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Title: Pentagon backs Turkey’s version of events, blames ‘incursion’ of Russian jet
Source: Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... s-version-accuses-russian-fig/
Published: Nov 24, 2015
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2015-11-24 11:42:22 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 6709
Comments: 52

The U.S. military on Tuesday labeled as an “incursion” the Russian fighter jet that was shot down by Turkish aircraft over the Syria-Turkey border.

Army Col. Steve Warren, the top military spokesman in Baghdad, confirmed the Turk’s version of events in saying they repeatedly warned the two Russian SU-24 pilots to back off.

Col. Warren used the word “incursion” to describe the Russian flight, but also said the command was studying radars and other data, such as radio chatter, to make a definite conclusion.

“The incident happened at the border,” Col. Warren said. “These things are not as clean as they are in the movies.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin in recent years has deployed his fighters and bombers close to the air space of NATO countries, such as Turkey and the U.S., as a way to try to rattle the allies.

This is the first time he has paid a price in having one of his jets shot down and perhaps the pilots killed.

Mr. Putin is backing Syrian President Bashar Assad, which is opposed by the Turkish government. Ankara is helping rebels opposed to the regime.

The U.S. sent F-15C air superiority jets to Turkey to help it patrol and defend its air space. Col. Warren said no F-15 was in the vicinity.

This “purely took place between the Russians and the Turks,” he said.

Col. Warren has made no secret of the U.S.’s displeasure with Russian bombing campaign in Syria. They assert Mr. Putin is mostly bombing moderate rebel groups opposed to Mr. Assad and devoting little time to the Islamic State terror army.

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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 21.

#1. To: cranky (#0)

"confirmed the Turk’s version of events in saying they repeatedly warned the two Russian SU-24 pilots to back off."

So they confirmed that Turkey said the Russian plane was invading their airspace.

Well. Were they?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-11-24   11:48:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#1)

So they confirmed that Turkey said the Russian plane was invading their airspace.

If you look at the map you would see that there is a finger of Turkey that extends far into Syria. The Russians would be fully aware of the potential to cross a border even though Syria surrounds the area. It would appear Turkey is trigger happy wanting to protect their relatives over the border or perhaps they are protecting more?

Any invasion of air space would be momentary and unintentional in a mountainous area and Russia should have avoided the area to avoid confrontation. It is likely the Turks have taken the wrong side in this conflict

paraclete  posted on  2015-11-24   15:37:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: paraclete (#16)

"It would appear Turkey is trigger happy wanting to protect their relatives"

Naturally, turkeys want to protect their relatives this time of year.

"Any invasion of air space would be momentary and unintentional in a mountainous area and Russia should have avoided the area to avoid confrontation."

The pilots were warned numerous times.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-11-24   16:36:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#20)

The pilots were warned numerous times.

In what language? This assumes they were even monitoring turkish transmissions. If you look at the map of their flight path you can clearly see they crossed turkish territory but the turks were quick on the trigger

paraclete  posted on  2015-11-24   17:03:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: paraclete (#21)

If you look at the map of their flight path you can clearly see they crossed turkish territory but the turks were quick on the trigger

This is a Turkish map.

Russians claim, not only they did not stray there, but that the bombing mission was west from this finger and that Turkish planes entered Syrian space to fire heat seeking missile at unarmed bomber.

Looks like August 1914.

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-24 17:10:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: paraclete (#21)

"In what language?"

Kind of pointless to communicate in Swahili, yes?

"This assumes they were even monitoring turkish transmissions."

Wouldn't that be a #1 priority for the pilot?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-11-24 18:34:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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