LF: Trump says the US can beat ISIS terrorists – but 'you have to take out their families'

Title: Trump says the US can beat ISIS terrorists – but 'you have to take out their families'
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... -ISIS-terrorists-families.html
Published: Dec 2, 2015
Author: Nikki Schwab, U.s. Political Reporter Fo
Post Date: 2015-12-02 18:23:05 by cranky
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Views: 11822
Comments: 72

Donald Trump said he would 'knock the hell out of ISIS' and he has a ruthless plan to do so.

'You have to take out their families,' The Donald said this morning on Fox and Friends. 'When you get these terrorists you have to take out their families.'

Trump's reasoning was that the fighters 'care about their lives, don't kid yourselves,' he continued.

The billionaire's comments fit neatly in with other proclamations he's made on how to take out the growing terrorist group including 'bomb[ing] the hell out of them' and 'attack[ing] the oil.'

Donald Trump said he would 'knock the hell out of ISIS' by going after relatives of the terrorist fighters because ISIS members 'care about their [family members'] lives'

Donald Trump also said he would try to prevent civilian deaths, but it's a difficult prospect because ISIS fighters are 'using them as shields'

'I would knock the hell out of ISIS,' Trump said this morning to host Brian Kilmeade. 'I would hit them, Brian, so hard, like they've never been hit before.'

While taking out ISIS members and their families, Trump said he would try his 'absolute best' to avoid civilian casualties in ISIS strongholds in Syria and Iraq.

'One of the problems that we have and one of the reasons we're so ineffective is they are using them as shields,' Trump said of civilians. 'It's a horrible thing, but we're fighting a very politically correct war.'

The GOP frontrunner was critical of President Obama's ISIS strategy saying the president was sending too few troops and revealing his hand a little too much.

'Every time he sends troops over even if it's a small number ... he announced 50 last week, he has a press conference to inform everybody he's sending troops and it's like they have a target on their back,' Trump said.

'If you do your job, do your job,' Trump continued. 'Don't talk about it – too much talk.'

Donald Trump help up a Breitbart News article headlined, 'Trump 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11' during a Periscope Q&A this afternoon <

Trump also again defended his comments about American Muslims celebrating 9/11 during a Q&A he hosted on the Twitter-app Periscope this afternoon.

The billionaire held up a print-out of an article by Breitbart News headlined, 'Trump 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11.'

'I knew I saw it. I heard about it. Hundreds of people have called in telling me I was right,' Trump said. 'They live in New Jersey.'

The Breitbart article pointed to a report coming out of the local CBS News affiliate in New York in which reporter Pablo Guzmán talked about a New Jersey apartment building 'swarming with suspects – suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center.'

'Police were called to the building by neighbors and found eight men celebrating, six of them tenants in the building,' Guzmán continued.

The Breitbart article made a lot of the 'swarming' claim, suggesting that this means that Trump is vindicated.

Breitbart writer John Nolte wrote, 'The fact that a certain number were brought into custody does not change the fact that there was a “swarm."'

CBS, putting out its own story, pointed to the clip and said it only raises more questions.

For one, there's no video footage of any 'swarms' celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers, which has been central in Trump's story.

Guzmán, the original reporter, eventually took to Twitter to straighten things out.

Guzmán said his source was a New Jersey and also a Port Authority police officer and 'they were told eight people seen.'

'Far from thousands,' Guzmán said, which is another aspect of the Trump claim. 'Still it disturbed folks.'

The difficult thing with Trump is this strategy is not wrong but his delivery is callous and he portrays america as mad. He fails to realise that while his remarks are for local consumption he is reported all over the world

Trump has also mixed reports of the palestinians celebrating 9/11 in his mind with local reports, yes, thousands celebrated in the muslim world but not in the US.

Noone doubts the possibility of a muslim fifth column in western countries and this is even more evident in Europe, however they have a muslim population of millions concentrated in major cities, a somewhat different situation to what Trump apparently envisages.

It is time for the west to push back against the muslim invasion and this has begun. It can be done with sensitivity by restoring their homelands to places where it is desirable for them to live. The west has responsibility for the present situation. The problems we have are the result of invasion of muslim lands. The reasons, the justifications, are not the issues from the muslim perspective

And all of his opponents in the Establishment, the "Seven Dwarves" up there? They talk smoothly. Of course, that's all any of them has ever done. None of them has a single accomplishment, other than giving speeches.

The world doesn't get to elect the American President. Americans do. If he sounds mad to the world, so what? The US and the EU don't like Putin much, but he still plows forward, effective and powerful, and popular in his own country.

The others with their oily tongues say it like it isn't, are very smooth, and accomplish nothing other than collect a paycheck presiding over defeat and decline.

