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Title: Trump Surveillance State Will Combat Islam - Databases and special IDs (Big Brother Donald)
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/trump-surveillance-state-will-combat-islam/
Published: Nov 20, 2015
Author: Kurt Nimmo
Post Date: 2015-11-20 15:18:07 by Hondo68
Keywords: Big Brother, Donald, false god
Views: 2383
Comments: 22
Trump said, “security is going to rule” under his administration. “We’re going to have to do things that we never did before,” he responded when asked if he would permit the use of warrantless searches at the expense of the Fourth Amendment. “And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule. And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.” He was then asked if heightened surveillance would require the registration of Muslims in a database and mandate special identification. “We’re going to have to—we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely. We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.” Trump also praised former NYPD commissioner Ray Kelly, the architect of New York’s Muslim surveillance program. Under Kelly the NYPD Intelligence Division conducted a suspicionless surveillance program of Muslims throughout New York City and every mosque within 100 miles of New York. The program extended to Pennsylvania, Connecticut, New Jersey, and other states. The program had the characteristics of an advanced police state—mapping of Muslim communities, photo and video surveillance, police informants, police “rakers” (ethnic cops who blended in Muslim communities), the widespread tracking of individuals and intelligence databases of the sort Trump endorsed. Muslims sued the NYPD over the program. In October the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals found the Muslim plaintiffs raised sufficient allegations of equal-protection violations and reversed a decision made last year by a judge to dismiss the case. Others have gone further than Trump in calling for draconian measures aimed at Muslims. For instance, David Bowers, a Democrat mayor in Virginia. “I’m reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and it appears that the threat of harm to America from ISIS now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then,” Bowers said. Poster Comment: How many Muslims do you see a day? Probably none. How many scared neocon statists peeing down their legs in fear of Muslims 10,000 miles away? A lot. The real threat is the neotard next door, begging Big Government to protect us while taking away our liberties! 
During an interview with Yahoo News, presidential frontrunner Donald Trump said if elected he will boost the surveillance grid to fight Islamic terrorism.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
The real threat is the neotard next door, begging Big Government to protect us while taking away our liberties! Nice summation, honddope. Seriously.
The problem is not Trump. The problem is what this half-witted society has been sold into believing is a definition of religion. Islam is not a religion. It is an advanced form of communicable mental disease characterized by a highly intellectualized aggressive paranoia which it continues to develop and which it has employed to justify killing hundreds of millions of people without conscience.
“We’re going to have to—we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely. We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.” Rush Limbaugh BEGIN TRANSCRIPT RUSH: The Drive-Bys are trying to destroy the two leading Republicans again today, Donald Trump and Ben Carson. They are doing a terrific job of taking Trump out of context. He was leaving the stage, I guess it was last night, he was doing a personal appearance somewhere, he was leaving the stage, he's finished, and a Drive-By gets amongst the autograph speakers and starts peppering him with questions. He answered a question and it's how the reporter is purposely misinterpreting it to say that Donald Trump last night said that he's in favor of a registration database of all Muslims in the US, and everybody in the Drive-Bys has run with it, and he didn't say it. We have the audio sound bite coming up to illustrate it. BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Now, I don't know if you have seen it yet today. There are stories all over the Drive-By Media -- the Associated Press, Yahoo News, I mean, it's everywhere -- that Donald Trump supposedly is calling for the registration of all Muslims in America. Trump is demanding that they all be registered and that a massive database be collected. CNN is all over reporting this. Even the Wall Street Journal has picked up on it. There's a problem, though: Trump didn't say it. I'm gonna tell you what happened. At a recent public appearance Trump's coming off the stage after one of his usual one hour to 90-minute appearances. He's probably worn out and spent, and there's the usual crowd of autograph seekers and supporters and fans, and amongst them is a Drive-By Media reporter who says to Trump, "Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims that are in this country?" Trump says, "There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what's happening to this country happen again." Reporter: "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" There's no specificity there. The question is just, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" Trump has given a multifaceted answer. She says, "Is that something," without specifying what she's asking about. Trump said, "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely," and that's how they report that Trump "demands a database and registration for all Muslims," when he didn't say it! He never said