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Title: People there are so miserable ... the majority of them are alcoholics --- on antidepressants.
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/sanders- ... n-on-socialism/?cat_orig=money
Published: Nov 18, 2015
Author: Heytherenow
Post Date: 2015-11-18 15:19:09 by BorisY
Keywords: sudden jihad syndrome zombies, sudden jihad syndrome zombies, sudden jihad syndrome zombies
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Sanders, during his first debate, made a dramatic statement to the public and said: “We are going to win because we are going to explain what democratic socialism is,” the Hill reported. He went on then: “What democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong to say that the top one-tenth of one percent in this country own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent.” He cited Denmark as a case example of successful democratic-socialism. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/sanders-plans-public-lesson-on-socialism/#LAIuiEIeKCpdscGg.99 Heytherenow... Denmark is not the most successful democratic socialist. Go visit Denmark, Sander, and get your facts straight. Higher taxes and deeper in personal debts. Lower in educations. People there are so miserable, that the majority of them are alcoholics and on antidepressants. Poster Comment: retrogrades - reprobates ... vampires - parasites --- mad cow disease !
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#1. To: BorisY (#0)
Not quite, Boris. Even Forbes Magazine, which is dedicated to joyous capitalism, ranks Denmark as the happiest country on earth. All of the rankers that rank these things say the same thing, and with good reason. Truth is, Denmark and Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland are models we'd all do well to study closely.
Was the ... slave trade --- there too ! Equating opposites is from a non functioning brain ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Equating opposites is from a non functioning brain ! No. Ummm, wait... What?
I'm convinced all these leftist kooks ... msnbc - Colbert - sanders - ellen are so retarded - pathetic --- financially they are cia attended - supported !
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Ok. Maybe. But Denmark is still a happy place.
Sorry, liberals, Scandinavian countries aren’t utopias Want proof that the liberal social-democratic society works? Look to Denmark, the country that routinely leads the world in happiness surveys. It’s also notable for having the highest taxes on Earth, plus a comfy social safety net: Child care is mostly free, as is public school and even private school, and you can stay on unemployment benefits for a long time. Everyone is on an equal footing, both income-wise and socially: Go to a party and you wouldn’t be surprised to see a TV star talking to a roofer. The combination of massive taxes and benefits for the unsuccessful means top and bottom get shaved off: Pretty much everyone is proudly middle class. Danes belong to more civic associations and clubs than anyone else; they love performing in large groups. At Christmas they do wacky things like hold hands and run around the house together, singing festive songs. They’re a real-life Whoville. In the American liberal compass, the needle is always pointing to places like Denmark. Everything they most fervently hope for here has already happened there. So: Why does no one seem particularly interested in visiting Denmark? (“Honey, on our European trip, I want to see Tuscany, Paris, Berlin and . . . Jutland!”) Visitors say Danes are joyless to be around. Denmark suffers from high rates of alcoholism. In its use of antidepressants it ranks fourth in the world. (Its fellow Nordics the Icelanders are in front by a wide margin.) Some 5 percent of Danish men have had sex with an animal. Denmark’s productivity is in decline, its workers put in only 28 hours a week, and everybody you meet seems to have a government job. Oh, and as The Telegraph put it, it’s “the cancer capital of the world.” So how happy can these drunk, depressed, lazy, tumor-ridden, pig-bonking bureaucrats really be? Let’s look a little closer, suggests Michael Booth, a Brit who has lived in Denmark for many years, in his new book, “The Almost Nearly Perfect People: Behind the Myth of the Scandinavian Utopia” (Picador). Those sky-high happiness surveys, it turns out, are mostly bunk. Asking people “Are you happy?” means different things in different cultures. In Japan, for instance, answering “Yes” seems like boasting, Booth points out. Whereas in Denmark, it’s considered “shameful to be unhappy,” newspaper editor Anne Knudsen says in the book. Moreover, there is a group of people that believes the Danes are lying when they say they’re the happiest people on the planet. This group is known as “Danes.” “Over the years I have asked many Danes about these happiness surveys — whether they really believe that they are the global happiness champions — and I have yet to meet a single one of them who seriously believes it’s true,” Booth writes. “They tend to approach the subject of their much-vaunted happiness like the victims of a practical joke waiting to discover who the perpetrator is.” Danes are well aware of their worldwide reputation for being the happiest little Legos in the box. Answering “No” would be as unthinkable as honking in traffic in Copenhagen. When the author tried this (once), he was scolded by his bewildered Danish passenger: “What if they know you?” Booth was asked. That was a big clue: At a party, the author joked, it typically takes about eight minutes for people to discover someone