I'm not longing for a Holy Crusade. Rather, I recognize that the enemy is not "youths", it's youths, and middle aged men and women, fired up by a religion. We are forced to fight because of the religion. And the nature of their religion is such that no Muslim can be trusted: on its own terms the religion calls them to perpetual war - violent physical war, not spiritual war - against everybody else until they conquer the world. And their religion explicitly allows any one of them to lie at any time to anybody who isn't part of their religion, because deceit is a necessary aspect of war.

Those are facts. That is what the Muslim religion IS: forever war against the rest of the world, in the name of God, with deceit always a legitimate tactic.

As long as a man or woman is a Muslim, that man or woman cannot be fully trusted, BECAUSE HIS GOD SAYS HE CAN LIE TO ANYBODY, BECAUSE his God says that he is always at war with non-Muslims. He can be peaceful, when it suits him, and he can suddenly attack, when it suits him. Because Allah gives him the right to kill every non-Muslim who won't submit, and allows him to lie in any manner, when he feels it advantageous.

That's Islam. It's not Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism or, for that matter, Communism, Socialism or even Naziism. The Nazis never pretended that any God gave them the universal right to slaughter any non-Nazis and to lie in treaties and break contracts at will, simply because they were Nazis. But Allah of Islam DOES.

Which means that the problem is ISLAM. Not "religion". Islam is the only religion that combines those particular elements of a license to kill, perpetual war AND a universal individual Muslim license to lie, at any time, to any non-Muslim, because of forever war.

We SEE Muslims doing just this too. Living peacefully for decades, then suddenly cooking off and killing their neighbors, BECAUSE Allah authorizes that and promises them heaven for it.

Christians and Jews and Hindus CAN'T do that. Islam is uniquely evil in this regard.

It is attacking us, and always has been. Now it's worse because immigration and modern weaponry mean Muslims are everywhere, and can do damage everywhere. AND THEY DO.

It's not a call for a Holy Crusade to recognize that the problem is Islam, and that you have to fight Islam AS ISLAM - you have to fight the religion ITSELF, AS a religion, because IT is the source of the psycopathy.

But you can't fight an evil god with no god. You can fend off a Muslim attack, but you cannot rip up the religion by the roots unless you have a comprehensive belief system to replace it in the hearts and minds of the people you have defeated. Otherwise, you sit there, like Soviets (or Americans) in Afghanistan, and they sit there and wait for you to run out of patience, money and blood. And they keep attacking you at the margins, making you bleed. And without your own God as an alternative, their god wins in the end.

So WHEN you finally go fight Islam, you MUST do it with a theology as well as weapons. Otherwise you lose.

Killing off the Christianity in your own ranks means that you have a weak political force facing fanatics. You lose a lot of people that way. Christians recognize that they are fighting Satan when they are fighting Islam. Muzzling the Christians to pretend that the fighting force is just one big secular happy fighting for abstract principles, or against the principle of religion in general, simply means that you're cutting off your own trigger finger.

You can defeat the Muslims in a battle. The only way to END the war is to take the Muslim lands you occupy and CONVERT them to new beliefs. Otherwise, the same old noxious weeds of God- inflamed fanaticism will rise again, as has happened continuously since the mid-600s AD.

You cannot fight troops without troops. And you cannot fight ideas without ideas.

You call the conversion part a "Holy Crusade". I would call it winning the war. But yes, you do have to bring in your religion, your ideology and persuade many of them to leave theirs. I suppose that is a Crusade in a sense: fighting a war against his religion, to replace it with yours.

You don't do that to Hindus, or even to Communists. They can STAY atheist if they want to. But when fighting Islam, you HAVE to replace their god, or you will never stop them. You can beat them in the field 99 times, but they come back for the 100th, and if they lie and catch you by surprise, you lose.

What do you think of the Planned Parenthood incident? People say it's on the same terms with what just happened.

To be an obedient Muslim you must follow the example of Muhammad and Quran. Problem is there were two Muhammads. The Mecca Muhammad was tolerant of Christians and Jews. He needed their support he was not in power. Once he conquered Medina he became the Medina Muhammad. He had power and a growing army. He dropped the tolerance and replaced it with conquest and submission. That's the Muhammad of Medina, of the Qur'an Muslims must follow to be truly obedient.

Exact opposite for Christians. Christ did not command conquest. When a supposed Christian goes on a shooting rampage they are being disobedient.

Most Mecca Muslims are gradually becoming Medina Muslims, and they are turning more radicalized each day.

Here's some (unrelated) news, they want to get rid of federal planning for Planned Parenthood and Obama wants to veto it! REALLY? He's going to ignore terrorism but put his cape on women's rights to spread their legs open and abort their "mistakes"? disgusting.

Seculars and even most Christians try to define Muslims as 'good' or bad based on obedience to secular laws.

Most Muslims mow their lawn, pay taxes and are law abiding citizens. The Majority in fact are model citizens. That makes them good citizens. Not really good Muslims or obedient Muslims.

So the ones shooting and killing in the name of Allah are actually being obedient Muslims.