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Title: Think 'Gun Violence' Is On the Rise in the U.S.? Think Again
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URL Source: https://pjmedia.com/trending/2015/1 ... he-rise-in-the-u-s-think-again
Published: Dec 6, 2015
Author: Michael Walsh
Post Date: 2015-12-06 21:07:33 by Justified
Keywords: None
Views: 4885
Comments: 38

As President Obama prepares to lecture the American public about guns yet again, the statistics say that "gun violence" is on the decline and has been for some time -- even as private firearm ownership has soared:

Premeditated mass shootings in public places are happening more often, some researchers say, plunging towns and cities into grief and riveting the attention of a horrified nation. In general, though, fewer Americans are dying as a result of gun violence — a shift that began about two decades ago.

In 1993, there were seven homicides by firearm for every 100,000 Americans, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. By 2013, that figure had fallen by nearly half, to 3.6 — a total of 11,208 firearm homicides. The number of victims of crimes involving guns that did not result in death (such as robberies) declined even more precipitously, from 725 per 100,000 people in 1993 to 175 in 2013.

Older data suggests that gun violence might have been even more widespread previously. The rate of murder and manslaughter excluding negligence reached an apex in 1980, according to the FBI. That year, there were 10.8 willful killings per 100,000 people. Although not a perfect measure of the overall rate of gun violence, the decline in the rate of murder and manslaughter is suggestive: Two in three homicides these days are committed with guns.

This decline in gun violence is part of an overall decline in violent crime. According to the FBI's data, the national rate of violent crime has decreased 49 percent since its apex in 1991. Even as a certain type of mass shooting is apparently becoming more frequent, America has become a much less violent place.

As has been noted repeatedly, throw out the "gun violence" of the largely Democrat big cities , such as Rahm Emanuel's violent and corrupt Chicago, and you have a nearly non-existent problem. What's likely to be on the rise are Islamic attacks on the homeland by Muslim terrorists (it doesn't matter whether they are "home grown" or imported). So, naturally, the Left wants to disarm law-abiding Americans.

Tells you whose side these people are on, doesn't it?

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#1. To: Justified (#0) (Edited)

Think 'Gun Violence' Is On the Rise in the U.S.?

No, but fanning hysteria over imaginary gun violence by propagandists is sure as hell on the rise.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-07   3:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

Hell if you take out gang bangers, drugged out crazy and terrorist Amerikan murders would be lowest probably of all western countries.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-07   14:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Justified, rlk (#2)

Hell if you take out gang bangers, drugged out crazy and terrorist Amerikan murders would be lowest probably of all western countries.

No. The USA has a history of having a higher crime rate the predates the emancipation of blacks, etc that dates back to the observations of Alexis de Tocqueville.

Pericles  posted on  2015-12-07   14:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pericles (#3)

Im thinking im right.

You eliminate mentally ill people like the 2 in Colorado and Sandy Hook.

You eliminate gang bangers of any race(not just blacks).

You eliminate Terrorist like fort hood and san bernadino and Umpqua(could be part of mentally ill).

You eliminate illegal aliens.

You can knock the murder down by half.

What you got left? Pissed off lover, burglary gone wrong, accidental discharge?

When I watch the news its the same old people causing 90% of the problems.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-07   17:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Justified (#0)

Think 'Gun Violence' Is On the Rise in the U.S.? Think Again

Pretty much so...

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778268.html

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-12-07   18:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#4)

You'll never get rid of the whacknuts, so you gotta limit their access to weapons & ammo. Even if it means amending the 2nd Amendment, civilian possession of semi-auto rifles & shotguns should be severely restricted, just like full auto machine guns are restricted. Bolt, lever & pump action longarms are good enough... nobody needs semi-auto except the military & law enforcement. And ALL owners & firearms must be licensed and registered after passing a test. No "grandfather clauses," everybody has to turn-in the semi-autos that are banned. Compensation can be paid out of the military budget (and the cash will help stimulate the economy.)

Willie Green  posted on  2015-12-07   18:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#6)

nobody needs semi-auto except the military & law enforcement.

What if there is a civil war and I want to blow your head off?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-07   18:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

You are a web site owner?

Shoot yourself in the head or chest.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-12-07   19:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified (#4)

Again, the USA has had historically high crime rates going back to when there was slavery and no non white immigration. This is a violent nation.