it. It's a Journalism 101 trick. It's right out of the manual they teach you at the first year of journalism school in how to destroy political opponents or powerful people you don't like. It's that common a technique. BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Now, I'm not sure, but I think that the reporter that asked Trump the question and has totally, totally twisted this purposefully to convey something that did not happen, I think the reporter works for Business Insider. I think the reporter is Hunter Walker. If that's who it is, you need to know that this guy is a major backer of Hillary Clinton, as most in the Drive-By Media are. He has written endless articles championing her, and now I think he writes for Yahoo News and is the Business Insider politics editor. So here is how this happened. This is in Newton, Iowa, yesterday after a campaign event. Trump's leaving the stage, and a reporter says, "Should there be a database system to track Muslims in this country?" Now, nobody has suggested that, keep in mind. Trump has not suggested it. So the reporter's not asking a question bouncing off anything Trump has said. It's just a question thrown at Trump, and it comes to him in the midst of autograph seekers and fans and supporters wanting to meet him after his performance is finished. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-wants-database-to-track-muslims-570364995937 TRUMP: There should be a lot of systems beyond database. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength. We have to have a wall. And we cannot let what's happening to this country happen. REPORTER: But is it something your White House would like to implement? TRUMP: Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely. REPORTER: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work? TRUMP: It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally. REPORTER: Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered into a database? TRUMP: It would be just good management. What you have to do is good management procedures. And we can do that. REPORTER: Would you go to mosques and sign these people up into the system? TRUMP: Different places. You sign 'em up at different -- but it's all about management. Our country has no management. RUSH: Okay. Now, two things about this. The first is, as I said, everybody in the Drive-By Media is running with this because they think they've got Trump again. They're salivating out there, folks, they are hoping, they've got their fingers crossed, they've doubled down, they're putting this story everywhere: Trump sexist, Trump bigoted, Trump anti-Muslim, wants a database; wants to go to their mosques to sign 'em up; wants to have them carry around symbols on their clothes to tell everybody who they are. And he never said it. This reporter, Hunter Walker, retweeted the headline from the AP. The AP headline: "Trump Says He Would Absolutely Implement Muslim Database." This little know-nothing reporter is so proud of his work today. This, as I say, journalism 101. This is what they teach you when you want to take out a political opponent or a powerful person you don't like, this is how you do it, with innuendo. Again, here's what happened. Trump comes offstage, "Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims that are in this country?" It's a setup question from the get-go. Nobody has suggested it. Trump said there should be a lot of systems beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it, but right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength. We have to have a wall, and we can't let what's happening to this country happen again. He has not confirmed a database. He has not confirmed registration of Muslims. He's changed the question to his favorite subject, the wall and the border and keeping illegal immigrants out. The reporter says, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" Not specifying. If anything, the guy's talking about the border. The last thing Trump said in his answer was talking about the border, strength, a wall. The reporter says, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" There is nothing specified. The use of the word "that," the reporter then can say, "Well, I meant Muslim registration, look what Trump said, Trump knew what I was talking about." But Trump's answer was, "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely." Reporter: "What do you think the effect of that would be?" "It would stop people from coming in illegally." Trump's still talking about the border. He's still talking about the wall. He says, "We have to stop people from coming into this country illegally." So how in the world can Trump be talking about the registration of Muslims or anybody when he's still talking about keeping people out of the country? Muslims are here. This is a good, old-fashioned hatchet job by this low-rent reporter named Hunter Walker who's got everybody in the media reporting it the way he wants because this is what they want people to believe about Trump. This is what they believe about all Republicans. We're bigots, we're racists, sexists and so forth, and Trump's just come along and confirmed it. And I guarantee you there's a contest inside the Drive-By Media to see who can be the one to take Trump out. Here is what they are forgetting. This isn't gonna hurt Trump. Even their journalistic malpractice is not gonna hurt Trump. They haven't figured that out. They keep applying standard, ordinary, everyday tactics on hit pieces to Donald Trump, and all that happens as a result is that Trump increases his support. Trump's support gets stronger. It gets deeper every time they try something like this because Trump is dead serious about protecting this country and its borders and