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Title: BREAKING: At least 35 reported dead, 100 hostages taken in Paris attacks
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Published: Nov 13, 2015
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DEVELOPING - At least 35 people were killed and more than 100 hostages were being held in Paris Friday night, after at least three coordinated terror attacks rocked the French capital and prompted President Francois Hollande to order the entire nation's borders closed.

The attacks are believed to have involved at least two suicide bombers, including one which detonated near the city's Stade de France, soccer stadium where the French and German national teams were playing in a match attended by Hollande. Simultaneous attacks are a trademark of terrorist operations.

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#22. To: BorisY (#20)

Fitting considering I'm a woman. Check out the name "ebonytwix". I don't know a man who would choose that...

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-13   19:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter (#0)

Per Sky News, latest dead count is 140. Damn shame.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   19:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Stoner (#23)

Ruined my whole day.

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-13   19:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#0) (Edited)

Honor camp in Calais, Northern France ( a refugee camp for Africans ) got exploded just now. No one was injured thankfully. It's probably related to the terrorist attacks. I know a lot of Muslim/Arabs have a long, negative history with Africans (including forcing them into Islam at some point in history and kidnapping their people) Not surprised ISIS wants to harm them too.

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-13   19:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Stoner (#17)

Wonder if Oblabbula is going to lecture the French about them getting on their "high horse"?

Olabbula from this morning:

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/13/obama-isis-is-not-getting-stronger-we-have-contained-them/

Obama: ISIS Is Not Getting ‘Stronger,’ We Have ‘Contained’ Them

by Jeff Poor
13 Nov 2015

Friday on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” President Barack Obama seemingly downplayed the threat of ISIS in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that aired on Friday’s broadcast of “Good Morning America.”

Stephanopoulos asked Obama if ISIS was gaining in strength, to which Obama denied they were.

“I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama responded. “What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq, and in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave, but you don’t see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain.”

“What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures,” he admitted. “We’ve made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters and part our goal has to be to recruit more effective Sunni partners in Iraq to really go on offense rather than simply engage in defense.”

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-13   19:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: nolu chan (#26)

" Obama: ISIS Is Not Getting ‘Stronger,’ We Have ‘Contained’ Them "

He is a effing IDIOT. He is just reading a script put in front of him. He knows less about what is going on, than I do about quantum physics, which is nothing!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   20:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: ebonytwix (#24)

" Ruined my whole day. "

Sorry!

I am really glad I do not have family over there.

I pray for the French, and fear there will be more attacks, but I pray there will not be.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   20:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: ebonytwix (#22)

talking to the dnc hamas is a waste of time !

they do have a lot of fellow travelers around here !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-11-13   20:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: BorisY (#29)

And people who are Republican Hamas too.

The Shrub imported over 100,000 Muslims a year AFTER 911.

You know, 'The Religion of Peace'?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-11-13   21:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Stoner (#9)

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

Good point. Very good point.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-11-13   21:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Dead Culture Watch (#30)

yeah the ... wasp - neocon bushbots --- are all the bad guys !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-11-13   21:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Don (#1)

The Muzzies aren't getting the attention they want.

The French need to have a pogrom, just go open season on ragheads.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-11-13   21:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: nativist nationalist (#33)

When the people have had enough, it may come to that.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-11-13   21:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nativist nationalist (#33)

" The French need to have a pogrom, just go open season on ragheads. "

AND NO BAG LIMIT !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   21:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: ebonytwix (#19)

I'm in shock today. and now I'm arguing with people on another forum who are cheering this on because they believe all French people account for colonial crimes against indigenous peoples...

Terrorists slaughter at least 118 in Paris music hall, 40 others in separate att attacks

‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2015‎

digger48 to lbryce

And we have useless idiots here that think the world revolves around them because they were micro-aggressed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3359988/posts?page=13#13

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-11-13   21:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nativist nationalist (#33)

Let's not get carried away, we don't know the reason for this yet, more than 150 dead but why? It is difficult to find a motivation, but no doubt France's escalation in Syria could be a reason. We in the west cannot be allowed to have a normal life while the Arab world is in turmoil. There is only one answer to terrorism, a swift response. The Russians know the way and France should respond in kind

paraclete  posted on  2015-11-13   21:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: paraclete (#37) (Edited)

You mostly made sense in your post. However, your statement about people in the West cannot have a normal life while the Arab world is in turmoil is confusing. You probably didn't mean how I understood it. Anyway, violence must be met with violence. Otherwise, the aggressors won't stop. Basically, that is what you said.

Oh, making war on civilians is difficult to justify. I think the terrorists will regret their actions.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-11-13   22:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Don (#38)

" I think the terrorists will regret their actions. "

To quote Ellen Ripley: " Nuke em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure!" ;)

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   22:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ebonytwix (#6)

Do you see this???

