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Title: ACT OF WAR!
Source: buckeroo
URL Source: http://libertiesflame.com
Published: Dec 4, 2015
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2015-12-04 21:19:21 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 2535
Comments: 15

So 0bama and his best pal GWBush think terrorism is not rooted in Muslim mosques? Are these total assholes worthy of another consideration? Arm yourselves, my friends because if terroism is in a hospital, it will be in your home NEXT!

San Bernardino shooting investigated as 'act of terrorism'

(CNN)The San Bernardino, California, mass shooting is now being investigated as "an act of terrorism," FBI official David Bowdich said Friday.

Bowdich said the FBI "uncovered evidence ... of extreme planning."

He said some phone conversations between at least one of the shooters and other people are being investigated. The announcement means the FBI has become the lead investigative agency, taking over from San Bernardino police.

"As of today, based on the information and the facts as we know them, we are now investigating these horrific acts as an act of terrorism," said Bowdich, assistant director of the FBI office in Los Angeles.

The announcement came several hours after a revelation about Tashfeen Malik, the female shooter in the Wednesday massacre that left 14 dead and 21 wounded.

She posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on Facebook while the shooting was happening, three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation told CNN.

Malik's post was made on an account with a different name, one U.S. official said. The officials did not explain how they knew Malik made the post.

A Facebook official told CNN that a post that went up about 11 a.m. Wednesday that violated the company's community standards that prohibit the promotion of terrorism or the glorification of violence. It was taken down Thursday.

The official said he couldn't go into details about the nature of the post. The official said Facebook is cooperating with law enforcement.

The mass shooting may have been inspired by ISIS, a law enforcement official said, but none of the officials said ISIS directed or ordered the attack. ISIS has called for people worldwide to launch attacks in its name but isn't known to have claimed credit for what happened in San Bernardino.

Malik and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, burst into a holiday party for the environmental health department he worked for and opened fire. They were killed elsewhere in a shootout with police. San Bernardino: Full coverage

No one has been arrested in connection with the massacre, but authorities say arrests are possible.

"This is looking more and more like self-radicalization," a law enforcement official said.

Farook's relatives didn't know the couple held radical views and have no idea why the couple burst into the party for Farook's co-workers and viciously opened fire, family lawyers said. Nor did the family know the couple had a makeshift bomb lab in the apartment they shared with their 6-month-old daughter and Farook's mother.

"It just doesn't make sense for these two to be able to act like some kind of Bonnie and Clyde or something," Farook family attorney David S. Chesley told CNN's Chris Cuomo. "It's just ridiculous. It doesn't add up."

Another official said authorities haven't ruled out that others may have influenced this radical view. In addition, the law enforcement source said investigators think a workplace issue with religion may have sparked the killings.

Officials: Farook talked to person investigated for terror

Neither Farook nor his wife had gotten into trouble with the law, according to police. Neither was on any list of potentially radicalized people.

But it's not known what connections Malik, who was born and raised in Pakistan and moved to Saudi Arabia about the age of 19, had with any terrorists or groups.

Investigators are exploring Farook's communications with at least one person who was being investigated for possible terror connections. Some were by phone, some on social media.

"These appear to be soft connections," an official said, meaning they were not frequent contacts. Farook's last communication with the contacts was months ago.

A federal official said Farook has "overseas communications and associations," but it's not yet clear how relevant they are to the shootings. "We don't know yet what they mean," the official said.

Family lawyer Mohammad Abuershaid said that Farook traveled twice to Saudi Arabia -- first in 2013 for the Hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that Muslims are required to make at least once in their lifetimes, then again to marry Malik, whom he'd met through an online dating service.

Bowdich said that he went to Pakistan, as well, though Abuershaid denied that.

Did a workplace dispute boil over?

The shooters didn't make it easy for authorities: The hard drive from their computer is gone, and two relatively new cell phones were found smashed in a garbage can near one of the crime scenes, law enforcement officials said.

Bowdich called this an attempt to destroy "digital fingerprints."

Authorities haven't ruled out what President Barack Obama called "mixed motives," meaning that Islamic radicalism and workplace grievances both could have driven the attack.

San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan has said there were indications Farook appeared angry when he suddenly left Wednesday's holiday luncheon at Inland Regional Center, only to return heavily armed with his wife.

Farook family lawyers didn't speculate on his reasoning, though Chesley did say that "at some times co-workers have done silly things, like made fun of Syed's beard."

One of Farook's colleagues killed in the attack, Nicholas Thalasinos, liked to discuss religion and politics. Farook and Thalasinos, reportedly a devout Messianic Jew, had a "heated, passionate" discussion about politics and religion a few days earlier, said Kuuleme Stephens, a friend of Thalasinos, who called him at work while Thalasinos was in the middle of the conversation.

The men were sticking by their strongly held positions but were not fighting, Stephens said.

Thalasinos' widow, Jennifer, said he was quite verbal about terrorism. "He's very upset about what ISIS has been doing and the radicalized Muslims," she said.

Even those who knew Farook best didn't see anything to suggest something nefarious, according to family representatives.

That included Farook's mother, who thought nothing of it when the pair had her watch their 6-month-old girl while they went to a doctor's appointment, Abuershaid said. The lawyer didn't know if there ever was a doctor's appointment -- only that the mother initially worried that Farook had gotten shot, not that he was doing the shooting.

Chesley expressed surprise that Malik, whom he described as being "about 90 pounds, so it's unlikely she could even carry a weapon or wear some type of a vest or do any of this," could have been an active participant in the horror.

A mob of reporters was allowed inside Farook and Malik's rented Redlands townhouse Friday, getting a glimpse at how they lived.

