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Title: Paris attacks: Where does Isis get its money and weapons from?
Source: Independent
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w ... s-money-and-arms-a6736716.html
Published: Nov 20, 2015
Author: Tom Brooks-Pollack
Post Date: 2015-11-20 13:56:35 by redleghunter
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Jeremy Corbyn posed a series of rhetorical questions when asked whether bombing Isis following the Paris terror attacks would make a significant difference to the situation.

In an interview with Lorraine Kelly on ITV, the Labour leader answered "probaby not", adding: "Who is funding Isis? Who is arming Turkey? Who is providing safe havens for ISIS. You have to ask questions about the arms everyone has sold in the region."

The Paris attackers were armed with AK-47s and identical suicide vests, while police seized a rocket launcher and a huge cache of weapons in terrorists raids in Lyon following the attack. Some are said to have been trained in Syria.

So where does Isis get its money, guns and bombs, both in Europe and in the Middle East?

Who is funding Isis?

To a large extent Isis is now funding itself – through oil sales, kidnap ransoms, smuggling, extortion, taxes, looting, bank robberies.

When it was starting out, Isis was ‘seed funded’ by wealthy donors –individuals and charities from across the Middle East, especially Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

At first, the governments of the Persian kingdoms openly gave money to the opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, including Isis. This has since become politically and diplomatically incorrect – but large amounts of money still finds its way to Isis from wealthy individuals from the Persian gulf.

Where does Isis get its guns and ammunition?

Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January, arms experts said that the ammunition used was almost certainly smuggled in from the Balkans, which was left awash with arms following the 1991-1995 war in the former Yugoslavia.

The suburb of Molenbeek, in Brussels – home to some of the suspected attackers last Friday - has been identified as a “breeding ground” for terrorism in western Europe. An automatic firearm can allegedly be bought in the area for 500-1,000 euros.

As for the Middle East, a study by the Conflict Armament Research Group, published last year, showed the militant group used ammunition manufactured mostly in America, China and Russia.

Isis took possession of large amounts of kit - including tanks, rocket launchers and howitzers – when it seized Government-held territory in Iraq in 2014. It is known to have smuggled in arms from places such Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria and Eastern Europe.

How much does it earn from oil?

Isis-controlled territory produces up to 60,000 barrels per day, netting the caliphate an estimated £1m every 24 hours, according to an estimate by IHS, an energy research consultancy.

Who is buying the oil – isn’t Isis-controlled territory saddled by international sanctions?

Middlemen smuggle crude oil and refined oil products from Isis-controlled parts of Syria and Iraq to Turkey and Iran. The Syrian Government also reportedly buys some of these products.

Because of sanctions, the caliphate, home to an estimated eight million people, also operates rather like a vast organised crime gang – dealing in cash and contraband products outside legitimate banking channels.

How much does it make from its wealthy donors?

It has raised around $40 million from such channels in the past two years, according to an estimate published in Newsweek.

How much does Isis make from ransom payments for hostages?

It generated at least $20m (£12.7m) in ransom payments in 2014, according to the US Treasury.

What sort of taxes are levied in the caliphate?

Religious minorities, such as Christians, are forced to pay a special tax, convert to Islam, or leave.

What is the Caliphate’s annual income?

It is reckoned to raise $2bn per year from the sale of oil, tolls and taxes


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Looks like the "JV Team" graduated to Varsity. The point in the article that Iran is buying ISIS oil is way out there. Don't see that happening. Turkey, perhaps...Iran no.Subscribe to *Islamic caliphate expansion*

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#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

Who is funding Isis?

To a large extent Isis is now funding itself – through oil sales, kidnap ransoms, smuggling, extortion, taxes, looting, bank robberies.

Stopping ISIS from selling oil should be a matter of stopping oil shipments.

The point in the article that Iran is buying ISIS oil is way out there. Don't see that happening.