keeping terrorists and so forth out of the country. He makes no bones about it. He's one of the only candidates that's unwavering on it. It's the number one issue. And you combine what's happening with ISIS in Paris and border security, national security, protecting and defending the country and the people who live here is far and away the number one most important issue because everything descends from it. The economy descends from it. Jobs descend from it. Everything that matters descends from this country remaining a country. It has to have a border. That border has to be enforced. Trump's the only guy talking about. They think they've got him. They're gonna be crying in whatever it is they drink. This is not going to rip the bottom out of Trump's campaign. It's not gonna destroy Trump's campaign no matter how much they're lying, no matter how they try to distort this, because Trump did not say he's in favor of registration or a database of all Muslims in America. And once again, what's gonna happen here is an ever increasingly aware and sophisticated public is gonna just get angrier and angrier at the usual childish tactics of the very unrespected Drive-By Media. Once the public learns what's happened here, the anger is not gonna be at Trump. There wouldn't have been that much anger at Trump anyway among his supporters. That's what they don't understand. You people in the media have got to understand something. You're gonna have to go about this a different way. You didn't make Trump; you can't destroy him. There's nothing you can do. And look at the lengths they're now going to try. Exactly what they did to Romney, by the way. This is no different than Harry Reid saying, "Mitt Romney hasn't paid his taxes in ten years." "Hey, look at Mitt Romney putting the family dog on top of the station wagon." "Hey, Mitt Romney, one of his employees' wives died of cancer, Romney didn't care, went ahead and canceled the health care plan, didn't care." I don't think this guy's questions were even registering with Trump. I think Trump continued to talk with his own framework in mind, meaning his focus on the wall. Because if you continue on with the sound bite -- keep in mind here that Trump's never talked about registering or having a database of Muslims. The reporter asks a fake question: "Is that something your White House would do, like to implement?" Trump answers, "Yeah." He keeps talking about the wall. He keeps talking about the border. "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely." Trump's still talking about the border. The reporter says, "What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?" Trump: "It would stop people from coming in illegally." He's still talking about the border. He's still talking about his wall. "We have to stop people from coming in illegally." Reporter: "For Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered in your database?" Trump has never said that he wants to register them in his database. He's talking about the wall. He's talking about the border. This idiot, talentless reporter says, "Well, for Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered in your database?" Trump says, "It would be good management. What you have to do is good management procedures, and we can do that." He's still talking about the wall. He's not even listening to this kid. He's walking out of there, he's answering the question, he's got it answered, he's on the wall, he's on the border, that's what he's talking about. When it's all over the reporter makes it up that Trump's talking about registration of Muslims and a database. Totally makes it up. Anyway, I gotta take a break here. I just wanted you to see this. I wanted you to hear it, the reporter's own words, Trump's own words because it's been picked up everywhere, and, mark my words, the next poll that comes out, Trump's just gonna jump even higher and they're not gonna know what to do with themselves in the Drive-Bys. But you people in the media are gonna have to learn something. When you don't make somebody, you can't destroy him. And you haven't made Trump. The media has nothing to do with why Trump's where he is, and therefore you can't take him out. You can try, you may think you can, but he's got a bond, a connection with his supporters and his audience that you people are not gonna be able to break no matter how hard you try. BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: So you know how this works? I just got an e-mail from a friend of mine who plays around on Facebook, and he sent me a screenshot of his Facebook post that he sent out, and he wants me to know that he's on top things. He says, "Yeah, Trump wants to register all Muslims. The last guy that wanted to do that was Hitler with the Jews! Come on, folks! We're going backwards." So I just had to write him back: "Hey, buddy, you've got it 180 degrees wrong. Trump didn't say it!" This is a guy that reads the news all day. This is exactly how this happens. You've got every Drive-By news source now reporting this. I'm not sure who the reporter was that actually got this whole thing started, but there are the suspects who have taken what that kid did and expanded it are all over the place. You could mention any Drive-By name out there and you'd be pretty close to being accurate about who did this. I'm not exactly sure who the reporter was at the Trump event. I was told one thing and now I'm told that that's not necessarily true. But the guy's name I gave you is still responsible for expanding, amplifying, and leading this. That Hunter Walker is who kicked it all off. Doesn't really matter. I mean, they're all the same stripe, and they've all got the same objective here. And this e-mail I just got from a friend of mine -- who's not