Pericles  posted on  2015-12-07   19:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#6)

You'll never get rid of the whacknuts, so you gotta limit their access to weapons & ammo.

So what do you plan on doing about automobiles???

Automobile accidents kill more people annually than firearms do... BTA so do a lot of other things...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-12-07   19:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pericles (#9)

This is a violent nation.

Yawn, someone fix this broken record.

calcon  posted on  2015-12-07   19:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#7)

What if there is a civil war and I want to blow your head off?

Then you should thank me because I prevented you from burning in hell for murder.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-12-07   20:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz, Willie Green (#8)

You are a web site owner?

Shoot yourself in the head or chest.

It was a hypothetical question. The purpose of the second amendment is to recognize a pre existing right to self defense.

If we got in a civil war or if we were invaded. You would think the government would want us armed so we could help defend our country. Isn't that the purpose of the second amendment?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-07   22:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Y'ALL, Willie Green, is a rabid anti-constitutionalist (#6)

--- nobody needs semi-auto except the military & law enforcement. And ALL owners & firearms must be licensed and registered after passing a test. No "grandfather clauses," everybody has to turn-in the semi-autos that are banned. -- willy

Where's the sedition act, now that we need it?

Seriously Willy, you really should temper your anti-constitutional agitprop a bit. -- Someone in your social circle may be a gun terrorist.

tpaine  posted on  2015-12-07   23:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Willie Green (#6)

You'll never get rid of the whacknuts,

Exactly. Thats why you have to have the right to keep and bear arms!!! Police can not do everything and be everywhere.

Whether I have an Uzi or knife as a good honest citizen MY RIGHTS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON BECAUSE OF SOME CRAZY PEOPLE! WHY ARE PEOPLE ALWAYS PUNISHING THE GOOD BECAUSE OF THE OUTLAW?

Justified  posted on  2015-12-08   23:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pericles (#9)

Again, the USA has had historically high crime rates going back to when there was slavery and no non white immigration. This is a violent nation.

So what? We are literally the only diverse nation in the world. No other nation is as diverse in race and religion as US. This cause extreme tension which can explode into violence.

Other nations that are trying to become diversified(because of white guilt) are finding this out the hard way. To bad the peons are paying the price while the rich elite socialist progressive live behind tall fences.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-08   23:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Justified (#15)

Whether I have an Uzi or knife as a good honest citizen MY RIGHTS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON BECAUSE OF SOME CRAZY PEOPLE! WHY ARE PEOPLE ALWAYS PUNISHING THE GOOD BECAUSE OF THE OUTLAW?

Because maybe YOU'RE one of the unhinged whacknuts...
That's why you shouldn't own an Uzi...
and if you already have one, the Feds should take it away from you...
it's safer for EVERYBODY if NOBODY has an Uzi.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-12-09   7:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#17)

Because maybe YOU'RE one of the unhinged whacknuts... That's why you shouldn't own an Uzi...

So you have convicted me of being crazy for owning a weapon with out due process? WOW. Aren't we judgmental!

This is the reason the ff gave us the 2nd amendment. Its not for hunting but it covers hunting. Its not for collecting weapons but it covers collecting weapons. Its to allow the peasants to protect themselves from evil people even if that evil is part of the government. Without the 2nd amendment we are slaves to the state but with the 2nd amendment we are masters of the government! The ff lived in a time were you were subjects of the state and were subject to their evil master. They knew the police could not fight the establishment.

Good men do good things. Bad men do bad things. There is no law that will change a bad man to a good man. If you punish the good men he too will turn bad in time. Thats what over burdensome government does. It turns good men into bad men.

and if you already have one, the Feds should take it away from you... it's safer for EVERYBODY if NOBODY has an Uzi.

What makes a government official with an Uzi more safe than an honest citizen with an Uzi?

If only government owes lethal weapons who will protect us from the government? Don't say the people since they have no way to fight against the government(controlled by the good ole boy elite system)!

Justified  posted on  2015-12-09   9:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Justified (#18)

Its to allow the peasants to protect themselves from evil people even if that evil is part of the government.