they know in common. Denmark is a land of 5.3 million homogeneous people. Everyone talks the same, everyone looks the same, everyone thinks the same. This is universally considered a feature — a glorious source of national pride in the land of humblebrag. Any rebels will be made to conform; tall poppies will be chopped down to average. The country’s business leaders are automatically suspect because of the national obsession with averageness: Shipping tycoon Maersk McKinney Moller, the richest man in the country before his death in 2012, avoided the national shame of being a billionaire by being almost absurdly hoi polloi. He climbed stairs to his office every day, attended meetings until well into his 90s and brown-bagged his lunch. An American woman told Booth how, when she excitedly mentioned at a dinner party that her kid was first in his class at school, she was met with icy silence. One of the most country’s most widely known quirks is a satirist’s crafting of what’s still known as the Jante Law — the Ten Commandments of Buzzkill. “You shall not believe that you are someone,” goes one. “You shall not believe that you are as good as we are,” is another. Others included “You shall not believe that you are going to amount to anything,” “You shall not believe that you are more important than we are” and “You shall not laugh at us.” Richard Wilkinson, an author and professor who published a book arguing for the superiority of egalitarian cultures, told Booth, “Hunter-gatherer societies — which are similar to prehistoric societies — are highly egalitarian. And if someone starts to take on a more domineering position, they get ridiculed or teased or ostracized. These are what’s called counter-dominance strategies, and they maintain the greater equality.” So Danes operate on caveman principles — if you find it, share it, or be shunned. Once your date with Daisy the Sheep is over, you’d better make sure your friends get a turn. (Bestiality has traditionally been legal in Denmark, though a move to ban it is under way. Until recently, several “bestiality brothels” advertised their services in newspapers, generally charging clients $85 to $170 for what can only be termed a roll in the hay.) The suicide rate is 50 percent higher than in the US and more than double the UK rate. Party guests, even at upscale gatherings, report that, around 11:30 at night, things often take a fighty turn. It turns out that the “warrior gene” — actually the enzyme monoamine oxidase A, which is linked to impulsive behavior, violence and alcoholism — is especially prevalent in Finland. “Dark” doesn’t just describe winter in the Arctic suburbs, it applies to the Finnish character. Macho isn’t a problem in Sweden. Dubbed the least masculine country on Earth by anthropologist Geert Hofstede, it’s the place where male soldiers are issued hairnets instead of being made to cut their hair. But Scandinavian cohesion may not work in conjunction with massive immigration: Almost one-third of the Swedish population was born elsewhere. Immigration is associated in the Swedish mind with welfare (housing projects full of people on the dole) and with high crime rates (these newcomers being more than four times as likely to commit murder). Islamist gangs control some of the housing projects. Friction between “ethnic Swedes” and the immigrants is growing. Welfare states work best among a homogeneous people, and the kind of diversity and mistrust we have between groups in America means we could never reach a broad consensus on Nordic levels of social spending. Anyway, Sweden thought better of liberal economics too: When its welfare state became unsustainable (something savvy Danes are just starting to say), it went on a privatization spree and cut government spending from 67 percent of GDP to less than half. In the wake of the global financial crisis, it chose austerity, eliminating its budget deficit (it now runs a slight surplus). As for its supposedly sweet-natured national persona, in a poll in which Swedes were asked to describe themselves, the adjectives that led the pack were “envious, stiff, industrious, nature-loving, quiet, honest, dishonest and xenophobic.” In last place were these words: “masculine,” “sexy” and “artistic.” Scandinavia, as a wag in The Economist once put it, is a great place to be born — but only if you are average. The dead-on satire of Scandinavian mores “Together” is a 2000 movie by Sweden’s Lukas Moodysson set in a multi-family commune in 1975, when the groovy Social Democratic ideal was utterly unquestioned in Sweden. In the film’s signature scene, a sensitive, apron-wearing man tells his niece and nephew as he is making breakfast, “You could say that we are like porridge. First we’re like small oat flakes — small, dry, fragile, alone. But then we’re cooked with the other oat flakes and become soft. We join so that one flake can’t be told apart from another. We’re almost dissolved. Together we become a big porridge that’s warm, tasty, and nutritious and yes, quite beautiful, too. So we are no longer small and isolated but we have become warm, soft and joined together. Part of something bigger than ourselves. Sometimes life feels like an enormous porridge, don’t you think?” Then he spoons a great glutinous glob of tasteless starch onto the poor kids’ plates. That’s Scandinavia for you, folks: Bland, wholesome, individual-erasing mush. But, hey, at least we’re all united in being slowly digested by the system. http://nypost.com/2015/01/11/sorry-liberals-scandinavian-countries-arent-utopias/ Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Apples / oranges - fruits ... tomatoes - potatoes --- fruit - vegetables !
