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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: BREAKING: At least 35 reported dead, 100 hostages taken in Paris attacks Source: Fox News URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1 ... ootout-and-explosion-in-paris/ Published: Nov 13, 2015 Author: Fox news Post Date: 2015-11-13 18:17:47 by redleghunter Ping List: *Islamic caliphate expansion*     Subscribe to *Islamic caliphate expansion* Keywords: None Views: 9193 Comments: 96 DEVELOPING - At least 35 people were killed and more than 100 hostages were being held in Paris Friday night, after at least three coordinated terror attacks rocked the French capital and prompted President Francois Hollande to order the entire nation's borders closed. The attacks are believed to have involved at least two suicide bombers, including one which detonated near the city's Stade de France, soccer stadium where the French and German national teams were playing in a match attended by Hollande. Simultaneous attacks are a trademark of terrorist operations. Click for Full Text! Subscribe to *Islamic caliphate expansion* Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 50. #6. To: Vicomte13 (#0) Do you see this??? ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-13   18:31:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: ebonytwix (#6) Do you see this??? Of course. The responsible must be hunted down and killed, and there must be retaliation against the source. But as long as there is Islam, there will be this sort of barbarism. It's never gone away since Islam first exploded out of the desert, and it never will as long as there is Islam. 98% of what the Koran says matches the Jewish Scriptures in law. But that 2% variation is where it goes murderous and pathological. And unfortunately that 2% can't be rooted out. It's a living, breathing example of "Bob's Non-Reciprocal Law of Sewage". Vicomte13  posted on  2015-11-13   22:31:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: Vicomte13 (#40) Is it true Islam always want to impose itself on different groups and can't get along? Or is it people exaggerating things? ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-14   0:23:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 50. #58. To: ebonytwix, *Islamic caliphate expansion* (#50) Is it true Islam always want to impose itself on different groups and can't get along? Or is it people exaggerating things? While in Iraq I met some of the hardest working people who loved their families and lived peacefully. Unfortunately they get killed by the majority of psychopaths in their region. There are not enough of the good ones. The good ones die or are threatened into compliance. Just how it is in most of the ME Muslim countries. redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14 00:59:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: ebonytwix (#50) (Edited) Is it true Islam always want to impose itself on different groups and can't get along? Or is it people exaggerating things? The World Trade Center, Kuta, Madrid, London, Paris - obviously these things are not exaggerations. Obviously the problem lies within Islam, both as a religion and as a culture. From a purely religious standpoint, the Koran mostly reads like the Old Testament, with one distinction: the Hebrews were told to go into Canaan and take it all, slaughtering everybody in the Promised land who did not flee before them, until all of that land was theirs. In the Koran, Allah told the Muslims the same thing, except that the Promised Land was the whole planet, and the defeated peoples did not need to be slaughtered if they submitted and converted (submission and conversion was not an option given to the Canaanites, only flee or die). Of course, YHWH gave the Canaanites somewhere to flee TO - anywhere outside of Canaan. But Allah gives Muslims the whole world and everybody in it, according to the Koran. Now, this is as hard to deal with as anything else in a people's Scripture, and Middle Eastern culture in general makes it that much harder. After all, Christ demands of Christians some very hard things regarding money (namely: don't accumulate it, give it away to the poor, don't charge interest, don't be sexually immoral). But Christ came into an Israel that had been dominated by Greek culture for three centuries before his birth, and the Christian religion spread widely among the pagans of a rich and decadent Roman Empire (90% of the Jews rejected him as a false prophet and blasphemer). So in Christendom you've always had the situation where the moral opinions of God clashed pretty violently with the culture of the society, and for the most part, Western culture has prevailed over the actual teachings of Christ - Westerners have remained violent, lusty and greedy, and Christ's teachings are honored in the breach. In fact, the unwillingness or inability of Western culture to really ACT the ways Christ commanded has given risen to the famous dodge in Christianity that "everyone's a sinner", so Christians don't EXPECT to be able to live up to Christ's commands, accept that they're sinners, and continue to amass money, charge interest, run empires and be sexually immoral. Western culture ultimately prevailed over the moral message of Christianity, because Western culture was much more PLEASANT than the demands of Christianity. France, Italy, Spain, California, Florida, New York...people love visiting these places precisely because they're opulent and fun in all the ways that Christ says not to be. So, with Christendom, the religion has always been in pretty violent conflict with the culture, and the only way to try to bring the culture in line was with things like the Spanish Inquisition and the Puritan dictatorship . These were fanatical Christian wars against the culture itself, and in the end they failed because Christian Western people would not tolerate being made to live FULLY in line with their religion. They preferred, and prefer, Christianity as a background refuge for weary souls, to the broad, relatively tolerant, and sinful Western culture. Ultimately the culture and the religion are at war with each other in the West, with the culture de-fanging the religion of the power to impose the things people do not want to do, and the religion acting as a governor on the wildest excesses. (Example: Christians stopped EXECUTING gays and witches a few hundred years ago, but it's only in the present-day general weakening of Christianity that gays and witches actually dare walk the streets and boast.) If we go to the Middle East, though, we find that the ancient culture there meshes almost perfectly with the religion. Allah doesn't ask the Middle Easterners to do anything they don't want to do already