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Title: Putin: Russia will not tolerate such crimes as attack against its Sukhoi-24 plane
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Tass
URL Source: http://tass.ru/en/politics/838825un
Published: Nov 24, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-11-24 08:28:10 by cranky
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According to the president, the attack against Su-24 plane in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back" delivered by "terrorism accomplices" SOCHI, November 24. /TASS/. Russia's Sukhoi Su-24 attack aircraft was downed with an air-to-air missile launched from a Turkish F-16 fighter, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday. The Russian leader stressed that the Russian Su-24 fighter-bomber was posing no threat to Turkey. "Anyway, our pilots and jet posed no threat to the Turkish Republic. This is obvious. They were conducting an operation against ISIL," Putin said at the meeting with King Abdallah II of Jordan. Putin called the attack a crime and stressed that Russia would not tolerate it. According to the president, the Su-24 plane crash in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back delivered by terrorist accomplices." "Today’s loss is linked with a stab in our back delivered by terrorism accomplices. I can’t characterize otherwise what has happened today," the Russian leader said. The Russian bomber was shot down over Syria by an air-to-air surface fired from a Turkish F-16 plane when the bomber was at an altitude of 6,000 meters at a distance of 1 km from the Turkish bomber." Putin said. The president said the attack on the Russian jet will have tragic consequences to Russia-Turkey ties. Turkey's military attache in Russia has been summoned to the Russian Defense Ministry. 
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#1. To: cranky, redleghunter, tomder55, sneakypete, Pericles (#0)
Turkey's military attache in Russia has been summoned to the Russian Defense Ministry. NATO's members have also summoned the Turks. I would guess they have some very pointed questions and will demand more evidence than just allegations by Turkey. It was unwise to extend NATO membership to Turkey to begin with. As members, if they start a war with Russia by shooting down their warplanes who did not attack anything or anyone in Turkey, NATO will still be obligated by Article Five to follow Turkey into warfare with Russia. I'm thinking NATO will make it clear they are not starting WW III with Russia even if a Russian plane strayed over the Turkish border, considering that no Turks or Turkish territory was attacked. There is a proportionality to any response.
It seems to me the Turk downing was an ambush at the same day the French president is meeting with Obama and before he goes to Moscow to meet with Putin. Was this the CIA involved? Having France buck NATO to join up with Russia in Syria is a big deal and Turkey pretty much took a shit in the party's punchbowl and soured the potential hook up.
#46. To: PericlesTooConservative, cranky, redleghunter, sneakypete (#43)
Possibly ; the emperor was in Turkey last week conferring with Erdogan .
Good catch. And this meeting was known about weeks in advance so prior planning is quite possible. The GLONASS system used by Russia as their GPS system does have limitations and is not as accurate as our own GPS system. Which means it might possibly be spoofed locally by the Turks to make the Russian pilots think they were still inside Syria when they weren't. The Russians know their GLONASS system's weaknesses, they would know how possible it was for Turkey to do this, perhaps with some help from CIA or another NATO power. I certainly wouldn't put it past Turkey. Luring an enemy in so you can kill him is classic Turkish thinking.
Let me see if I understand your question,ok? Do *I* think the CIA is in charge of Russia and Turkey,and can manage the flight paths and actions of fighter bombers from two different countries in a remote region of the earth from Langley? A CIA that has a political hack director that is a political appointee of an AA President who is without a doubt the dumbest MoFo who has ever been in the White House? Of course. After all,the CIA controls the wurld,right? BOO! Scared ya,huh? That was my inner CIA agent coming out. We are everywhere!
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#43. To: TooConservative, cranky, redleghunter, tomder55, sneakypete (#1)
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#48. To: Pericles, tomder55 (#43)
It seems to me the Turk downing was an ambush at the same day the French president is meeting with Obama and before he goes to Moscow to meet with Putin.
#49. To: Pericles (#43)
Was this the CIA involved?
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