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Happy Boris Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Horse shit.
It is not immoral to say it, it is immoral that it should be a fact. What democratic socialism is about is actually redistributing that wealth. What is forgotten is that the poorest people those with no ability to generate wealth are a bottomless pit into which you could pour all the wealth of the world and they still would not be significantly better off. If you learned nothing from the soviet experiment you should have learned that. You can tax the wealthy to redistribute the wealth, all you do is convince them to move their wealth into tax havens and you don't get prosperity. Socialism is really about the state owning the means of production and state owned enterprises have a place in a developing country, but in a developed society greater sophistication is needed. You need a mechanism to mobilise capital so that the returns available from leaving funds on deposit are unattractive and the returns available from property ownership are inadequate. This might mean you have to turn western tax systems, which incentivise property ownership and static investment on thier head, afterall these systems have been put there by the wealthy to protect their investmenst
Make a good ad to ... legalize --- marijuana !
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And we don't have to reach Nordic levels of social spending.
Amazingly, the Danes, Finns, Hungarians and Swedes currently say it’s legal to have sex with animals as long as the animals are not hurt. But … how would you know? Given this information, why wouldn't you believe that? (Denmark, very recently made bestiality illegal) Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
The only thing TRULY bad about Scandinavian countries is the men.
I wonder what level of sociallist Spending the Nords will want if 50% of their population consists of sponging and militant "people of color." I wonder what kind of "paradise" you will consider them then. Do you think they would be a society we should emulate?
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
It is not a society we should emulate under any circumstance
The Soviet experiment was a lot more successful than you give it credit for, both in Russia and in China. Before the Communist Revolutions, Russia had mass illiteracy, and literacy in China was at medieval levels. There was no universal education. What there was, were famines every decade or two, famines that killed a lot of people. And epidemics also: they didn't have anything like modern medicine. The Soviet and Chinese Revolutions were brutal affairs, and many people died - one cannot sugar coat any of that. However, once the nations stabilized under their Communist governments, they had universal education, and near universal literacy, and they stopped having famines, and they stopped having epidemics also. The Soviets were (and Russians still are) among the world's most impressive scientists, and the Chinese are rising in the sciences and engineerings. All of that is directly the product of Communism: universal education, universal health care and government assurance of the food supply - three utterly massive programs that took what were illiterate, ignorant, backwards societies relying on witchdoctors and brought them, in a generation, into the modern world. Africa, which remained with the capitalist system of the colonial masters, STILL doesn't enjoy any of those things. The Soviet Union collapsed because the Soviet leaders were mad for war preparation and were unwilling to rely upon nuclear weapons as the safeguards of their security. They vastly overspent on the military, and bankrupted themselves. THAT is the lesson that we SHOULD learn from the Soviet Empire. China did not make that error, and the Communist Chinese economy, the legacy of the Revolution and the evolution of a nation that, thanks to Communism, has universal education, universal health care, and a stable food supply, is that China is now the largest economy in the world. The Soviet rise from ignorance to being a world scientific power is a legacy of Communism. So is China's rise to the number one world economy. One can easily dismiss these things with a wave of the rhetorical hand, but facts are stubborn things. The excessive wealth concentrations in America will destroy the American system, because Americans, like everybody else in the world - like the French and the British, and the Chinese and the Russians - will not, in the end, allow themselves to be impoverished and simply serve the rich. It's not going to happen. The rich can be clever, as