anyway. In the Old Testament we see that Middle Easterners are generally polygamous, heavily patriarchal, and - the opposite of Christ - believe that wealth is a positive moral good and proof of divine favor. The conquest of Canaan model: this land is yours, kill everybody in it and take it and all of their things for your own - this is a pleasing mindset to Middle Eastern culture. Modern Israel is composed of Jews that came from a 2000 year exile in the West, with its culture of monogamy (which did not come from Christianity or Judaism but from the Western pagans - the Roman pagan religion was monogamous). Traditional Middle Eastern culture is polygamous, with very effaced women. Also, Middle Eastern culture has always practiced slavery, with the view that the slave is property to be used at the pleasure of the master. Thus, all of those rules in Islam against all sorts of sexual practices only ever applied between Muslims. A Muslim can rightly do anything he wants with a non-Muslim slave of either sex. That's not Christianity (and it's not Judaism either), but it is the cultural and religious practice of the Muslim world. Now, mind you, it was also the actual practice of "Christian" slaveholders in the West too, but the difference is that the Christian religion never gave Christian slaveholders license to rape their slaves. But Muslim religion and culture authorizes it - it is part of the degradation package that an unbeliever deserves, part of the punishment of the unbeliever. In a similar vein, forever marriage is a Christian belief. In the Old Testament, YHWH gives rules for men to divorce their wives, and in Islam the rules are even easier. No official act or writ is required. In Shi'ite Iran the institution of the "Temporary Marriage" has been instituted by the Ayatollahs and is perfectly in keeping with the culture and the faith. Fornication outside of marriage in Muslim culture is a very serious offense, carrying corporal punishment and even death as its penalty. But Muslims can marry for one day, and then divorce. In this way, a man and a woman in Iran can legally, legitimately, marry for a day, have sex, and then divorce. Of course the man is expected to pay a "bride price". Thus is prostitution blessed by Allah, and perfectly licit. But the Muslim will bristle and tell you, aggressively, that this is not prostitution, that it is marriage, etc. And note well: if a man has a wife and takes a second contract wife, for a day, this is not breaking a moral law: Muslim men are authorized multiple wives. Such is Middle Eastern culture. Now add to that the "world is yours to conquer in my name" commandments of Allah, and you realize how appealing the religion is to Middle Eastern Muslims. Christianity makes Westerners uncomfortable, because our cultural norms have always been at odds with our religious norms. But the Muslim religious norms fit hand in glove with the Middle Eastern culture, and indeed presume to make that culture dominant over the whole world. So yes, it is true that Islam by its nature always wants to impose itself, by force, on the whole world, and that ultimately, different groups cannot get along as long as one is composed of believing Muslims who have sufficient numbers to have power. Muslims are every bit as stubborn about their religion as Christians (and Jews), and even less willing to convert. Half of the Mediterranean world (the Middle East and North Africa) were once Christian, but it all converted to Islam. The reverse is not true. Nowhere that was predominantly Islam has converted to Christianity. Violently divergent cultures can get along and cooperate as long as each has its space, but two religions whose Gods make universalist claims over the hearts and minds of men cannot easily get along. And when one of them has the commandment from its god to militarily overwhelm the other, they cannot ever be trusted. Even in the Philippines, a culture completely removed from Middle Eastern culture, very predictably it is the Muslim Filipinos who are carrying out the terror raids, killing people, etc. It is the nature of the religion itself. Not because every word in the Koran is false - about 98% of it lines up with the Old Testament. But because in that last 2% Allah gave the world to his believers just exactly as YHWH gave Canaan to the Hebrews. We sit in the position of the Canaanites facing perpetual warfare, hatred and the promise of death from the invading Israelites. If you were a Canaanite, no peace was possible with the Israelites: they believed in their God, and their God told them to wipe you out. You had to fight the Israelites to the death or flee, because no compromise was ever going to be possible unless the Israelites went into apostasy and stopped listening to their God (which, as it happens, they did). Muslims are much more faithful to Allah than the ancient Jews were to YHWH, probably in large part because Allah demands nothing unpleasant of them, and promises, in fact, riches, glory, sex slaves, and dominance to the Muslim conqueror, and virgins in heaven to the hero who fails in the attempt. Faced with Islam, all you can ever do is fight. If you want to defeat Islam, you have to get inside of the Muslim and Middle Eastern mind, and realize that the Achilles' Heel lies with the women. Muslim men cannot and will not convert: Allah offers a man everything he wants. But Muslim WOMEN, they can be isolated from the culture and are promised a whole lot better life by the Christian God and Western society. THAT is who you bring in as refugees: the women. And you spread them out in the West, and you let the Christian social services treat them kindly and well, and make an effort to find them Christian boyfriends and husband. Muslim WOMEN will abandon Allah for Christ, or at least for Western decadence. Muslim men you don't let in. Suck the women out of their culture, and the birth rate will collapse. You'll never convert the men, but you can cause them to die out for lack of women, and to inbreed with the women remaining to them. THAT is how you defeat Islam: you take their women away from them. Is that a Western thing to do? It's not Christian. But if one goes back to our pagan roots, back to pagan, monogamous Rome, one finds the example in the Rape of the Sabines. Where are the Sabines today? Well, they are part of the Roman Italian genetic base, through the X Chromosomes. Ain't no mo' Sabine Y Chromosomal DNA. The women are the weakest link in Islam and in Middle Eastern culture, because they get a really raw deal from both. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-11-14 07:40:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 50. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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