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Title: Ex-CIA’er to Ex-KGB’er: Defeat, Mr. Putin, lies in ignoring the Islamists’ words and waging less than total war
Source: Non Invervention
URL Source: http://non-intervention.com/1904/ex ... nd-waging-less-than-total-war/
Published: Nov 14, 2015
Author: Michael Scheuer
Post Date: 2015-11-14 21:29:00 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 8684
Comments: 50

From this distance, Mr. Putin, it appears that when you unleashed the Russian air force on 30 September 2015 you expected to save Bashir al- Assad’s regime and bring order to Syria and Iraq in a relatively short period of time. Well, the application of Russian air power is continuing, but only a month after its start, the Islamic State’s (IS) fighters responded by executing a superbly professional operation that destroyed a Russian airliner flying over the Sinai, killing the 224 people aboard.

Damn tough luck, Mr. Putin. It is clear that Russia has a serious strategic problem with the Islamists, but in the past six weeks you behaved as a reckless, ignorant, and really rather dumb jackass, as have Mr. Clinton, Mr. Bush. Mr. Obama, Senators McCain, Graham, Rubio, and Cruz, former-Secretary Clinton, Mr. Cameron, Mr. Blair, Mrs. Merkle, Mr. Hollande, and sundry other lesser European leaders.

You have behaved as if your air force would be sufficient to deliver victory, that it would intimidate the mujahedin into quitting, and that Russia would suffer few casualties as you unfolded in Syria a Russian version of the Cheney-Rumsfeld “cakewalk” in Iraq. The odds also are enormous that you never bothered to read a word of what the mujahedin have said and written since Osama bin Laden declared war in 1996, and so you were entirely ignorant of the kind of enemy you were facing. Frankly, Mr. Putin, these are very bad grades for a man that history will assess as aspiring to be “Tsar of all the Russians.”

Since the year of 1996, Islamist leaders, sub-leaders, theologians, field commanders, and fighters-in-the-trenches have said U.S./Western interventionism had motivated them to wage war, that they would kill as many of their enemies as was necessary to rid the Islamic world of Western military interventionists, and that they were waging a religious war, one that their faith required them to fight until they won or were eradicated.

The Islamists also told their foes that they intended to geographically expand their war as quickly and as far as possible, and that they believed that, while victory could only be granted by Allah, they could assist the divinity by inflicting casualties on their sophomoric, casualty averse- enemies. They also explained that, Allah willing, they would cause a steadily increasing drain on Western nations’ treasuries — especially that of the United States — which had already been bankrupted by the devastatingly destructive spendthrifts who govern them. Allah, it seems clear, has delivered in spades to those on whom his favor falls.

Whatever response you come up with to avenge the avenging IS attack on the Russian passenger aircraft, you must do it with hard but clear-seeing eyes. If you respond only with more intense aerial attacks, you will be playing into IS hands because a war that was caused by tepid Western military interventionism can hardly be won by more of the same tepid military interventionism. Such attacks will have little impact on the Islamists’ capabilities and manpower, will strengthen mujahedin morale because your reliance on air power will signal that Russia does not intend to win, will increase popular sympathy and clerical support for the mujahedin across the Muslim world, and will further drain your treasury, which is in even worse shape than the U.S. treasury. Moreover, such under-achieving but Muslim- killing aerial attacks will further anger the lethal and growing domestic Islamist forces you confront in Russia, the Caucasus, and Central Asia, and probably will hasten the large-scale attack those fighters are now planning to stage inside Russia. That attack is the post-Sinai shoe that has yet to drop, and when it does, Mr. Putin, you will look as much the bewildered ninny as those other “leaders” mentioned above.

What you are looking at, Mr. Putin, is the following absurd but all too real scenario. Only an enormous ground force — perhaps a million soldiers might provide enough shooters to get the Islamists’ attention — has a ghost of a chance of defeating the mujahedin. And you must keep in mind that even waging war in that way will not ensure victory. You will recall, Mr. Putin, that when you and your colleagues were still strutting, arrogant, and murderous Soviets, sufficient force was not used in Afghanistan and so the Red Army’s “limited contingent” there – the model for Rumsfeld’s “small footprint” — was soundly thrashed and evicted by the Afghan Islamists after Moscow foolishly had started this whole jihad mess by invading that never- beaten country in 1979.

