 4th is to protect persons from unreasonable searches and seizures aimed at gathering evidence, not searches and seizures for other purposes like prevention of crime or personal protection of police officers. It's hilarious that you think this is a liberal position. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Supreme court. Blacks are not people. I don't care about lawyer spin. I care about the truth. The supreme court said Obamacare is contitutional. So stop complaiing about it.
You have a second amendment right to be armed. Armed people are be definition dangerous. Exercising one of your constittional rights doesn't take away another one. That is just stupid. I get it you are a big government anti liberty Republican.
It's moronic that you think it is constitutional.
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#2. To: Willie Green (#0)
#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
That somebody wouldn't vote for Trump because he's Presbyterian and not their own flavor of Christian seems pretty idiotic, to me.
#4. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
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Cruz would be less creepy if he were a Catholic.
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
Proddys doing Proddy stuff.
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
Cruz would be less creepy if he were a Catholic.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#7. To: TooConservative (#1)
I haven't heard Presbyterians -- which Trump claims to be -- ever saying that they are evangelicals. They do admit to being Protestants.
#8. To: no gnu taxes, tomder55 (#7)
I have to wonder if Trump even knows what that means.
#9. To: Willie Green (#0)
Trump went on to criticize Cruz's opposition to ethanol, saying it was because the first-term senator is loyal to the Lone Star state's oil industry who "give him a lot of money."
#10. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
#11. To: TooConservative (#8)
I recall Giuliani at 65% approval rating in the fall of 2007 but then no one showed up to vote for him.
#12. To: no gnu taxes (#11)
#13. To: tomder55 (#9)
so then is Trump in favor of turning a food source into a fuel additive, at tax payer's expense ,to cater to a special interest group ?
#14. To: no gnu taxes, Obama Republicans (#11)
After McCain won NH,
he Obama was pretty much a shoe in. "We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#15. To: TooConservative (#8)
I recall Giuliani at 65% approval rating in the fall of 2007 but then no one showed up to vote for him
#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)
#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)
#18. To: tomder55 (#9)
so then is Trump in favor of turning a food source into a fuel additive, at tax payer's expense ,to cater to a special interest group ?
#19. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Only dumb asses believed Rudy had any chance at all. Rudy is a liberal. With few accomplishments.
#20. To: tomder55 (#17)
if Rudy is a lib
#21. To: sneakypete (#19)
whose only real accomplishments were
#22. To: sneakypete (#18)
I have been predicting since day 1 that he wouldn't be running after the primaries
#23. To: tomder55 (#17)
Only someone who did not live in NYC before Rudy could claim he had few accomplishments.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)
Bernie Sanders lovers who live in junk yard trailer parks sound real silly claiming Trump never accomplished anything.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
I have been predicting since day 1 that he wouldn't be running after the primaries
#26. To: TooConservative (#1)
I would like for someone to directly ask Trump if he is a sinner and has ever asked God for forgiveness or salvation through Christ. I expect someone will get around to it, sooner than later.
#27. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
If I voted based on religion, I'd be voting for Rubio or Christie.
#28. To: redleghunter (#26)
You would like to hear his conversion account?
#29. To: A K A Stone (#23)
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Do you think stop and frisk is unconstitutional and a violation of peoples rights?
#30. To: tomder55 (#29)
You can't argue with the results .There was a historic drop in crime with total crime down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years,, and murder down 67 percent, from 1,960 in Dinky Dinkins’s last year to 640 in Rudy's last year. The number of cars stolen in New York City every year plummeted by 78,000. What libs fail to mention in their critique of his policing policies is that civilian complaints of excessive force by the NYPD declined from one complaint per ten officers to one per 19 officers. Meanwhile, shootings by cops declined by 50 percent and were far lower under Giuliani than under Dinkins ,and in fact lower than cities that boasted about their community policing policies. Those who claim the policies were racist fail to point out that the biggest beneficiaries were the minority communities . Rudy was delivering them equal protection under the law .In the majority Hispanic Washington Heights , murders dropped from 76 in 1993, Dinkins’s last year, to only 7 by Rudy’s last year, a decline of more than 90 percent.
#31. To: redleghunter (#27)
Actually you have more of a choice.
#32. To: TooConservative (#30)
I never wanted Rudy to do for America what he did for NYC but there is no arguing with the crime and police stats.
#33. To: tomder55 (#29)
Stop and frisk does not violate that .
#34. To: sneakypete (#25)
I will try to dumb this down to the your level. A false campaign isn't really running.
#35. To: sneakypete (#25)
Another lie. He HAS to do that because it is required by law.
#36. To: Vicomte13 (#32)
Truth is that three things happened.
#37. To: hondo68 (#14)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)
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Stop and frisk does not violate that . (4th amendment )
#39. To: tomder55 (#38)
#40. To: tomder55 (#38)
and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."
#41. To: tomder55 (#38)
It's hilarious that you think this is a liberal position.
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