an idiot, and you know, he's not a casual consumer of news. It's in the Wall Street Journal. This guy's a financial guy. He read it in the Wall Street Journal, and the Wall Street Journal to these guys is gospel. I have tried to tell every friend of mine, and it's probably gone for naught. I've tried to tell them just based on the way I get covered, and they know me and they know what's written about me is all bogus. I said, "Could you not apply that to every story you hear, particularly about people you support? "Could you just learn to not believe anything you read if it's defaming Republicans in the Drive-By Media? Could you just learn to be suspicious of it and try to confirm it on your own? (sigh) But it doesn't work that way. People believe it. "There it is! It's in print. It's right there," or, "It's on my screen, Rush! I mean, they can't write stuff that isn't true!" I can't tell you how often I hear that. So Trump's gonna... I don't know how he's gonna deal with this. He will, but... (sigh) Let me... I'm gonna go ahead and get in trouble myself here. Can I give you what I think might have happened with a lot of people when they first saw this BS story? What do you think? You're driving around or you're reading or whatever and you hear, "Trump wants to register all Muslims!" (interruption) Yeah. (chuckles) Get my drift? So I'm just marveling here. I'm thankful for the opportunity. I'm thankful I haven't retired. I'm thankful I've still got this program and a chance to come here every day and illustrate the dishonest, the reprehensible, the just scummy way these people work. And each time I see something like this, I focus even more on, "They're not media!" This isn't media! This isn't the news. The media is the Democrat Party. The media is all part of the left-wing establishment that's trying to advance the Democrat Party agenda. Every time I see a story like, "Trump has to fight media here or overcome media," I ask: Why would you have to overcome the media? The media's just a bunch of journalists telling people what happened who weren't there. (thumps table) Of course, this is the exact opposite. Everybody knows now, or many people. And even people who know what the media is, still get sucked in and believe this stuff. But when you read the transcript of what Trump said, when you actually read it or hear it and then compare it to the news being reported, you can't escape the fact that the media's making it up; that Trump never said it. Let me grab a phone call. We always try to get one in in the first hour on Open Line Friday. It's Leo in Northern Virginia. Hey, Leo, I'm glad you called. Hello. CALLER: Hey, Rush. Hey. You know, this whole database thing, you could take it one of two ways. Either it could be good for us, and we should all be in some sort of database. I know my wife and I... She doesn't even have a clearance, because I do. Her records got breached through OPM. So who's gonna keep these records and keep 'em safe? These guys have already proven that they can hack into wherever they need to. They can forge any kind of document they want. (coughs) Excuse me. So what's to say they don't go in there and maybe delete their names out of the database, or add it in if it's the safe, y'know, Muslims, however they label it? RUSH: Wait a minute. You're accepting the premise here. You know it isn't true, and yet you're accepting the premise. CALLER: No, no, no, no, no! Quite the contrary. I think it would be a big mistake to create a database. RUSH: Because the bad guys can hack it? CALLER: Absolutely. RUSH: Well, let me ask: "Do you think there aren't such databases in this country?" Who the hell do you think has them? If you think there are databases of people -- and we know damn well there are! It's called metadata from your phone calls. It's a database! Now, whether it's a database by virtue of your religion or your conservatism or liberalism or whatever, there are databases all over, and who's got them? The Obama administration has them! Not Trump. And Trump hasn't even suggested it. Remember Maxine Waters, "Obama's gonna have the biggest database anybody's ever seen! We're gonna know everything about everyone! Nobody knows about it but we're working on it. It's gonna be the best thing." They already exist, folks, and Barack Hussein O has 'em. Wake up! BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Even Ted Cruz has gotten in on this. "Ted Cruz Disagrees with Trump on Muslim Registry." He says, "I'm a big fan of Donald Trump, but not a fan of big government registries of American citizens." Even Cruz fell for it! The Republican Party, the establishment, may not let go of this. They may think they've got him, I'm sure. 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The average Joe turns on the news and hears something about Muslim databases/registry and probably thinks, "Well, it's about goddamn time!"
Your pill poppin' Lush Rimjob globalist spin does nothing to alter the fact that Trump is essentially promising to violate the US Consttution worse than Bush, Obama, Holder, Janet "Big Sis" Napalatano and the lying NSA team. He promises to "do the unthinkable". That's about as close to a terror threat as you can get without yelling "allahu akbar". Likely he's saving that for his endorsement of Marco Rubio. The Donald stands a very good chance of winning; much, much better than anyone like Ron Paul.
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
This lame effort should get Trump another few points in the polls.
Probably,but "winning" isn't everything. Remember,Obomber won,too. Twice. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
OTH, my source provided the actual comments, on video and in transcript. If that is globalist spin, we need more of it.