Much of it appeared relatively mundane -- from a hanging clock to couches to many baby items like a crib, ExerSaucer and other toys.

But there were also hints of something more, like shattered glass, boarded-up windows and lists of items seized by federal authorities. The FBI always leaves behind such lists after a search.

Authorities searched the house earlier and found pipe bombs, thousands of rounds of ammunition inside the house and more guns.

The FBI inventoried what they found and returned custody of the home to the landlord. The inventory listed parts for guns, about 5,000 rounds of ammunition, tools, gun boxes, holsters, electronics, Christmas lights, a thumb drive, a laptop and a cellphone with a SIM card missing.

Asked whether authorities were concerned about media entering the couple's apartment, Bowdich replied: "Once we turn that location back over to the occupants of that residence or once we board it up, anyone who goes in at that point has nothing to do with us."


Arm yourselves and arm your families and arm your friends. Tell the anti-gunners to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

You cannot have declared a war on terror and not expect the terrorists to strike back. It has just taken them time to get their resources into place. Any muslim who is not a pakistani should be investigated if they visit Pakistan or in fact any other muslim country where extremist organisations operate. We cannot be niaive about this, the enemy does exist and it might be the muslim next door just as easily as it might be the muslim half a world away. We have allowed too many of these people to settle in our countries from places where the populations have been radicalised or displaced by war. Our compassion has been turned against us. we now have two options; accept that they are here and the risk exists or become radical ourselves

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-04   21:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#0)

As long as this is being discussed, has anyone forgotten the incursions by the Mexican military into the U.S. without response from our military. This has been 8 or 10 years ago, perhaps. What about the sniper fire across the river from Mexico into the U.S. Mexico wants back the Southwest. The purpose of these things might have been to test response from the U.S. A few NG people were stationed on the border for a time. Interestingly, they weren't issued ammunition. Even Barney got one round.

The point is don't turn your back on the Mexican border or the Canadian border for that matter.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-12-04   21:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: paraclete (#1)

Become radical

The ACLU wouldn't like that.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-12-04   21:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Don (#2)

Yeah, the Canucks are really threatening.

Don, what is your angle on that comment?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-12-04   21:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: paraclete (#1)

You cannot have declared a war on terror and not expect the terrorists to strike back.

GO FUCK YOURSELF. You believe in 0bama and this BS federal government that has destroyed America by doing nothing about terrorism in the first place.

Well, the federal goverment allowed NYC/Washington DC to be FUCKED and now, years later, they have allowed a hospital to be FUCKED. Next, YOU will be FUCKED, primarily because you believe in a government that has FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-12-04   21:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

There are probably many people coming across that border that we know nothing about, same as for the Mexican border.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-12-04   22:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Don (#6)

Okay, you might be correct, but I doubt it.

Thanks for the clarification.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-12-04   22:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#5)

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

BACKATYOU!

You talk like an idiot. It is people like you who get the government they deserve. I don't believe in your government, either this one or its predecessors, or its actions and am on record as saying so many times.

What I believe in is fairness, in doing what you say you are going to do, in not engaging in proxy wars and interferring in the governments of other nations

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-05   19:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: paraclete (#8) (Edited)

What I believe in is fairness, in doing what you say you are going to do, in not engaging in proxy wars and interferring in the governments of other nations

LQQK, princess, I am not doing anything other than suggesting that you exercise your rights, liberties and freedoms. While you are at it, try a little self-dignity. If you don't want to ensure your own rights for yourself, family and friends that is YOUR irresponsible right to perform. But, don't push your GODDAMNED government propaganda crap on me or anyone on this channel.

"fairness" doesn't exist, princess; I hate to break it to you princess, fairness has never existed on the planet since the dawn of mankind or throughout the ages of any group of men or women at any tyme. The umbrella of safety is not any government or rule about issues but the SURVIVAL OF CONCEPTS. One of mankind's best and most practical approaches towards survival is to protect ourselves COME HELL OR HIGH WATER.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-12-05   19:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#9)

You know I used to live next to Mt. Buckaroo, it is an extinct volcano and that's the way people with your attitudes are going, extinct. The concept that any one nation should rule the Earth is crap, unmitigated crap. Time and time again it has been demonstrated that the only protection is to band together in mutual cooperation. The concept that any one nation has a patent on the truth is crap, unmitigated crap. You are blowing off like a volcano because someone is challenging your ideas, well hard luck, tough titties as they say

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-06   5:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: paraclete (#10)

Time and time again it has been demonstrated that the only protection is to band together in mutual cooperation. The concept that any one nation has a patent on the truth is crap, unmitigated crap. You are blowing off like a volcano because someone is challenging your ideas, well hard luck, tough titties as they say

Evil and good cannot band together. The idea that no one has a patent on truth is a denial of Christianity. You need to change your moniker.

"A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-12-06   9:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#0)

So... GWBush think terrorism is not rooted in Muslim mosques

Yeah, the Muzzies just loved Bush

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-12-06   9:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GarySpFC (#11)

Evil and good cannot band together. The idea that no one has a patent on truth is a denial of Christianity.

take a course in comprehension I was speaking about nations not spiritual truth.

What I was referring to is the idea that democracy in the form you "enjoy" it is the only way it works.

If evil and good cannot band together why is you nation allied with abusers and those who deny human rights? Why does you nation protect despots?

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-07   20:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: paraclete (#13)

Our leaders have largely lost their moral compass and think the end justifies the means in many cases. In other cases, our leaders have fought one nation and then allied with that nation to fight a common enemy. Every nation has its bad moments when it is expedient to band together with a nation with bad leaders. That is the way of the world.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-12-07   22:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Don (#14)

That is the way of the world.

Unfortunately

paraclete  posted on  2015-12-08   1:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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