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Title: White House Demands Congress Pass Gun Control For Christmas
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... ss-pass-gun-control-christmas/
Published: Dec 5, 2015
Author: Charlie Spiering
Post Date: 2015-12-05 17:30:53 by Don
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Views: 9619
Comments: 43
The Obama administration is pressing for gun control, repeating a demand that Congress pass a ban on gun ownership for Americans on the no-fly list. “If the U.S. Government has determined that it is too dangerous for you to board a plane then you shouldn’t be able to buy a gun,” White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said during a press conference in Paris today. Earnest made the request just days after he called on Americans to talk about gun control during Thanksgiving dinner. “Congress should pass this law before leaving for the Holidays,” Earnest said. Earnest’s rhetoric continues the White House efforts pushed by anti-gun activists to do something on gun control. After the shooting in Colorado over the weekend, President Obama demanded that Congress do something about guns. “This is not normal. We can’t let it become normal,” he said. “If we truly care about this … then we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them. Period. Enough is enough.” Read More Stories About: Big Government, White House, barack obama, gun control, Second Amendment, josh earnest
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#1. To: Don (#0)
Is the "No-Fly-List" infallible? What happens when a citizen is placed on the "No-Fly-List" by mistake? Do you know what supporting evidence is required to EVEN be placed on a "No-Fly-List" in the first place?
It appears there is only one person in the country who thinks so. 30,000 gun related deaths a year is not enough, mass killings every week is not enough, no, the eighteenth century thinking is sacrosanct, a religious furvour surrounds it, a great pity similiar religious furour didn't surround the commandments of the Lord. is it that he said you shall not? where the constitution says shall not it is headed, but where God says shall not it is ignored. one shall not removes a right, the other creates it or so it is said. In a country that claims to be righteous, having 70% christian population and 100% gun population something just doesn't jell, the paranoid have taken over, the rule of law is lost
These people will be putting names on the list to simply ban them from owning firearms. There is method to their madness.
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
The Rule of Law doesn't exist for these people and their agenda.
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
Can you go FUCK OFF over at Huffington Post to get a tearful of sympathy? In other words, FUCK OFF.
Is this a bad thing? People know their neighbours, they know whether they are responsible or not. but should a particular class of people be banned? are you going to give guns to minors? Is there anything wrong with demanding anyone who owns a gun goes through a rigourous training program which might disclose some issues? is there anything wrong with demanding there be limitations on the number and type of weapons owned? on demanding there be limitations on the use to which weapons be put?
Of course. It is an administration consideration depriving citizens the rights to due process. What is important, here, is that 0bama encourages this sort of facisim for America while he imports tens of thousands of Muslim "refugees" into America while they are not properly vetted by any deep background checks. It is impressive to see how America is sheading individual rights, liberties and freedoms at an increasing rate.
Release the list.
It is released. Don't you ever leave the basement of your mommies house? In fact, there are piles of "roscoes" on the list. And not one buckeroo.
And everybody that 'knew' the SB shooters said they were great people. True? Damn near every boy I knew got a gun by 12/16 years old. Not a mass murderer among em. Yes. - But we decided some time ago that we did not want a draft, -- nationwide military training. I think we should have it for whimps like you. Yes, it's against our constitutional principles to infringe on our basic inalienable rights. -- You should go elsewhere..
Years ago I did a small job for a 'upstanding' executive in a major corporation who lived in a multi-million dollar house. --- He got put on the no fly list, and it took him several years to be taken off. They never told him why..
When GWBush first established US government terrorism, he placed me on his list in 2003. I was finally removed four years later because of US government ineptitude. Through those four years I traveled the world over and domestically; the "no-fly-list" caused many flight changes for me. Typically, I had to appear about 2-3 hours BEFORE the flight to be cleared at the airline flight check-in area. Normally, the TSA would take their tyme doing what bureaucrats normally do: NOTHING. In all cases, my bags were checked 100%. I have no idea why I was placed on the NFL by the US government. I have no idea why I was removed from the NFL either. I doubt the US government knows anything other than to obstruct American citizens for the course of normal business while doing nothing to protect anyone.
Beyond that, this is a direct end-run around the state control of firearms ownership. They are trying to place gun ownership under federal purview in one fell swoop. This is a blatant attack on the Constitution and on gun rights as we have always understood them: a state matter, not a federal responsibility.
When TSA first started up, Teddy Kennedy got put on the no-fly list. Took them a week or so to clear him to fly again. Apparently he pulled quite a fit with the whole do-you-know-who-I-am routine these spoiled brat pols always resort to and they still wouldn't let him board.
No. It's a secret. But, there are two names we know weren't on it -- Syed Rizwan Farook and Tafsheen Malik.
