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Title: House Dem: Obama Could Cause ‘Devastating Nuclear War’ With Russia
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic ... obama-risks-nuclear-war-russia
Published: Dec 1, 2015
Author: Joel Gehrke
Post Date: 2015-12-01 20:43:54 by Stoner
Keywords: None
Views: 622
Comments: 5

President Obama is sending an “expeditionary force” of U.S. military special operators to carry out raids against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, a move that expands on their decision to send about 50 special operators to Syria to coordinate air strikes.

“In full coordination with the Government of Iraq, we’re deploying a specialized expeditionary targeting force to assist Iraqi and Kurdish Peshmerga forces and put even more pressure on [ISIS],” Defense Secretary Ash Carter told the House Armed Services Committee in announcing the new deployment on Tuesday.

Although the term “expeditionary force” evokes large-scale mobilizations such as those seen in World War II or the Iraq War, Carter outlined a more limited deployment. But his announcement still provoked questions about the legal basis for the move, and caused one Democrat to warn of the specter of nuclear war with Russia.

In arguing for the additional force, Carter invoked the recent rescue of ISIS prisoners in Iraq and the raid in Syria that killed a top commander in charge of the terrorist group’s oil and gas operations. “Imagine . . . on a standing basis, being able when occasions arise . . . to conduct raids like that anywhere in the territory of Syria and Iraq. That is what we’re talking about.” RELATED: Obama’s Increasingly Surreal War on ISIS

He couldn’t, however, claim the legal authority to make such a deployment under the terms of the 2001 legislation that authorized the use of military force (AUMF) in Afghanistan and Iraq — the only such congressional authorization on the books. “I can’t speak to [that],” Carter told Representative Bradley Byrne (R., Ala.). Share article on Facebook share Tweet article tweet

White House press secretary Josh Earnest urged lawmakers to pass new legislation providing Obama with the explicit authority to counter ISIS. “This effort is serious, and should be the focus of serious debate,” Earnest told reporters during his Tuesday briefing. “It will take more than three weeks to pass an AUMF, but Congress, in each of these cases, must stop using the fact that these issues are difficult as an excuse for doing nothing.” RELATED: Obama’s Strategic Bumbling Is Theater of the Absurd

Carter got a hint of just how difficult it may be to sell Congress on such legislation when Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) suggested that Obama’s decision to place American fighter jets equipped “to target Russian planes” on the border between Turkey and Syria, and his stated opposition to Russian-backed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, could lead the U.S. into a nuclear war with Vladimir Putin’s regime. More Islamic State ‘Degrading’ ISIS Is Not a Serious Strategy The ISIS Threat Represents a Clash of Civilizations, and Hillary Won’t Admit It Obama’s Increasingly Surreal War on ISIS

“Russia’s installation of their anti-aircraft missile-defense system increases that possibility of — whether it’s intentional or even an accidental event — where one side may shoot down the other side’s plane,” Gabbard told Carter. “And that’s really where the potential is for this devastating nuclear war.”

Carter characterized the U.S. disagreement with Russia as a diplomatic problem, not a military danger. “We have a different view, a very different view from Russia about what would be constructive for them to do in Syria,” he said. “That’s not the same as the United States and Russia clashing.”

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#1. To: Stoner (#0)

Carter characterized the U.S. disagreement with Russia as a diplomatic problem, not a military danger. “We have a different view, a very different view from Russia about what would be constructive for them to do in Syria,” he said. “That’s not the same as the United States and Russia clashing.”

Wait a minute, isn't it the same Ash Carter that said:

"We're investing in the technologies that are most relevant to Russia's provocations, such as new unmanned systems, a new long-range bomber, and innovation in technologies like the electromagnetic railgun, lasers and new systems for electronic warfare, space and cyberspace, including a few surprising ones I really can't describe here,"

"We do not seek a cold, let alone a hot, war with Russia. We do not seek to make Russia an enemy. But make no mistake; the United States will defend our interests, our allies, the principled international order, and the positive future it affords us all."

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-02   5:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A Pole (#1)

Since Ash Carter serves at the pleasure of Obunghole, what does that tell you ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-12-02   6:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#2)

Since Ash Carter serves at the pleasure of Obunghole, what does that tell you ?

Obongo has tied Carter's hands pretty tightly. Carter and the Pentagon brass are far more eager to engage ISIS directly than Obama/Rice/Lurch.

We'll probably never know whether Carter could be a pivotal defense secretary because Obama is unlikely to give him a chance to use the military in a significant way.

Judging Carter by his remarks, he is a little more or a little less hawkish than Robert Gates, probably a little more hawkish than Leon Panetta was or Hagel was. In hawkishness, I'd rate them hawk to dove as: Gates, Carter, Panetta, Hagel.

Carter is not as weak as Obama/Rice/Kerry. Of course, we have had no acid test of that since we can only judge his words, not his actions or his continuity once some fatalities of a Syrian/Iraqi action on the ground start to pile up. But, on the surface, Carter is one of the least toxic of the Obama cabinet.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-02   7:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative, Stoner (#3)

We'll probably never know whether Carter could be a pivotal defense secretary because Obama is unlikely to give him a chance to use the military in a significant way.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter Implies Russia and China Are “Enemies” of America. What Next?:

[...]

he suggested that by boosting America’s strategic nuclear forces in response to Russia’s ‘aggression,’ the U.S. will become better prepared to deal with and overcome jihadist suicide-bombers and Saudi-Qatari-financed jihadist groups such as ISIS and Al Qaeda.

He intimated that, somehow, there is a sort of dual-use advantage of strategic weapons: their application also against non-state enemies. For example, America’s nuclear deterrent forces were useful in our killing bin Laden?

[...]

He went on to assert that America, by virtue of its exemplary troops and command-structure, has maintained the “international order” and attracted foreign “partners” in such a way as to lead the world in the fight against jihadists, and he then implied that Russia is trying to impede America’s war against jihadists, and that China, is also doing that, in some way (which he declined to identify). He said:

"At the most elemental, human level, our troops are attractive partners, they perform and conduct themselves admirably. I see this, and hear this from foreign leaders, around the world. They make us proud.

Despite that widespread appeal, some actors appear intent on eroding these principles and undercutting the international order that helps enforce them. Terror elements like ISIL, of course, stand entirely opposed to our values. But other challenges are more complicated, and given their size and capabilities, potentially more damaging.

Russia appears intent to play spoiler by flouting these principles and the international community. Meanwhile, China is a rising power, and growing more ambitious in its objectives and capabilities. Of course, neither Russia nor China can overturn that order, given its resilience and staying power. But both present different challenges for it.

The United States, and the men and women of the Defense Department, know that the good that a principled international order has done, and will do. But in the face of Russia’s provocations and China’s rise, we must embrace innovative approaches to protect the United States and strengthen that international order.

... in Syria, Russia is throwing gasoline on an already dangerous fire, prolonging a civil war that fuels the very extremism Russia claims to oppose. … Moscow’s nuclear saber-rattling raises questions about Russia’s leaders’ commitment to strategic stability, their respect for norms against the use of nuclear weapons, and whether they respect the profound caution nuclear-age leaders showed with regard to the brandishing of nuclear weapons."

[...]

A Pole  posted on  2015-12-03   2:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A Pole (#4)

What exactly do you expect to hear from an American secretary of defense?

The Pentagon does maintain a readiness attitude institutionally. Any SecDef is going to reflect that to a large extent. Their job is to put military options on the table.

Probably Hagel was the most bloodless SecDef since Xlinton's picks for the job (Aspin, Perry, Cohen).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-12-03   11:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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