That's fine for the 18th Century... But if you want to try your luck against today's SWAT teams. be my guest. Get it over and done with so the rest of us don't have to listen to your stupidity.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-12-09   12:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Willie Green (#19) (Edited)

Did the Vietnamese win in the wars against the French and the United States by first using guerrilla warfare? Think about the principles of Judo.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-12-09   12:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Willie Green, Justified, Y'ALL (#19)

it's safer for EVERYBODY if NOBODY has an Uzi. --- willy

What makes a government official with an Uzi more safe than an honest citizen with an Uzi?

If only government owes lethal weapons who will protect us from the government? Don't say the people since they have no way to fight against the government(controlled by the good ole boy elite system)!----- Justified

That's fine for the 18th Century... But if you want to try your luck against today's SWAT teams. be my guest. --- Willie Green

Gotta love it when poor Willy is reduced to sputtering about how swat teams rule...

Good job, Justified..

tpaine  posted on  2015-12-09   12:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Willie Green (#19)

That's fine for the 18th Century... But if you want to try your luck against today's SWAT teams. be my guest. Get it over and done with so the rest of us don't have to listen to your stupidity.

For one swat can be taken out just like military people can be taken out. No one is immune from death.

Guns are the great equalizer. Im sorry that you can't live without suckling on the tit of government. It must really suck to look to fools for guidance.

The number one problem in America is not Russia, Terrorist, Mexico, Illegal aliens, Poverty, Drugs, Taxes, Corporations, Global Warming scam, Economic Depression, Crime, Communist, Conservatives, Demoncrat party, Repug Party, Socialist, Black Panthers, KKK its the federal government! If the federal government is constitutional then all is good but when federal government doesn't live with in the Constitution its more evil than anything upon this earth.

The constitution keeps the government in check. When idiots like you want to bypass the constitution to get your idiotic way thats when citizens have major problems. All else can be dealt with with a constitutional government.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-09   12:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tpaine, Justified (#21)

Gotta love it when poor Willy is reduced to sputtering about how swat teams rule...

You two go ahead & have fun playing with yourselves.


tpaine & the Justified Kid

I'll just sit here eating popcorn in the cheap seats where it's nice and safe.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-12-09   12:58:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Justified (#22)

Guns are the great equalizer.

Not when they outnumber you 500 to 1.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-12-09   13:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Willie Green (#24)

Not when they outnumber you 500 to 1.

Leave it to a progressive to find a way to wimp out!

Never seen 500 to 1 but then I do not live in Shitcago!

Usually its 1 or 2 to 1. Those odds favor me!

I would rather die like a man then live like coward! I can tell you would rather live like a coward than man-up!

Justified  posted on  2015-12-09   14:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Justified (#25)

Chicago is Obama's home.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-12-09   14:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Justified (#16)

So what? We are literally the only diverse nation in the world. No other nation is as diverse in race and religion as US. This cause extreme tension which can explode into violence.

I was not judging just stating facts. The anglo-Saxon nations have the highest level of crime in the so called white aka Western European world - Australia has a high level of crime also - at least it did up to the 1980s last time I read up on the subject. It could be the freedom - were every m an thinks he is special and it could be t he gun availability - a population of armed assholes.

Pericles  posted on  2015-12-13   15:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pericles (#27)

Equal laws, fences and guns make for good and polite society! ;)

Australia is nearly a homogeneous society with vast land per person.

There is nothing out there that compares to US and when countries try to emulate US they are crushed by their own stupidity. Mismatched cultures cause massive friction ie clashes. Good people always lose in this fight.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-13   16:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Justified (#28) (Edited)

There is nothing out there that compares to US

You obviously haven't been there. Australia is a highly urbanised society but it has its problems they are just different. Last weekend someone tried to stir up race riots like there were 10 years ago between muslims and australians. we feel very strongly about the erosion of our culture and the development of ghettos in our cities.

we certainly don't want to emulate the US in any sense since our culture is much more even handed and inclusive. Poverty is something we talk about with out actually experiencing excepting in remote places. Our vast land remains largely unpopulated because it isn't blessed with water as yours is and your ideas on agriculture just don't work Australia is not a population of armed arseholes we reserve that priviledge for the US, we don't need guns to live in safety or feel safe, crime is at a low level here for the most part

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-13   17:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: paraclete (#29)

There is nothing out there that compares to US

Then you are lying to yourself. No other country comes close to US in diversity of culture, religion, or race. Every time countries try to emulate they get what they deserve!