Of course.

The responsible must be hunted down and killed, and there must be retaliation against the source.

But as long as there is Islam, there will be this sort of barbarism. It's never gone away since Islam first exploded out of the desert, and it never will as long as there is Islam.

98% of what the Koran says matches the Jewish Scriptures in law. But that 2% variation is where it goes murderous and pathological.

And unfortunately that 2% can't be rooted out.

It's a living, breathing example of "Bob's Non-Reciprocal Law of Sewage".

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-11-13   22:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Vicomte13 (#40)

Remember when I asked about France's economic and social pros and cons? Is it appropriate?

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-13   22:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Don (#38)

I saw where Geraldo Rivera stated that "Trump Is Right". Interesting

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   22:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Stoner (#42)

We just can't keep up without a score card.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-11-13   22:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Don (#43)

" We just can't keep up without a score card. "

Well, I nominate you to create one and to keep it up to date! LOL

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton

Stoner  posted on  2015-11-13   23:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Stoner (#23)

AP suggests 120.

rlk  posted on  2015-11-13   23:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: rlk (#45)

Drudge has link to CNN claiming 153 killed. Not sure if the dead killers are included in that count.

It likely will increase with time IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-11-13   23:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Stoner (#44)

Well, maybe a Hallmark Store?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-11-13   23:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: ebonytwix, redleghunter (#25)

Honor camp in Calais, Northern France ( a refugee camp for Africans ) got exploded just now.

http://ban.jo/News/Europe/20151113/Reported-Refugee-Camp-On-Fire-In-France-Calais/

Site with photos and video of Calais camp burning.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-13   23:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Stoner, CZ82 (#17)

I bet Merkel is probably shitting her pants, or packing up to get out of town.

We have several German friends who want to string up Merkel.

Last time that little German sewing circle got together and talked politics, there was a lot of table pounding and words used I never heard before:)

Mostly wives of US military. I can see why Germany goes Berzerker a few times a century.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:18:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Vicomte13 (#40)

Is it true Islam always want to impose itself on different groups and can't get along?

Or is it people exaggerating things?

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-14   0:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Stoner, CZ82, tomder55, SOSO, rlk, GarySpFc, Chuck_Wagon, Don, Justified (#21)

Think the French will be ready to take in more "refugees"?

Of course they will and so will Germany and others. The socialists are self destructive. They will say this is a small minority and does not represent Islam.

France has "reverse" ghettos. The no-go areas are Muslim enclaves where they police themselves. See the results?

I call them reverse ghettos because the old European ghettos were set up to keep in ethnic groups. These Muslim ghettos are set up to keep out law enforcement.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: ebonytwix (#22)

Fitting considering I'm a woman. Check out the name "ebonytwix". I don't know a man who would choose that...

Sorry but we get professional trolls come here who pretend to be women, men, homosexual or just curious.

To the point they forget who they are.

But welcome. How did you find this site?

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Stoner (#23)

Yes and 200 wounded with 80 of them seriously. The count, sadly, will rise as the sun comes up and they find more bodies.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: ebonytwix (#25)

Honor camp in Calais, Northern France ( a refugee camp for Africans ) got exploded just now. No one was injured thankfully. It's probably related to the terrorist attacks. I know a lot of Muslim/Arabs have a long, negative history with Africans (including forcing them into Islam at some point in history and kidnapping their people) Not surprised ISIS wants to harm them too.

Most of these Africans are probably Christian refugees too.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: nolu chan (#26)

Stephanopoulos asked Obama if ISIS was gaining in strength, to which Obama denied they were.

“I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama responded. “What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq, and in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave, but you don’t see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain.”

He means ignoring ISIS has had mixed results. Today the French realized they cannot ignore their no go areas.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: ebonytwix, CZ82, liberator, BorisY (#19)

and now I'm arguing with people on another forum who are cheering this on because they believe all French people account for colonial crimes against indigenous peoples...

I haven't felt such pain for a country.. in forever.

Which site? We'll send BorisY there to set them straight:)

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: paraclete (#37)

Let's not get carried away, we don't know the reason for this yet, more than 150 dead but why?

I did not see the sarcasm tag. You're kidding right?

When Jihadis kill in bunches the motivation is clear. They want non Muslims and nominal Muslims to die in droves.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: ebonytwix, *Islamic caliphate expansion* (#50)

Is it true Islam always want to impose itself on different groups and can't get along?

Or is it people exaggerating things?

While in Iraq I met some of the hardest working people who loved their families and lived peacefully.

Unfortunately they get killed by the majority of psychopaths in their region. There are not enough of the good ones. The good ones die or are threatened into compliance. Just how it is in most of the ME Muslim countries.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   0:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: redleghunter, paraclete (#57)

When Jihadis kill in bunches the motivation is clear. They want non Muslims and nominal Muslims to die in droves.