For the record I did three years military training as a teen, from which I learned discipline, weapons usage, and citizenship. I think those qualities are lacking where you live. I find I don't need to own a weapon, that doesn't make me a wimp but I'll let wimps like you own the guns, since you are quaking in your boots and need to feel safe. Tell me is it against your constitutional principles to ensure public safety? I would have thought that a preeminent requirement "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare." You see in those words it says nothing about a right of the individual to impinge on everyone else's rights. So for me the right to control guns falls under each of those provisions if the 2nd amendment is in conflict with it then that part of the 2nd amendment is void
Yep By using names on a CYA no-fly list.
---- nationwide military training. I think we should have it for whimps like you. For the record I did three years military training as a teen, from which I learned discipline, weapons usage, and citizenship. I doubt that.. You certainly don't act, or post, like it here.
1.3% of all deaths in the country were related to firearms.[1][6] Grow up... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
You were obviously brought up under a different system than Americans, right? If that is so, you have no understanding of the American culture.
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
What names may be on their list is an issue that reaches beyond the individuals targeted. The fed's name indexing systems are based on the ancient Soundex system. That system sucks more than you can imagine.
Care to elaborate ? Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton
It's all about federal power. If they can take your guns via a NFL, it doesn't matter what your state/local gun laws are. All of those would be nullified in one fell swoop. I'm not sure the Court would go along with it though.
Australian Army Cadets
On 2015-12-05 19:47:38, CZ82 wrote: To: paraclete 30,000 gun related deaths a year is not enough, 1.3% of all deaths in the country were related to firearms.[1][6] Grow up... 1.3% of all deaths in the country were related to firearms.[ On the contrary it is those who cannot see that change is needed who need to grow up. Which of those deaths do you say is not unnecessary, the few that might be the result of police action? yes you may have many who die of old age, or disease, or auto accident, however the comparison is rediculous, I say to you grow up and debate real issues
Where are you from?
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
" --- establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare." --- You're quite insane (like Obama) if you believe that my right to bear arms conflicts with our other constitutional rights in ANY way. Indeed, grow up and tell us all how our 2nd Amendment rights conflict (or impinge) on any other rights. I'll bet you can't make a rational reply.
the mountain
Is that someting like our high school ROTC?
maybe, maybe not, where I was the whole school participated and was part of the corp. The Teachers held reservist military rank. Our camps were full blown military exercises and training on military camps. We were all fully checked out on Rifle, Light Machine Gun, Mortar, Grenade A leftist government attempted to disband the corp in 1970's
Wait until they expand that to the federal "watch list", a much larger database.
Fantasy Land? Witch Mountain? Mars?
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
Well let's see. The federal government denying you your second amendment right because you might do something illegal based solely on the fact that you're on some secret list created by the federal government using criteria also created by the federal government. Gosh. Why limit it to the second amendment? Why not include the fourth? Or the first? Or the entire BOR?
That happened to a lot of kooks. Seems Dubya got your number early on. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
yes you may have many who die of old age, or disease, or auto accident, however the comparison is rediculous, I say to you grow up and debate real issues So what about the other 98.7% of deaths, not all of those are old age/natural cause related... Over 2.5 million people died in the US in 2014... So what are you gonna ban to stop those unnecessary deaths??? Eating, smoking cigarettes/dope, drinking, forks, driving vehicles, committing suicide, being born with some hereditary disease, climbing trees, skydiving or maybe even breathing??? Maybe you should figure out what the real issue is and it isn't firearms!!! Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Maybe we should ban alcohol, cars, cancer causing food, soft drinks that lead to obesity, etc.
In Soundex, misterwhite is also macdermid, macdiarmid, mashiter, masters, masterson, mcdermitt, mcdermott, mcdorman, mcguthry, mcstravick, mcteer, mcturk, and meister. (Although the federal government might supplement their indexing and retrieval systems with manually populated surname and given name equivalents. Maybe some character string matching.) Oh, and Soundex was developed for western names. As poor as it is for those, when applied to Asian and Middle Eastern names it is next to useless.
misterwhite is also mashiter? Are you mashitting me?
In the most commonly used character string matching system, misterwhite is also misty.
Noooooooo!
again not sure what you are referring to? My Mountain is Mount Panorama, a world famous motor racing circuit, Fantasy land; well there are lot of them. most exist around national capitals and this place becomes fantasy land once a year. Mars; can't say I want to go there, too sterile, too unfriendly. I do think we should establish a colony on Pluto and send all the muslims there
Good heavens what am I going to eat and drink?
The real issue is ATTITUDE! It is always the issue and you can rap all the arguments up in it. It the citizens have enough gumption they will find a way to bring about change. You should work on changing the things you can change otherwise why do we bother with medical research? You can't change old age or hereditary disease but there are a number of factors causing death that you can change and some of us have had success in making changes and reducing death from these sources. In some cases such as drugs noone has had much success and I come back to my original statement
The Obama administration is pressing for gun control, repeating a demand that Congress pass a ban on gun ownership for Americans on the no-fly list.