they have been in Scandinavia and the Low Countries, and redistribute the wealth voluntarily. By establishing a high threshold for the bottom, those countries have not just improved the lives of their people, they have also even managed to preserve themselves as monarchs and nobles. That's the best way: maintain the familial character of a nation, but redistribute wealth sufficiently to have universal education, health care and pensions, and secure the food supply. The Soviets tell us that if you get the taste for military empire, you cannot afford all of the necessary things AND maintain a huge war machine. Of course some folks will yowl like boiled cats at these truths, but they are truths nonetheless. If we're going to learn from the fall of the USSR and the rise of China, we need to look at the real legacy of Communism. And when you look at Latin America, what country has the highest literacy rate, best medical system and longest life expectancy (as a result)? Cuba. Communist Cuba. The track record of taking care of everybody is pretty good, actually. The Communists mostly have done it. And the Scandinavian royalists. And the Western European and Canadian republicans of various fashions. The REAL thing that wrecks countries' economies is endless war and endless arms buildups. THAT is what destroyed the Soviet Union, and it is what is in the process of causing the United States to decline and fail. All countries can afford to feed and educate and care for all of their people. The land is fat enough for that. But no country can afford a huge military establishment. That will end up bankrupting even the biggest and the strongest: Rome, Spain, France, Germany, Britain, the USSR, and now the USA, all marching down that same path of folly. We could learn the RIGHT lesson. There's a good chance that my interlocutors here will never get it, though.
Do you consider American Blacks to be sponges?
GREENVILLE, Ohio (WRGT) — A violent attack was caught on camera in the Greenville, Ohio, Walmart store, and police say it happened when a customer became angry about another customer she thought cut her in line. “She grabbed me and she was like wham!” the victim, Deanne Kenworthy, told FOX 45. “I mean she slammed me hard.” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/woman-attacked-at-walmart-for-cutting- in-line/#0OgfrwLToOuv4AAu.99 American Gentleman > Junglemechanic They vote. They shop at Walmart using our money. If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
GREENVILLE, Ohio (WRGT) — A violent attack was caught on camera in the Gree Greenville, Ohio, Walmart store, and police say it happened when a customer became angry about ano another customer she thought cut her in line. “She grabbed me and she was like wham!” the victim, Deanne Kenworthy, told FOX 4 45. “I mean she slammed me hard.” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/woman-attacked-at-walmart-for-cutting-in-line/#0OgfrwL in-line/#0 in-line/#0OgfrwL in-line/#0 in-line/#0OgfrwL in-line/#0OgfrwL in-line/#0OgfrwLToOuv4AAu.99 Clover11111 • a day ago I've noticed and felt people just becoming ruder and angrier since 1/20/09. If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
What does your post mean, Boris? A woman was attacked at Walmart. That's unfortunate. There's a lot of crime in America. Crime is the legacy of poverty and ignorance. So what exactly is your point? I don't want to put words in your mouth. Why don't you just come out and say plain what you mean?
How about ... when the hens come home --- to roost ! Do you know what that means ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Certainly not all. But, to a large extent, yes. The blacks who aren't sponges say that, too. But day just be "uncle toms." Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
It's the globalist McCrazy neocon hate-America warmonger losers. They never really got over yukon... posted the wrong link, wuz hacked. Then "Gayer than Ted Kennedy" Willie-Mitt lost too. I've got some bad news for you Boris... your boys Jeb! and Marco Rubio are losers too! You misspelled "deys" and "bees". Gonna sic Lawyer Calhoun on yew,boy! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Is that Trump out on that limb? The hair and the fat seem familiar. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
A somewhat racist comment which I won't repeat, let's take the racism out of it and say that disadvantaged people everywhere are like sponges
That's like asking a monkey to recite the pledge of allegiance. Good luck with that.
Like ... this --- funny !
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I can't believe you still frequent that crap hole.
