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Title: France 'declares war' against ISIS: Start of WWIII?
Source: www.prophecynewswatch.com
URL Source: http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2015/November16/161.html
Published: Nov 16, 2015
Author: WND
Post Date: 2015-11-16 13:35:47 by Don
Keywords: None
Views: 9282
Comments: 92

November 15, 2015

Reports are coming in that on Monday France will invoke Article 5 of the NATO Mutual Defense Treaty. NATO's collective defense clause compels all NATO members – including America – to fight alongside France against ISIS.

In response to Friday's series of coordinated attacks across Paris, French President Francois Hollande declared on Saturday that France would respond with a "pitiless" war against the group responsible. Speaking from the Bataclan, the site of one of the attacks, he stated, "We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless."

ISIS is claiming responsibility for the Paris attacks. In an online statement in Arabic and French which authorities say appears to be genuine, the attacks are called a "miracle" carried out by "eight brothers wearing explosive vests and assault rifles." The statement called Paris the "capital of abomination and perversion."

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The Guardian reports security analyst Charlie Winter said he has seen huge amounts of ISIS propaganda and he believes the statement is definitely from the group, though it was "put together hastily" and it is not clear whether the attacks that killed 127 people were directly ordered by ISIS or only inspired by the group.

International Business Times notes: "NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Friday the alliance would stand with France and remain ‘strong and united' against terrorism. Although France hasn't announced whether it will invoke Article 5, Stoltenberg told the Journal NATO's members stand ready to assist. ‘The important thing is we support French authorities in their determination to deal with the terrorist threat,' he said."

"The defense clause of NATO's founding treaty stipulates that if invoked, each of the members will assist the party attacked," continues IB Times. "NATO's military resources include more than 3 million troops under arms, 25,000 aircraft and 800 oceangoing warships, according to Foreign Policy. Economically, the alliance is also an intimidating force, representing more than 50 percent of global GDP. … The only time Article 5 has been invoked was after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the New York and Washington, which prompted NATO's participation in the Afghanistan military mission. Should France become the second country to do so, ambassadors of the 28 nations would need to convene for consultation to determine a plan of action. The last country to request such a consultation was Turkey after attacks by ISIS in 2014."

"House of War: Islam's Jihad Against the World" conveys what the West needs to know about Islam and the violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures and systems of government

Security expert Bruno Tertrais, senior research fellow with the Paris-based Fondation pour la Recherche Strategique (FRS), in speaking with DW, said, "I believe it is now time for a united front in Europe and along with our NATO allies to see whether we can coordinate better and act more vigorously against the jihadi terrorist threat in all its components. One of the things that will be discussed in the coming hours and days is whether or not the clauses of solidarity which exist in EU treaties and in the NATO treaty's Article 5 should be called upon and put into effect. Certainly on the French side, there is a hope that our European friends and allies will also contribute to the military action against ‘Islamic State' in Iraq and Syria in a more proactive way."

If France involkes Article 5, it is essentially declaring war, not just an authorization for the use of military force.

However the situation is complicated by the fact that ISIS is based in Syria.

"Russia is defending Syria to assist Syrian President Bashar Assad," notes SuperStation95. "When NATO goes to get ISIS, they will necessarily have to go into Syria … where Russia is defending. Will Russia relent and let NATO attack? Or will Russia decide this NATO action is a thinly disguised effort to unseat Bashar Assad, and cause Russia to battle NATO?"

Tertrais noted that Paris-style attacks could happen in every major Western city.

"It does not really come as a surprise," he said. "All the intelligence services and police knew that a major attack of the kind we had [on Friday] was not only possible, but almost likely. It is the kind of attack that police has tried to prevent for several years now, but it was absolutely not a surprise. Of course, it was a huge shock, especially because of the simultaneous nature of the attacks and the fact that for the first time ever, we had suicide bombers operating on the national territory.

"It's the combination of a new modus operandi, the suicide attack, with the number and coordination of the attacks which is particularly troubling and shocking. But that is not even the worst thing. The worst thing is that they could be testing us for an even bigger attack; at least that is a hypothesis that some of the intelligence services are working on right now. This tells me that there is both the intent and the capability to try to do serious harm to the French republic. And if they were able to do that yesterday night, they unfortunately are able and likely to do it again. And I am certain that the French government is also working on that hypothesis."

Speculation is strong that France's declaration will usher in World War III.

According to SuperStation 95, currently high-level discussions are taking place in Congress about whether to intern all Muslims in America, similar to the way the Japanese were interned during World War II after the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941.

"According to well-placed sources in the Defense Department," writes SuperStation 95, "inquiries have been made by staff from the congressional leadership, asking if the camps created under the REX-84 program in the mid-1980s are available for use? When told ‘Yes' the congressional staff revealed that discussions are taking place among the highest levels of U.S. congressional leadership about possibly interning ALL Muslims in the United States. … The prevailing thinking is that Muslims of today represent a much more dangerous threat than the Japanese during World War 2 and if the U.S. is going to declare war upon ISIS, it may be necessary to control the Muslim population within the USA."

