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Title: Liberty president calls for an armed Christian campus (.25-caliber Falwell)
Source: AP
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2015-12-05-12-15-39
Published: Dec 5, 2015
Author: STEVE SZKOTAK
Post Date: 2015-12-05 21:15:56 by Hondo68
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Views: 3404
Comments: 20

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. urged students, staff and faculty at his Christian school to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon on campus to counter any copycat attack like the deadly rampage in California just days ago.

"Let's teach them a lesson if they ever show up here," Falwell told an estimated 10,000 of the campus community at convocation Friday in Lynchburg. While Falwell's call to arms was applauded, his remarks also seemed to target Muslims.

"I've always thought if more good people had concealed carry permits, then we could end those Muslims before they walked in .," Falwell said. The final words of his statement could not be clearly heard on a videotape of the remarks.

However, Falwell told The Associated Press on Saturday he was specifically referring to Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, the husband and wife who shot and killed 14 people at a holiday party in San Bernardino on Wednesday.

Falwell also said he believed the campus needed to be prepared in the face of the increasing frequency of mass killings. He cited, for example, the 2007 massacre of 32 people at Virginia Tech, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, and less than 100 miles southwest of Liberty.

"What if just one of those students or one of those faculty members had a concealed permit and was carrying a weapon when the shooter walked into Virginia Tech? Countless lives could have been saved," he said.

Falwell's message is apparently being heeded. He said more than 100 people had asked Liberty police about a free class to obtain a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

Liberty was founded by Jerry Falwell Sr., who was among the nation's first conservative cultural warriors. The Moral Majority founder's barbed commentary on contemporary matters such as gay Americans made him a reviled figure to some and a pioneering conservative crusader to others.

Following the San Bernardino shootings, which left 14 dead, Falwell said he began carrying a .25-caliber handgun in his back pocket. He said he's had a permit for more than year.

During his address Friday, Falwell mentioned the weapon and reached around seemingly to fetch it.

"Is it illegal to pull it out? I don't know," he said, laughing, drawing some hoots from the audience.

Asked if he was concerned by the prospect of thousands of armed young people on campus, Falwell said Virginia has a minimum age of 21 for a carry-conceal permit. He said that meant only older students would be armed.

More than 14,000 students are enrolled at Liberty.

Falwell said he had also reached out to a first responder in San Bernardino to see if the school could offer scholarship assistance to his children.

Falwell's remarks were first reported by the News & Advance (http://bit.ly/1Na9kYd ).


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Shooting at Muslims with a .25 cal, is just trolling for a jihad. He's just asking for his 72 virgins.

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#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

"Is it illegal to pull it out?

Falwell seems to have missed the Christian message and compromised for publicity.

Jesus only thought two swords were necessary when he was going to face an angry mob, but Falwell wants 100 or more and Jesus knew there is an emenent threat and Falwell does not

Why can't the carry be an open carry?. Why does it need to be concealed? But of course the question is why does it need to be a carry at all. Is Falwell's christian faith too small?

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-05   21:46:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: paraclete (#3)

Jesus is God and as He said, He could have a legion of Angels to protect Him. The statement about the two swords was another lesson for us. Jesus didn't object to weapons in the hands of His followers.

Don  posted on  2015-12-05   22:22:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Don (#6)

Jesus didn't object to weapons in the hands of His followers.

he was quick to stop their use

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-06   0:47:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: paraclete (#9)

When?

Don  posted on  2015-12-06   8:10:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Don (#11)

When?

matthew 26:52 2 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?”

55 In that hour Jesus said to the crowd, “Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I sat in the temple courts teaching, and you did not arrest me. 56 But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled.” Then all the disciples deserted him and fled."

Way I see it Christians can carry weapons if they want to but when it comes to using them a great deal of patience is needed

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-06   15:38:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: paraclete (#13)

I have seen no verse in the Holy Bible that bans self-defense. Nor is killing in a time of war banned.

Don  posted on  2015-12-06   18:02:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Don (#14)

I have seen no verse in the Holy Bible that bans self-defense.

matter of definition.

define war, define self defense.

Is a war we have declared the same as when we are attacked? Is it self defence when you are part of the aggressor army and an enemy soldier approaches you and you kill him.

Right now we have a war on terror, is this a real war? Is the war being fought today the same war as 15 years ago. I try not to justify my actions from the Bible particularly not where violence is concerned. I know I can rely on the mercy and justice of God. In any of this I am not saying Daesh is not evil and evil should be opposed however the Daesh are like the amalekites of the OT. We know the judgement God pronounced for them but we are above such remedies or we think we are. Let us hope it doesn't take as long to eliminate Daesh as it took Israel to eliminate the amalekites

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#17. To: paraclete (#15)

Basically, the common soldier doesn't have anything to do with starting a war. That is up to the leaders. Any blame is connected to the ones who direct evil acts. Remember the Nuremberg Trials? Common soldiers weren't tried, leaders were. Individual consciences are a different matter. Murder can be committed in a war, and American soldiers have been tried for murder.

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