Yes no doubt the millions who died at tehe hands of communist reformers thought the same thing. What I take away from the communist era is that you cannot force a nation to develop and you cannot wet nurse the population. The soviets collapsed because they thought nothing of their people but exploiting them and their military adventurism. The Chinese had to give way to enterprise and without that they would not have developed a market economy. It wasn't communism or even socialism that triumped,it was the people.. I once knew a person like you. He stood in Shanghi during the chinese revolution and saw the bodies floating down the river and thought that the only way China could be reformed was by blood and it was a good thing. The great pity is that it wasn't the leaders who were bleeding and millions more joined them. The lesson is that no state can survive assuming responsibility for the lives of the individuals within it, the people will grow fat and lazy unless they work and contribute to the society. The Roman empire declined because the people became lazy and indolent feed by the state, the US empire is declining becuase it has too many unproductive people.
Good picture... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
A personal shot. "Paraclete." If you take such a name, see to it that you adhere strictly to the truth, in everything. And see to it that you do not let your wrath overcome your goodness. Otherwise you shall end up worse than you began.
A somewhat racist comment which I won't repeat, let's take the racism out of it and say that disadvantaged people everywhere are like sponges No. Let's YOU say that disadvantaged people everywhere are like sponges, because you believe that. For whom are you a paraclete?
the term means counsellor disadvantaged people have no option but to be like sponges soaking up the dregs afforded them. There are few societies that are truely sharing and the higher the capitalist tree they climb the less they want to share until you get to the pinnacle where the truely rich realise they should do something with their wealth, but what can a few individuals do even with vast wealth? Statistics tell us that most of the wealth is concentrated in 10% of the population and that is true throughout the world. It is impossible without revolution to relieve these people of their wealth and even when you do a new group arise. If you observe societies that have everything in common you realise that in wealth terms they have nothing but in happiness terms they have everything. Such societies have been overrun by capitalists seeking to exploit and this is seen as progress and development
Denmark is not the most successful democratic socialist. Go visit Denmark, Sander, and get your facts straight. Higher taxes and deeper in personal debts. Lower in educations. People there are so miserable, that the majority of them are alcoholics and on antidepressants.
#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
study closely
#3. To: BorisY (#2)
Was the ... slave trade --- there too !
#4. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
(Edited)
#5. To: BorisY (#4)
I'm convinced all these leftist kooks ... msnbc - Colbert - sanders are so retarded - pathetic --- financially they are cia attended - supported !
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
#7. To: Vicomte13 (#5)
#8. To: BorisY (#0)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#9. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
Welfare states work best among a homogeneous people, and the kind of diversity and mistrust we have between groups in America means we could never reach a broad consensus on Nordic levels of social spending.
#10. To: no gnu taxes (#6)
Some 5 percent of Danish men have had sex with an animal.
#11. To: BorisY (#0)
What democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong to say that the top one-tenth of one percent in this country own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent.”
#12. To: hondo68 (#8)
#13. To: no gnu taxes (#6)
Welfare states work best among a homogeneous people, and the kind of diversity and mistrust we have between groups in America means we could never reach a broad consensus on Nordic levels of social spending.
#14. To: Vicomte13 (#10)
Denmark’s Bestiality Problem: It’s Legal
#15. To: BorisY (#0)
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#13)
#17. To: no gnu taxes (#16)
#18. To: paraclete (#11)
If you learned nothing from the soviet experiment you should have learned that.
#19. To: no gnu taxes (#16)
sponging and militant "people of color"
#20. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
#21. To: hondo68 (#8)
(Edited)
#22. To: BorisY (#20)
#23. To: Vicomte13 (#22)
Crime is the legacy of poverty and ignorance.
#24. To: Vicomte13 (#19)
Do you consider American Blacks to be sponges?
#25. To: BorisY, Mullah McCain, Imam Mitt, *Arab Spring Jihad*, yukon wuz hacked, kanary klan (#21)
I've noticed and felt people just becoming ruder and angrier since 1/20/09.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#26. To: no gnu taxes (#24)
But day just be "uncle toms."
#27. To: hondo68 (#25)
#28. To: Vicomte13 (#19)
(Edited)
sponges?
#29. To: Vicomte13 (#22)
Why don't you just come out and say plain what you mean?
#30. To: Fred Mertz (#29)
#31. To: BorisY (#30)
#32. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
One can easily dismiss these things with a wave of the rhetorical hand, but facts are stubborn things.
#33. To: BorisY (#30)
Like ... this --- funny !
#34. To: paraclete (#32)
I once knew a person like you.
#35. To: paraclete (#28)
sponges?
#36. To: Vicomte13 (#35)
For whom are you a paraclete?
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