Speculation about whether to intern Muslims in America go back as far as July, in the wake of the Chattanooga, Tennessee, shootings in which four Marines and a Navy petty officer were killed by a 24-year-old Muslim man.

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#1. To: Don (#0)

France 'declares war' against ISIS: Start of WWIII?

Bwahahahahahahaahahahaaha.................. Wow, France dropped 20 bombs on nobody. That really is the start of WWIII.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-16   13:37:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: SOSO (#1)

Did you forget to read the part about the NATO Agreement?

Don  posted on  2015-11-16   13:42:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Don (#2)

Did you forget to read the part about the NATO Agreement?

Did you forget to forget about NATO doing anything meaningful?

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-16   14:40:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SOSO (#5)

Get real. WW1 started in much the same way. So, you have a problem with France. They are the "surrender monkeys," right? They can't possibly do anything of significance? Well, relax. The article merely talks about what might happen. I'm sure the Obama Government will save the day. Mighty Mouse always wins out in the end.

Don  posted on  2015-11-16   14:47:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Don (#7)

So, you have a problem with France. They are the "surrender monkeys," right?

Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. IMO in general France has shown more balls in dealing with radical Islam and with Iran than the U.S. or any of its European Union buddies.

The reason why I state that NATO Article 5 will not be invoked is becuase no- one it NATO, including France, wants it to be, especially the U.S. The West simply does not want to engage ISIS on the ground. That is the INLY way that ISIS will truely be contained, if not substantially destroyed. And given that none of the Muslim countries in ME want to do this eiether ISIS will continue to flourish and we in the West will continue to cower at the sound of firecrackers.

Just look a what just 7 (or 8) Islamic maniacs did to France and the rest of the world. France is now a de facto police state. The U.S. is not too far behind. What rational American doesn't harbor fears of going to a mall, sporting event, or any mass gathering? What rational American parent doesn't harbor feras for the safety of the kids in their schools? What rational Americn wants to plan a vacation in Europe, let alone Egypt, Turkey, etc.?

Mighty Mouse has left the building.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-16   15:08:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: SOSO (#8)

The reason why I state that NATO Article 5 will not be invoked is becuase no- one it NATO, including France, wants it to be, especially the U.S. The West simply does not want to engage ISIS on the ground.

That is the INLY way that ISIS will truely be contained, if not substantially destroyed. And given that none of the Muslim countries in ME want to do this eiether ISIS will continue to flourish and we in the West will continue to cower at the sound of firecrackers.

The politicians are afraid of voter revolt,as well as the checks from Saudi Arabia stopping.

That is the INLY way that ISIS will truely be contained, if not substantially destroyed.

And given that none of the Muslim countries in ME want to do this eiether ISIS will continue to flourish and we in the West will continue to cower at the sound of firecrackers.

A ground war in the Muddle East is not only unnecessary,it is foolish. We have the ability to shut ISIS down in less than 48 hours if we had the stones. All we have to do is cut off their money by seizing all their bank accounts in the west and closing their borders to imports and exports. Nobody in,nobody out.

Yeah,we would also have to shut down the Saudi's too,but that is long overdue anyhow.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-16   22:27:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#39)

We have the ability to shut ISIS down in less than 48 hours if we had the stones. All we have to do is cut off their money by seizing all their bank accounts in the west and closing their borders to imports and exports.

For the life of me I do not undrestand why we do not do it. We have to know were ISIS's stolen oil is going and who is buying it and where the money is. It would be an easy thing to cut the money flow. There is something about this whole situation that really stinks. I fear that we little people will never know exactly what it is.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-16   22:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SOSO (#46) (Edited)

For the life of me I do not undrestand why we do not do it.

Because it would set a precedent,and there is nothing on earth,not even nuclear weapons, that scares the fascist globalist bankers than a precedent that allows nations to seize bank accounts.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-16   23:50:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#50)

For the life of me I do not undrestand why we do not do it. Because it would set a precedent,and there is nothing on earth,not even nuclear weapons, that scares the fascist globalist bankers than a precedent that allows nations to seize bank accounts.

The precedent has long been set. We recently did that on Iran - only to return the accounts under Obama's deal with Iran.

There is something else at play here. Rational people understand what ISIS is and what will happen of ISIS is not crushed. Yet these same people will not do what is in their power to do to achieve this. There is more than petty international politics and jockeying for position going on here.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-16   23:56:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: SOSO (#52)

There is something else at play here. Rational people understand what ISIS is and what will happen of ISIS is not crushed. Yet these same people will not do what is in their power to do to achieve this. There is more than petty international politics and jockeying for position going on here.