Electing a POS is not "winning". Ron is retired but I'm still thinking of voting for him again, anyway. At least I won't be wasting my vote on a New England progressive elite, POS Mitt clone. No, you did NOT provide the material quoted in the OP. You instead tried to sidestep the painful truth with some irrelevant progressive neotard spin on another quote. Cherry picking. You picked the part you like, and ignored the rest. Trotsky would be proud of his neocon disciple. We still live in a country where you can vote for whomever you wish.
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
Oh well, we always have Hillary.
Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS
You say that just like there would be an actual difference. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Community agitators from central casting. Actors. The D&R party has billions to throw around stirring up hate and fear. Then they present the D&R candidates, the dregs of humanity. The enemy within is always the hardest one to defeat because does no actual fighting. What he does is chip away at your strength while hiding himself from any danger. Think of him as drops of a slow poison dripped into your morning coffee each day. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
In what way? Please be precise. BTW,PLEASE note that I am no fan of that gasbag loser. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Please be precise. http://time.com/4120711/donald-trump-paris-attack-muslims/ My comment was based on the Yahoo News interview quoted above by Time, which they have since taken down. Donald hasn't given specifics, but neither has he mentioned any Constitutional amendment to permit warrantless surveillance and searches and the sort of police state he suggests. He'd likely have to repeal some of the BOR... 4th, 5th, 6th, etc. It's likely that NSA, the FBI, DHS, TSA, and a few dozen other agencies are already over the line of what's Constitutionally permissible, and yet Trump wants to go further and do "the unthinkable". It doesn't sound good for our civil liberties, or our Republican form of government. Get a load of this one on Trump:
He never does. He is a gasbag that just rants about "better management". So far he has "managed" at least 4 businesses into bankruptcy. It doesn't sound good for our civil liberties, or our Republican form of government. He is so incompetent if elected that he would make us long for the "good old days" of Jim-Mah Carter or Barry Obomber. I still think he is waiting for the "right" offer to drop out of the race. Or that he already received the "right offer" and that's why he decided to run. Make no mistake about it,he is a narcissist on a order so high he makes Obomber look like a modest and humble man,and he doesn't give a damn about anybody but himself and his children. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
How many scared neocon statists peeing down their legs in fear of Muslims 10,000 miles away? A lot.
#2. To: Fred Mertz, Pastafarian (#1)
(Edited)
Nice summation
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
Trump Surveillance State Will Combat Islam
#4. To: hondo68 (#0)
He was then asked if heightened surveillance would require the registration of Muslims in a database and mandate special identification.
Drive-Bys Lie and Claim Donald Trump Said Register All Muslims
November 20, 2015
#5. To: nolu chan (#4)
#6. To: nolu chan, *Arab Spring Jihad*, Presbyterian global caliphate, WW III (#4)
" I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule. And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago."
Allahu Akbar !!!
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#7. To: hondo68 (#6)
#8. To: misterwhite (#5)
The average Joe turns on the news and hears something about Muslim databases/registry and probably thinks, "Well, it's about goddamn time!"
#9. To: Don (#7)
The Donald stands a very good chance of winning; much, much better than anyone like Ron Paul.
#10. To: hondo68 (#6)
Your pill poppin' Lush Rimjob globalist spin
#11. To: Don, The Donald, New England Progressive, Mitt clone (#7)
The Donald stands a very good chance of winning; much, much better than anyone like Ron Paul.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#12. To: nolu chan, build a strawman (#10)
(Edited)
my source provided the actual comments, on video and in transcript
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#13. To: hondo68 (#11)
#14. To: sneakypete (#9)
#15. To: Don (#14)
Oh well, we always have Hillary.
#16. To: hondo68, fred mertz, green willie (#0)
#17. To: A K A Stone, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#16)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#18. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
The real threat is the neotard next door, begging Big Government to protect us while taking away our liberties!
#19. To: hondo68 (#6)
Trump is essentially promising to violate the US Consttution worse than Bush, Obama, Holder, Janet "Big Sis" Napalatano and the lying NSA team.
#20. To: sneakypete, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#19)
(Edited)
In what way?
“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before,” he said. “And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule. And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#21. To: hondo68 (#20)
#22. To: hondo68 (#20)
Donald hasn't given specifics,
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