Our vast land remains largely unpopulated because it isn't blessed with water as yours is and your ideas on agriculture just don't work Australia is not a population of armed arseholes we reserve that priviledge for the US, we don't need guns to live in safety or feel safe, crime is at a low level here for the most part

99.999999999999% of gun owners never cause a problem. Its the criminals that cause issues. Its progressive asshats that make gun free zones which are nothing more than killboxes for the mentally insane. We as a society can not deal with the mentally insane because of progressive asshats who block any legislation to help mentally ill that actually works!

Like I have said you take away the gang bangers, mentally ill and illegal aliens America would be the greatest place to live again!!!!!

With true freedoms comes great self responsibilities that no government can force through laws!

Justified  posted on  2015-12-13   17:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Justified (#30)

Then you are lying to yourself.

No you are lying to yourself.

Every nation, culture and race on earth is represented in my nation, every religion is represented in my nation and for the most part we live in harmony. You cannot take away that part of your population that makes the place dangerous and even intolerable and just ascribe it to criminals.You are saying a high percentage of the population has a criminal attitude. You have the largest prison population in the world, and still you have the highest death rate from gun violence. You would have to lock the entire population up to stop it, your so called freedoms place you at risk every day from violent criminals exercising their freedom to kill, mame, rape, bash and rob and yet you don't ask yourseld how is it that others don't have the same level of problem

You are right that true freedom brings with it responsbilities but if the population doesn't accept those responsibilites then you have to restrict their freedoms. reasoonable responsible people know this but ratbags don't

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-13   18:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: paraclete (#31)

All other western nations are 85+% white who have 1000+ year family roots! Us 70% white with maybe 100 year history but most likely less than 50 years.

US has more illegals than any 5 western countries combined!

Other countries can't handle what little immigration they have.

Other nations have less than a third of the black population US and are starting understand the problem they bring.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-13   19:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Justified (#32) (Edited)

Other nations have less than a third of the black population US and are starting understand the problem they bring.

your generalisations don't apply to everyone. some of us manage population movements very well by not having open borders. Whatever problems you have it is your own screwed up fault. Your black population is a problem only because they are still second class citizens, you have an immigration problem because you allowed it to happen. But the real problem is the corruption within your system of government, it is well hidden but it is there. Capitalism is not the great system you think it is, it is just as much an oppressor of the people as communism witnessed by the fact that they take the industries out of the country to suppress wages. What is a mess is your pitiful attempt at multiculturism You keep telling yourselves you are great while the place falls apart around you

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-13   21:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: paraclete (#33)

Your black population is a problem only because they are still second class citizens

No whites are second class citizens. Blacks have special rights that no white could have. This is how progressives divide races with special laws ie special class citizen.

you have an immigration problem because you allowed it to happen.

We have a immigration problem because progressives refuse to enforce the laws on the books.

Capitalism is not the great system you think it is

Capitalism is the only system that works. Its progressives that hate free will and do everything in their power to destroy real freedom by using the MSM to change laws to harm the citizens who do not agree with them. Progressives are every bit as evil as communist and fascist.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-13   21:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Justified (#34)

Capitalism is the only system that works.

No your form of it doesn't work, it creates poverty world wide

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-14   2:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: paraclete (#35)

Capitalism is the only system that works.

No your form of it doesn't work, it creates poverty world wide

My form has not been seen in my life time.

All we have had is good ole boy global corporate screw the tax payer socialist capitalism. In other words we do not have a capitalist society and have not had one in some time.

Justified  posted on  2015-12-14   9:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Y'ALL (#35)

Capitalism is not the great system you think it is ----

----- your form of it doesn't work, it creates poverty world wide.

It would be interesting to see anyone here prove that the form of capitalism practiced in the USA "creates poverty world wide"..

Of course, that won't happen... All we'll see is more agitprop and bullshit.

tpaine  posted on  2015-12-14   12:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: tpaine (#37) (Edited)

All we'll see is more agitprop and bullshit.

look at some of the threads on this site, charity may begin at home, well poverty does also apparently. How does your form of capitalism export poverty, by setting up industries in low cost countries, removing employment from higher cost countries, then a few years later they move on shattering the economies that now rely on them in the mean time the higher cost countries are flooded with cheap imports making recovery impossible

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-14   21:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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