The U.S. and French have been bombing the ISIS controlled oil fields. That hurts in the pocket.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-14   1:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: redleghunter, Stoner, CZ82, tomder55, SOSO, rlk, GarySpFc, Chuck_Wagon, Don, Justified (#51)

Think the French will be ready to take in more "refugees"?

Of course they will and so will Germany and others.

I would not bet on French acceptance. Recently, Marine Le Pen and the National Front party have been leading in the French polls. The -e candidates weren't doing all that well in France before these attacks. This should give Le Pen's party a significant bounce.

Note that the muslims in France are not a mass of illegal aliens. Most are French citizens or legal residents. However, many of those have not been assimilated into French society.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/12/french-political-elites-panic-marine-le-pen-gains-ground/

French Political Elites Panic As Marine Le Pen Gains Ground

by Simon Kent
Breitbart
12 Nov 2015

A report in Liberation suggests all options are on the table for Mr. Valls as the traditional French political landscape fractures. The newspaper reports the prime minister is already hearing privately from his advisers that a new “republican front” – or merger of the left and centre is necessary to block Ms. Le Pen’s insurgent anti-Europe, anti mass immigration push.

An insider close to the prime minister is quoted: “You have to consider all hypotheses… We must do everything to prevent the National Front.”

Europe’s migrant invasion, coupled with strengthening support for Marine Le Pen’s National Front (NF) is causing panic in French political circles. The situation is perceived as so dire that Prime Minister Manuel Valls is considering alliances between the centre right, and even far left factions to attempt to see off the threat from Ms. Le Pen’s party.

As Breitbart London has reported, Ms. Le Pen has been warning of the consequences of open-ended migration from the Middle East and what it will mean not just for the future of France but all of Europe. Her opponents try and define her message as “racist” and “xenophobic” when she says “The absolute rejection of Islamic fundamentalism must be proclaimed loudly and clearly” but voters are listening.

“Without any action, this migratory influx will be like the barbarian invasion of the 4th century, and the consequences will be the same,” Le Pen told a recent rally. “We must immediately stop this madness to safeguard our social pact, freedom and identity.

“Sarkozy opened the door, and Hollande and [Prime Minister Manuel] Valls have taken them off the hinges,” continued the 47-year old politician. “The leaders offer to host migrants, without even asking their inhabitants, the same leaders who destroyed Libya, and continue to destabilise Syria.”

The FN leader’s message is simple, to the point and being heard. She is anti-EU, anti-Schengen open borders and anti-meddling bureaucrats in Brussels and Strasbourg. All of that scares the traditional political alliances which have been content to divide the spoils of French power between for more than a century.

France is home to Europe’s largest Muslim community, making up about 7.7 per cent of the population, and their numbers have been growing with children and grandchildren of those who arrived from the country’s former colonies in North Africa during the 20th century.

Ms. Le Pen can sense the feeling of distress across the nation as voters feel they have been abandoned to their fate by legacy parties allowing that influx – without consultation. They feel no affinity for the ‘multi-cultural’ France they believe is being foisted on them.

France faces its next national elections in 2017 but before then there will be next month’s regional elections. Ms. Le Pen is set to win control of France’s northernmost area, a recent opinion poll showed, with her niece possibly coming first too in the south-eastern Provence-Alpes-Cote d’Azur region.

The same poll showed the ruling Socialists who currently dominate the regional assemblies winning just three regions or being wiped out altogether.

On that basis alone, it’s little wonder Ms. Len Pen is causing such panic in the comfortable salons of France’s political elites.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/13/marine-le-pen-tops-another-french-presidency-poll/

Marine Le Pen Tops ANOTHER French Presidency Poll

by Raheem Kassam
Breitbart
13 Nov 2015

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-14   1:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: nolu chan (#59)

These terrorist cells normally do not attack based on lost economics.

Their prime reason for attacking is because they can. The opportunity is there. They are sentimental in that dates which mean something (9/11/12 Benghazi) are target dates. If the date is important they look for the path of least resistance thus attack a lightly and incompetently guarded embassy annex.

The attack tonight was more opportunity. It was rehearsed and surveillance conducted over months. The trigger was a series of events where they could maximize casualties.

"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-14   1:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: redleghunter (#61)

These terrorist cells normally do not attack based on lost economics.

Normally their lost economics are not their primary source of income.

They did not just attack an annex in Benghazi. That was the regional CIA HQ for running arms to anti-government groups in Syria. Who or what was in the CIA annex?? We have never been given a reasonable explanation of why they were there and what they were doing.

Note: there was neither an embassy nor was there a consulate in Benghazi.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-14   1:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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