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Title: France names first attacker, vows to destroy ISIS
Source: Aol Reuters
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Published: Nov 15, 2015
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2015-11-15 12:13:21 by rlk
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Views: 1506
Comments: 19

France names first attacker, vows to destroy ISIS

Paris Terror Attacks: Officials Piece Together Assailants' IDs

PARIS (Reuters) -- Police questioned on Sunday the relatives of one of the suicide attackers who brought carnage to Paris on Friday, with France denouncing the strikes as an act of war and vowing to destroy the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq.

Paris prosecutor Francois Molins told reporters that three jihadist cells staged co-ordinated hits at bars, a concert hall and soccer stadium killing 129 people and injuring 352, including 99 who were in a serious condition.

Museums and theaters remained shuttered in Paris for a second day on Sunday, with hundreds of soldiers and police patrolling the streets and metro stations after French President Francois Hollande declared a state of emergency.

France names first attacker, vows to destroy ISIS *

Seven gunmen, all of whom were wearing suicide vests packed with explosives, died in the multiple assaults.

The first to be identified was named as Ismael Omar Mostefai, a 29-year-old who lived in the city of Chartres, southwest of Paris.

French media said he was French-born and of Algerian descent. Molins said the man had a security file for Islamist radicalization, adding that he had a criminal record but had never spent time in jail.

A judicial source said Mostefai's father and brother had been taken in for questioning, along with other people believed to be close to him.

Another source said police had found a car in a suburb east of Paris that was believed to have been used in the assault, suggesting that at least one of the attackers had escaped.

Prosecutors said the slaughter -- claimed by Islamic State as revenge for French military action in Syria and Iraq -- appeared to involve a multinational team with links to the Middle East, Belgium and possibly Germany as well as home-grown French roots.

Greek officials said one and perhaps two of the assailants had passed through Greece in October from Turkey alongside Syrian refugees fleeing violence in their homeland.

"We are at war. We have been hit by an act of war, organized methodically by a terrorist, jihadist army," Prime Minister Manuel Valls told TF1 television on Saturday night.

"Because we are at war we will take exceptional measures. We will act and we will hit them. We will hit this enemy to destroy them, obviously in France and Europe ... but also in Syria and Iraq," he said. "We will win."

France was the first European state to join U.S. air strikes against Islamic State targets in Iraq in September 2014, while a year later it extended its air strikes to Syria.

It had already scheduled to send an aircraft carrier to the region later this month.

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#1. To: rlk (#0)

Wow.

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-15   13:22:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ebonytwix, rlk, Willie Green, A Pole (#1)

Wow.

""We are at war. We have been hit by an act of war, organized methodically by a terrorist, jihadist army," Prime Minister Manuel Valls told TF1 television on Saturday night.

"Because we are at war we will take exceptional measures. We will act and we will hit them. We will hit this enemy to destroy them, obviously in France and Europe ... but also in Syria and Iraq," he said. "We will win."

France was the first European state to join U.S. air strikes against Islamic State targets in Iraq in September 2014, while a year later it extended its air strikes to Syria."

I would say wow as well except France approved the comical nuclear ban treaty with Iran.

In any event, Jordan and France tlak the talk, let's see if they walk the walk. I betting not as neither will get the support needed to destroy ISIS on the ground from anyone else, least of all the U.S.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-15   14:17:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SOSO (#2)

In any event, Jordan and France tlak the talk, let's see if they walk the walk. I betting not as neither will get the support needed to destroy ISIS on the ground from anyone else, least of all the U.S.

My information may be outdated,but at one time the French military was unionized to the point where they had a law stating they could not be deployed outside of France against their will.

That's why the French had/have the French Foreign Legion.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   14:35:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#4)

My information may be outdated,but at one time the French military was unionized to the point where they had a law stating they could not be deployed outside of France against their will.

That's why the French had/have the French Foreign Legion.

I never heard of this. A quick google turn this up: European Court of Human Rights; France: Prohibition of Unionization of Military Personnel Condemned

"French law explicitly prohibits members of the military from forming or joining professional groups that have the characteristics of a union. (Code de la Defense [Defense Code], art. L4121-4, LEGIFRANCE.)"

Another quick google search turn this up:

"French Foreign Legion, French Légion étrangère , Foreign LegionRemy de la Mauviniere—AP/Wide World Photosan elite military force originally consisting of foreign volunteers in the pay of France but now comprising volunteer soldiers from any nation, including France, for service in France and abroad.

Created as a temporary expedient in a French army that otherwise barred foreigners from serving in its ranks, the French Foreign Legion eventually gained a reputation as the world’s premier mercenary corps. For most of its history, the legion also maintained the exceptional status of being a voluntary unit in a conscript army. It lost this distinction when France abandoned conscription in the early 21st century, but it retained its elite status nevertheless. Today, with a strength of approximately 8,000 men, the Foreign Legion is one of the French army’s preferred units for overseas service. It saw action in the Persian Gulf War of 1990–91 and has since been sent often to Africa, as well as to Southeast Asia, the Balkans, and Afghanistan.

It would seem counter productive the have a conscript military that can veto deployment orders of the duly authorized government.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-15   14:55:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SOSO (#6)

They may not call it a union,but they can't be ordered to fight outside of France if they don't want to.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   15:15:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#7)

They may not call it a union,but they can't be ordered to fight outside of France if they don't want to.

Can you document this?

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-15   15:36:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO (#10)

Can you document this?

No,other than to say "Point out to us the last time the conventional French Army deployed to fight in another country".

NOT the Foreign Legion,the regular French Army.

Not as "peacekeepers/babysitters",either.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   15:43:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#11)

Can you document this?

No,other than to say "Point out to us the last time the conventional French Army deployed to fight in another country".

I did a google on "can french military personnel refuse deployment" and it came up with nothing on point. It seems to me that since you made the statement you have the burden of substantiating it. I in good faith cannot find anything to support your contention. The ball is in your court.

However I did find this article from 2013.

"After successful French military operation against extremists Islamist in Mali’s this year, the former French colonies – Central African Republic (CAR) sought another humanitarian intervention from France.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-15   15:52:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SOSO (#12)

I did a google on "can french military personnel refuse deployment" and it came up with nothing on point. It seems to me that since you made the statement you have the burden of substantiating it.

In other words,you don't understand what IIRC means,you can't prove I am wrong,so it is up to me to prove that I am not wrong?

Are you somehow under the delusion I am testifying in court?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   18:09:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#14)

In other words,you don't understand what IIRC means,you can't prove I am wrong,so it is up to me to prove that I am not wrong?

No, you asshole, it's up to you to prove that you are right. Grow up you moron.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-15   19:55:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: SOSO (#16)

No, you asshole, it's up to you to prove that you are right. Grow up you moron.

Even if I were a moron,I'd still have an IQ at least 5 times higher than yours.

Hell,you still believe Soviet propaganda. If an original thought ever entered your head it would die from loneliness.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15 20:44:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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