In addition, if Russian forces fight a whole-hog war in Syria/Iraq, Mr. Putin, do not think that it will at all resemble anything predicted or advocated by the self-styled but always-wrong experts who staff the West’s counter-insurgency brains-trust — David Kilcullen, Max Boot, David Petraeus, John Nagl, etc.

–There will be no economic component to the war your forces wage, except for Russia’s deepening bankruptcy. It will have to be all raw, indiscriminate, and unrelenting military power because the enemy will not compromise his faith for, say, a modern, Russian-paid for irrigation system, highway, or mobile-phone network.

–There will be no hearts-and-minds component to the war because there are absolutely zero hearts and minds to win among the Islamists, their supporters, and their quickly growing number of sympathizers. The Islamists are waging a religious war and have believed in and welcomed the reality that their jihad will end in only victory or death, and that either ending is in Allah’s hands alone.

–There will be no diplomatic breakthroughs and certainly no “political solution” to the war unless you militarily annihilate the Islamists and then militarily impose either Russian or Western paganism on whatever Muslims remain alive in the Syria/Iraq Theater. You could thereby establish a temporarily stable situation which would last until the coming Muslim generation reaches Kalashnikov age. (NB: Mr. Putin, if any of your political, intelligence, or military advisers tell you that “all wars have political solutions” and one can be reached in this case without first securing a complete military victory over the Islamists, have them shot, drawn, and quartered.)

There is one more item beginning “There will be no” which is so obvious that it ought not to be necessary to state. Still, given recent statements by you and you foreign minister it may be worth stating.

–There will be no effective help coming Russia’s way from the United States, the EU, or the Sunni Arab regimes.

–You must know, Mr. Putin, that the leaders and the elites of the United States and the EU are (a) perpetual adolescents; (b) reliable moral and physical cowards; (c) pseudo-intellectuals who cannot — despite expensive educations and history’s lessons — conceive of the immense and ruthless power possessed by a religion at war; (d) vicious haters of their own citizens, butchers of infants and military personnel, and fawning lovers and protectors of the Third World dregs that are inundating and destroying the cohesiveness of their societies.

–These men and women and their preferred and pampered minority groups, Mr. Putin, are walking/talking dead-people who are smugly but blindly striding toward domestic turmoil and perhaps a revolution that will — pray God — destroy them, and, at least in America, allow the nation to restore republicanism, Christianity, the rule of law, and traditional English liberties. Russia, Mr. Putin, is better-off without such allies, as they are regimes that will turn on you it if they lose a half-dozen soldiers or if a few mujahedin-supporting civilians are killed. If you and Russia really need massive military help from the United States and the EU, it would be best to get out of Syria now, use Russia’s military forces to annihilate the Islamists in the Caucasus, and spend whatever money you have to close the border between Central Asia and Afghanistan, across which Russia’s primary strategic threat from the Islamists will come.

–As for Saudi Arabia and the other Sunni Arab regimes, Mr. Putin, you must keep in mind that for them there is no happier, holier, or more desired outcome to this war than the Islamists’ annihilation of the apostate Shias and Alawites and their humiliation and bankrupting of the United States, the EU, and Russia. Indeed, you may have noticed that the media is reporting that the IS fighters have never used anti-tank weapons against Syrian armor as tellingly and in such numbers as they have since Russia entered the war. There is, of course, no need to for you wonder where those weapons are coming from, or who is paying for them.

So there you have it, Mr. Putin, you and Russia are in quite a fix. But as bad as things are, they could be worse. You might, for example, have the United States and the EU as your allies. As allies, they would help you in the way they helped themselves in Afghanistan; that is, they will take a problem that required a murderous, 15-month punitive expedition — killing all that moved, demolishing all that stood, and leaving behind a desert named “Peace” — and turn it into a decade-plus disaster that has left the Islamists stronger and able to project power into Central Asia and Pakistan. Indeed, the U.S. and NATO repeated the kind of childish, half-way military campaign you and your Soviet pals waged in Afghanistan – including a ridiculous reliance on Special Forces — but it has cost them infinitely more.

Take history’s indelible lesson, Mr. Putin, expecting victory when tepidly fighting alongside effeminate post-Cold-War Western allies is a fool’s dream or an ignoramus’s expectation. If you are not willing to go all in and do your own dirty work until Russia destroys IS in Syria/Iraq, get all out and take care of your Islamist problem at home.