#2. To: Don (#0)
(Edited)
Enough is enough
#3. To: buckeroo (#1)
#4. To: paraclete (#2)
#5. To: paraclete (#2)
#6. To: Don (#3)
(Edited)
These people will be putting names on the list to simply ban them from owning firearms.
#7. To: Don (#3)
#8. To: Don (#0)
The Obama administration is pressing for gun control, repeating a demand that Congress pass a ban on gun ownership for Americans on the no-fly list.
#9. To: Roscoe (#8)
(Edited)
#10. To: paraclete (#6)
People know their neighbours, they know whether they are responsible or not.
--- but should a particular class of people be banned? are you going to give guns to minors?
Is there anything wrong with demanding anyone who owns a gun goes through a rigourous training program which might disclose some issues?
- is there anything wrong with demanding there be limitations on the number and type of weapons owned? on demanding there be limitations on the use to which weapons be put?
#11. To: buckeroo (#9)
Roscoe --- It is released. Don't you ever leave the basement of your mommies house? In fact, there are piles of "roscoes" on the list. And not one buckeroo.
#12. To: tpaine (#11)
#13. To: buckeroo (#1)
Is the "No-Fly-List" infallible? What happens when a citizen is placed on the "No-Fly-List" by mistake?
#14. To: tpaine (#11)
Years ago I did a small job for a 'upstanding' executive in a major corporation who lived in a multi-million dollar house. --- He got put on the no fly list, and it took him several years to be taken off.
#15. To: Roscoe (#8)
"Release the list."
#16. To: tpaine (#10)
(Edited)
nationwide military training. I think we should have it for whimps like you.
#17. To: TooConservative (#13)
"They are trying to place gun ownership under federal purview in one fell swoop."
#18. To: paraclete (#16)
I think those qualities are lacking where you live.
You have idiotic opinions about our Constitution, so it's no wonder you're an idiot about everything else.. I find I don't need to own a weapon, that doesn't make me a wimp.
Sorry, but everyone here disagrees, - you're a wimp... but I'll let wimps like you own the guns, since you are quaking in your boots and need to feel safe. Tell me is it against your constitutional principles to ensure public safety? I would have thought that a preeminent requirement ---- "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare." --- You see in those words it says nothing about a right of the individual to impinge on everyone else's rights. So for me the right to control guns falls under each of those provisions if the 2nd amendment is in conflict with it then that part of the 2nd amendment is void.
You're quite insane (like Obama) if you believe that my right to bear arms conflicts with our other constitutional rights in ANY way. Go post somewhere else. Our crazy quota is all filled up at LF..
#19. To: paraclete (#2)
30,000 gun related deaths a year is not enough,
#20. To: paraclete (#6)
#21. To: misterwhite (#15)
#22. To: paraclete (#16)
" For the record I did three years military training as a teen "
#23. To: misterwhite (#17)
Yep By using names on a CYA no-fly list.
#24. To: Stoner (#22)
Care to elaborate ?
#25. To: CZ82 (#19)
Post Comment Please cut and paste the portion of the text to which you are replying, if any, into the "Quote" box using your computer's editing features.
#26. To: paraclete (#25)
#27. To: paraclete, Y'ALL (#25)
You see in those words it says nothing about a right of the individual to impinge on everyone else's rights. So for me the right to control guns falls under each of those provisions if the 2nd amendment is in conflict with it then that part of the 2nd amendment is void.
I say to you grow up and debate real issues.
#28. To: Don (#26)
#29. To: paraclete (#24)
Australian Army Cadets
#30. To: rlk (#29)
(Edited)
Is that something like our high school ROTC?
#31. To: TooConservative (#23)
"If they can take your guns via a NFL"
#32. To: paraclete (#28)
#33. To: Roscoe (#21)
#34. To: buckeroo (#12)
When GWBush first established US government terrorism, he placed me on his list in 2003.
#35. To: paraclete, redleghunter, tomder55 (#25)
Which of those deaths do you say is not unnecessary
#36. To: paraclete (#6)
Is this a bad thing?
#37. To: misterwhite (#33)
using criteria also created by the federal government.
#38. To: Roscoe (#37)
#39. To: misterwhite (#38)
Are you mashitting me?
#40. To: Roscoe (#39)
(Edited)
"misterwhite is also misty."
#41. To: Don (#32)
Fantasy Land? Witch Mountain? Mars?
#42. To: U don't know me (#36)
Maybe we should ban alcohol, cars, cancer causing food, soft drinks that lead to obesity,
#43. To: CZ82 (#35)
Maybe you should figure out what the real issue is and it isn't firearms!!!
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