I've been saying for years that the purpose behind all the "black lives matter/minority "rights" bullshit in this country is the globalist goal of creating chaos and anarchy in the streets so the people rise up and demand government "Do something,DO ANYTHING,but stop the killing in the streets and make us feel safe again!"

The government,with the globalist bankers in the background pulling the strings,will be more than happy to do this. This wills start by declaring Martial Law and suspending the Bill of Rights "for the duration of the problem". Which will be forever because it places ALL the power in the hands of the politicians and their paymasters. Including the power to declare an end to the emergency and a return to Constitutional Law.

Working hand in hand with that is our political leaders importing every backwards 3rd worlder they can find into the US,and giving them the vote despite them not being citizens. And "Yes,giving non-citizens the ability to vote" IS what is behind Motor Voter and similar laws. People that have never had a Bill or Rights and who have never even heard of a Bill of Rights will have no trouble at all with a government that eliminates them.

It's all about globalism with the absolute authority to rule the entire world at the hands of a corporate board.

The phrase I coined to describe it is "World Wide Government,Inc".

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-17   0:06:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#53)

The government,with the globalist bankers in the background pulling the strings,will be more than happy to do this. This wills start by declaring Martial Law and suspending the Bill of Rights "for the duration of the problem". Which will be forever because it places ALL the power in the hands of the politicians and their paymasters. Including the power to declare an end to the emergency and a return to Constitutional Law.

That simply doesn't square with modern history, the history of WWI, WWII, the Korean War, etc.. Of what purpose did the rise of Hitler and WWII serve these so-called PTB? Perhaps you buy into Orwell's 1984 vision of the PTB engaging in pertial war against a propaganda created phoney enemy?

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-17   1:42:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: SOSO (#57)

That simply doesn't square with modern history, the history of WWI, WWII, the Korean War, etc..

Of course it does,but they were just steps on the path.

Or did you not notice that the German armaments and other industry pulled some cash out of their Swiss banks after WW-2 to gear back up and start producing both military as well as consumer goods,and are richer than ever?

Did you know that GM sued the US government for damages because the Army Air Force bombed their Opel plan to dust in Germany because it was being used to build trucks for the German Army? Did you know they won their suit and the US taxpayers had to pay up to rebuild their plants in Germany?

Maybe you missed the news about Poppy Bush's father being popped for laundering cash for the Nazi's during WW-2 while working for the Harriman Bank? Or maybe you think the Harriam bank and the other banks providing "confidential banking services" for fascist and communist leaders did so for free?

Maybe you even think no US international bankers like the Harrimans had their money protected in case the US lost the war?

Did you know that international bankers lent the money to both the French and the English during their hundreds of years of wars against one another? Or did you think the Kings were spending their own money?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-17   8:39:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#62)

Or did you not notice that the German armaments and other industry pulled some cash out of their Swiss banks after WW-2 to gear back up and start producing both military as well as consumer goods,and are richer than ever?

So the PTB destroyed the world's industrial manufacturing capacity, save for that in the U.S, killing tens of millions of people, just to rebuild it? And then rebuilt in such a manner to then devastate U.S. manufacturing capability, esoecially steel? Then the PTB engineer three major oil shocks that send their recently reconstructed global manufacturing plant into economic shock? Really?

Wow, the PTB must really must be stupid because if they really had that much power and control there would have been a lot easier and less expensive ways of accomplishing their objectives.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-17   11:30:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: SOSO (#69)

So the PTB destroyed the world's industrial manufacturing capacity, save for that in the U.S, killing tens of millions of people, just to rebuild it? And then rebuilt in such a manner to then devastate U.S. manufacturing capability, esoecially steel? Then the PTB engineer three major oil shocks that send their recently reconstructed global manufacturing plant into economic shock? Really?

Oversimplified and a little bitchy,but yeah.

Wow, the PTB must really must be stupid because if they really had that much power and control there would have been a lot easier and less expensive ways of accomplishing their objectives.

Oh,yeah! Compared to you they are idiots.

You might take note that the wealthy families from old banking money before WW-2 are even wealthier now. They made money tearing everything down,and they made money rebuilding it. They even gained more influence as well as more wealth for the rebuilding.

Hard to believe how stupid they are,huh?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-17   13:01:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: sneakypete (#71)

So the PTB destroyed the world's industrial manufacturing capacity, save for that in the U.S, killing tens of millions of people, just to rebuild it? And then rebuilt in such a manner to then devastate U.S. manufacturing capability, esoecially steel? Then the PTB engineer three major oil shocks that send their recently reconstructed global manufacturing plant into economic shock? Really?

Oversimplified and a little bitchy,but yeah.

Whatever lets you sleep at night.

The only thing that you expose is that smart people position themself near the seats of power and know how to make lemonade out of lemons. As you having a grand design and the power to implement it, you need an awful lot of weed come to that conclusion. But it is yours to do.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-17   13:09:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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