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

–You must know, Mr. Putin, that the leaders and the elites of the United States and the EU are (a) perpetual adolescents; (b) reliable moral and physical cowards; (c) pseudo-intellectuals who cannot — despite expensive educations and history’s lessons — conceive of the immense and ruthless power possessed by a religion at war; (d) vicious haters of their own citizens, butchers of infants and military personnel, and fawning lovers and protectors of the Third World dregs that are inundating and destroying the cohesiveness of their societies.

That, in a nutshell is the main problem. The real enemy is at home and not only refuses to recognize the real external enemy but wants to hold up a white flag if surrender, a welcome sign, then play footsie with them while subsidizing them.

rlk  posted on  2015-11-14   23:12:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

It really isn't rocket science to understand that a determined and militant West is required to fight and defeat a determined and aggressive Islamic force hellbent on establishing a world Caliphate. Only a suicidal West would roll over for people determined to kill as many as it takes to achieve their goal.

Don  posted on  2015-11-14   23:26:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Don (#2)

Only a suicidal West would roll over for people determined to kill as many as it takes to achieve their goal.

Islam has killed about 300,000,000 million people in it's path to establish supremacy over centuries including 88,000,000 Hindus in India. There is interminable horror expressed over the excesses of the Nazi's. Next to islam, the Nazis were just amateurs. In the early eleventh century general Malmoud sent carts back to his caliphs back home with 10,000 heads from India to show how well he was doing with the infidels.

rlk  posted on  2015-11-15   0:28:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rlk (#7)

Yes, the Muzzes don't care how many people they kill.they would happily kill every man, woman, and child in a country to take over lands for their God.

Don  posted on  2015-11-15   5:03:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Don (#10) (Edited)

Yes, the Muzzes don't care how many people they kill.they would happily kill every man, woman, and child in a country to take over lands for their God

Was America an empty land when the European settlers came?

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-15   5:31:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A Pole (#12)

Was America an empty land when the European settlers came.

Was eastern Europe?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   5:41:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#15)

Was eastern Europe?

Actually it was quite empty. Germanic tribes like Goths, Vandals and others migrated West/South to carve their states on Roman territory.

Then in 6th century Slaves led by Avars came from today Ukraine/Belarus. Possibly few centuries earlier Slaves formed under Finnish and Iranian tribes influence on the western/southern slopes of Ural Mountains before starting their migration.

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-15   8:57:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A Pole (#20)

Was eastern Europe?

Actually it was quite empty.

Actually,everywhere in the known world was "quite empty" 2000 years ago.

The Mari were just one of,and probably the most populous people inhabiting what is now called "Russia" when whites started moving into that land mass from what is now called the Scandinavian countries and western Europe.

Most of the "native peoples" have long since disappeared and been forgotten.

And even that is assuming that THEY were the "original peoples" of those areas,and not invaders themselves.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   9:38:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#25)

The Mari were just one of,and probably the most populous people inhabiting what is now called "Russia" when whites started moving into that land mass from what is now called the Scandinavian countries and western Europe.

Maris like large part of tribes living in forests and steppes of Russia got Russified and merged in this old melting pot. Russians have a lot Finno-Ugric and other non Slavic blood in their veins.

Do those Mari people look non white to you?

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-15   9:54:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A Pole (#26)

Do those Mari people look non white to you?

They look like Cossack's dressed up in costumes,and neither they nor their costumes look the tiniest bit Mari.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   9:59:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#28)

They look like Cossack's dressed up in costumes,and neither they nor their costumes look the tiniest bit Mari.

Cossack have mixed blood, Slavic, Turkish, and yes Ugro-Finnish like Maris.

Go there and tell Maris that they are fake and that their traditions and language are made up.

http://europeanpeoples.imb.org/explore/view/mari-photo-gallery

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-15   10:10:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A Pole (#30)

Go there and tell Maris that they are fake and that their traditions and language are made up.

I've been there,visited with actual Mari's,or as close as you can come to one today,which is half-Mari,and visited the Mari Museum in Yoshkar-Ola.

I even personally know the woman who wrote the first dictionary of the Mari language.

And you?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   14:28:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#31)

I've been there,visited with actual Mari's,or as close as you can come to one today

Really? So show the photos to prove that Ugro-Finnish Maris are not white.

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-15   19:08:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A Pole (#34)

Really? So show the photos to prove that Ugro-Finnish Maris are not white.

I knew you are a comrade,thus as dumb as a month old turd,but apparently you are even dumber than that.

The Mari looked more like American Indians than white people,and even dressed in buckskins,wore feathers in their hair,and lived in teepees.

