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Title: End the Gun Epidemic in America
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/o ... omments&_r=0#commentsContainer
Published: Dec 5, 2015
Author: The Editorial Board
Post Date: 2015-12-05 06:48:59 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 416
Comments: 3

​It is a moral outrage and national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. -- By THE EDITORIAL BOARD, DEC. 4, 2015

All decent people feel sorrow and righteous fury about the latest slaughter of innocents, in California. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies are searching for motivations, including the vital question of how the murderers might have been connected to international terrorism. That is right and proper.

But motives do not matter to the dead in California, nor did they in Colorado, Oregon, South Carolina, Virginia, Connecticut and far too many other places. The attention and anger of Americans should also be directed at the elected leaders whose job is to keep us safe but who place a higher premium on the money and political power of an industry dedicated to profiting from the unfettered spread of ever more powerful firearms.

It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection. America’s elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing, as they did on Thursday. They distract us with arguments about the word terrorism. Let’s be clear: These spree killings are all, in their own ways, acts of terrorism.

Opponents of gun control are saying, as they do after every killing, that no law can unfailingly forestall a specific criminal. That is true. They are talking, many with sincerity, about the constitutional challenges to effective gun regulation. Those challenges exist. They point out that determined killers obtained weapons illegally in places like France, England and Norway that have strict gun laws. Yes, they did.

But at least those countries are trying. The United States is not. Worse, politicians abet would-be killers by creating gun markets for them, and voters allow those politicians to keep their jobs. It is past time to stop talking about halting the spread of firearms, and instead to reduce their number drastically — eliminating some large categories of weapons and ammunition.

It is not necessary to debate the peculiar wording of the Second Amendment. No right is unlimited and immune from reasonable regulation.

Certain kinds of weapons, like the slightly modified combat rifles used in California, and certain kinds of ammunition, must be outlawed for civilian ownership. It is possible to define those guns in a clear and effective way and, yes, it would require Americans who own those kinds of weapons to give them up for the good of their fellow citizens.

What better time than during a presidential election to show, at long last, that our nation has retained its sense of decency?


Meanwhile ... back at the ranch ... 0bama is importing muslim terrorists by the tens of thouosands OR letting them swim their way over from the South of the Border. tsk, tsk, tsk

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

​It is a moral outrage and national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. -- By THE EDITORIAL BOARD, DEC. 4, 2015

And you can bet your ass that every single member of the NYT editorial board has armed body guards or a NYC CCW permit and a handgun.

Or both.

You can also bet they all live in gated communities and/or high rise apt buildings in NYC with armed off-duty or retired NYC cops working as doormen and security inside the building.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-05   6:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#0) (Edited)

It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection. America’s elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing, as they did on Thursday. They distract us with arguments about the word terrorism. Let’s be clear: These spree killings are all, in their own ways, acts of terrorism.

You would think that people that write for a living would be able to read and comprehend,wouldn't you?

The weapons used in the California murders ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL TO OWN AND POSSESS IN CALIFORNIA.

IT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL TO MURDER PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA,AS WELL AS EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY,REGARDLESS OF THE METHOD EMPLOYED.

We are now supposed to believe that "One more law" will be too much for criminals and terrorists to break,and they will suddenly say to themselves,"Self,breaking this one last is one step too far! I am going to give up my life of crime and/or terrorism because this last law made me see the light!"?

Then again,who expects deep thinking or even shallow thinking from a Dim? NOT thinking for themselves defines them.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-12-05   7:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

Pete - Please turn 'em in. Save us from ourselves!

buckeroo  posted on  2015-12-05   7:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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