If we stop the oil from being transported, no one will be able to buy it, correct?

tpaine  posted on  2015-11-20   14:26:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tpaine, tomder55 (#2)

If we stop the oil from being transported, no one will be able to buy it, correct?

That's true. However, we also want to pinpoint the parties who are buying the oil. You have to hit it both ways, but to bomb the oil production is a tactical/operational objective. Stopping those who are buying it and the middle parties is a strategic objective.

If your strategic objectives are not valid or successful, then the operational and tactical do nothing but give you a 'sugar rush' in the short term.

For example the US and ISF could not stop the terrorist 'rat lines' coming from Syria, Jordan and Turkey (even from Iran too!). That was a strategic objective not met. So on any given day US/ISF rolled up individual terrorists and on good days rooted out entire cells. Matters not how many we caught or killed...If the rat lines stay open, then more come in to take their place.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-20   14:41:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter, y'all (#4)

If we stop the oil from being transported, no one will be able to buy it, correct?

That's true. However, we also want to pinpoint the parties who are buying the oil. You have to hit it both ways, but to bomb the oil production is a tactical/operational objective.

Bombing oil fields is not an effective way of stopping oil shipping..

Stopping those who are buying it and the middle parties is a strategic objective.

So the strategic objective should be bombing oil trucks and oil pipelines, correct?

tpaine  posted on  2015-11-20   14:51:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tpaine, tomder55 (#5)

So the strategic objective should be bombing oil trucks and oil pipelines, correct?

No. Pipelines would be operational level targets. Oil trucks would be tactical.

Strategic would be dismantling the enablers of ISIS. Those who buy from them and support them.

If we meet the above strategic objectives, ISIL has very little outside income.

If we bomb facilities and trucks the enablers can replace such. Get rid of the enablers and no replacements come in.

That is why whoever is next as President needs a strategy instead of just blowing up trucks. Blowing up trucks looks good on TV, and 'feels' good. But the real strategic fight is cutting off those who support ISIL....the enablers.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-20   14:59:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#7)

Strategic would be dismantling the enablers of ISIS. Those who buy from them and support them.

That would mean confronting Ankara .

Meanwhile here is a more comprehensive report on the Islamic State money by Cam Simpson , and Matthew Philips of Bloomberg . The video does a good job summarizing it .

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-19/why-u-s-efforts-to-cut-off- islamic-state-s-funds-have-failed

tomder55  posted on  2015-11-21   6:35:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#18)

That would mean confronting Ankara .

And Qatar, Kuwait, and the Saudis. Most of all, the Saudis.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-22   17:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative (#23)

Saudi Arabia funds and backs the Islamic Front . The Islamic Front is actively fighting against ISIS. The Saudi government is opposed to ISIS, but no doubt many individual wealthy Saudi citizens have a hand in supporting ISIS.

I specifically mentioned Turkey because not only do they funnel weapons and jihadists into Syria ,and allows the transport of IS oil through it's borders ... but it also attacks the Kurdish fighters who are the most effective ground troops against IS . Abu Sayyaf who's compound US special forces raided , had been responsible for smuggling oil from Syria’s eastern fields to Turkish buyers.“There are hundreds of flash drives and documents that were seized there,” “They are being analysed at the moment, but the links are already so clear that they could end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara.” http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/isis-syria-turkey-us

tomder55  posted on  2015-11-22   18:49:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tomder55 (#24)

I specifically mentioned Turkey because not only do they funnel weapons and jihadists into Syria ,and allows the transport of IS oil through it's borders ... but it also attacks the Kurdish fighters who are the most effective ground troops against IS .

Turkey would clearly go to war on any newly declared Kurdistan, even if the Kurds explicitly disavowed any claims to Kurdish areas in Turkey in advance.

“There are hundreds of flash drives and documents that were seized there,” “They are being analysed at the moment, but the links are already so clear that they could end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara.” http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/isis-syria-turkey-us

Woh.

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