The photos you keep posting are Stalinist-era photos of "Russianized" Mari's after Stalin forced them all into cities like Yoskhar-Ola,and moved a bunch of white Russians into the Mari Republic to live with and mix with them. They are photos of Russians with MAYBE 1/4 Mari blood wearing traditional Russian and Ukranian dress.

As for the Finns that speak the Mari language,they look like Eskimos,not the Scandinavians that took over their islands.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-15   19:17:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#37) (Edited)

The Mari looked more like American Indians [...]

The photos you keep posting are Stalinist-era photos of "Russianized" Mari's after Stalin forced them all into cities like Yoskhar-Ola,and moved a bunch of white Russians into the Mari Republic to live with and mix with them.

Your obsession with racial purity is not so healthy as you think. So, you think "non white" Maris got better or worse by admixture of "white" blood?

Second, I did not have access to some mysterious archives of "Stalinist-era" photos (with very advanced colors), I just Google for them and picked the ones came first excluding Maori from New Zealand (I hope you did not get confused by them?)

Third, were you really there, and spreading such ideas?

Fourth, the photos I posted before came from a Protestant website International Mission Board. They went there several times.

Let me try again, here is from another website, http://imgbuddy.com/mari-people.asp

I guess that you cannot wrap your mind around idea that there is another white races like Ugro-Finnish. The similarity between them and Russians comes from the fact that Russia came from the merge of Slavic, Ugro-Finish and others.

About the dress, there were multiple influences, in multiple directions during the countless centuries.

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-16   2:38:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A Pole (#39) (Edited)

Your obsession with racial purity is not so healthy as you think.

You really are a total fucking idiot. My grandmother was a full-blooded Tuscarora Indian.

So, you think "non white" Maris got better or worse by admixture of "white" blood?

If you have blonde hair,blue eyes,and Slavic features,you are NOT a Mari. You are a Russian playing dress up.

Second, I did not have access to some mysterious archives of "Stalinist-era" photos (with very advanced colors), I just Google for them and picked the ones came first excluding Maori from New Zealand (I hope you did not get confused by them?)

No shit,Sherlock! IF you had ever been to the Mari Republic and gone to the Mari Museum you would be slightly less delusional than you are now because you would have seen photos of full-blooded Mari people that were taken BEFORE (get someone with patience to explain the concept of "before" to you) Stalinization happened and all the white Russians were moved into the Republic,everyone was forced to speak Russian and dress Russian,and before the Mari began to disappear as a race of people who had been living in that area since the Stone Age.

I just Google for them and picked the ones came first

WOW! THERE is a surprise!

excluding Maori from New Zealand (I hope you did not get confused by them?)

I'm not the one that is confused,nor am I the one that is an ignorant fool.

Fourth, the photos I posted before came from a Protestant website International Mission Board.

Yup,if you want to find historic facts about people that existed before the creation of Christianity,the one place you want to go for the facts are Christian missionaries that are there to recruit. I actually know one of these women personally. She lives maybe 5 miles from me and I have know her,her brothers,and her sister since they were in high school. She went "on missions" to Russia twice,and was planning on going again,but all those little "mini-vacations" is psychiatric lockup kept interfering.

They went there several times.

And of course they went there before 1920,right?

You fit every stereotype of the stupid Pole that has ever existed. You are not only incapable of actual thought,but you don't even understand what you read.

You are actually so stupid you take photos from 2015 as illustrations of what people looked like in 1915 in a country that was given a total makeover at bayonet point by Stalin.

In Finland,their cousins the Saami were just invaded and outbred. Look at this photo of a Saami family taken in 1900 and compare that to the photos you took of PEOPLE in the Mari Republic taken in recent years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people#/media/File:Saami_Family_1900.jpg

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-16   6:32:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#41)

If you have blonde hair,blue eyes,and Slavic features,you are NOT a Mari. You are a Russian playing dress up.

As I said northern/eastern Slavic features are very impacted by large Ugro-Finnish ancestry,

Why Russians would play dress up and memorize Mari songs? To deceive naive Westerners and to take over Mari identity? You mean like American hippies imitating Indians?

Anthropologically among Ugro-Finnish native Maris are comparable in pigmentation to Hungarians, a little darker, but with more frequent red hair.

Blond haired are in minority (7% versus 6% for Hungarians), quite a few brown hair. Just remember that today very many women bleach their hair to look blond, so you will see more "blondes" among Mari women.

Light eyed Mari 27.6% versus 34% Hungarian.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4583817/1/

A Pole  posted on  2015-11-16   7:27:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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