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Title: Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee?
Source: Godfather Politics
URL Source: http://godfatherpolitics.com/26374/ ... to-draft-romney-for-president/
Published: Nov 13, 2015
Author: Tad Cronn
Post Date: 2015-11-13 10:53:41 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4354
Comments: 39

The Republican Party leadership must be having a lot of trouble sleeping these days.

With two political outsiders — Donald Trump and Ben Carson — leading the presidential pack by tapping into voters’ justified anger at the GOP, these are some desperate times, at least according to the Washington Post.

One of the surest signs of desperation is the simmering movement to draft Mitt Romney to make a late entry into the race. GOP strategists have gone so far as to lay out plans for a challenge at the GOP convention.  

This is the same Romney who barely wanted to run for president in the last election.

In what should have been a knock-down, drag-out fight with possibly the worst president in history, Romney seemed to sleep through most of the campaign and could barely muster any energy even to defend himself against even the most scurrilous and obvious Democrat tactics.

One of the most defining moments of that campaign occurred during the debate with President Obama, in which Romney raised the issue of the president lying for weeks after the Benghazi attack about it being caused by a YouTube video (which he did), moderator Candy Crowley flagrantly lied in front of the nation by saying Obama had called the attack terrorism in a Rose Garden speech (which he did not), and then Romney stood there speechless and half-grinning like someone had just given him strawberry pancakes instead of blueberry.

Romney is exactly the sort of candidate the GOP establishment loves: a famous name attached to a nonentity with no moral compass and no convictions of his own except what focus group polls tell him to hold.

Romney fits right in the crowd of GOP failures like John McCain, Bob Dole, Jeb Bush and Chris Christie.

The establishment is afraid of Trump and Carson because they are appealing to voters on conservative issues that the GOP has ignored for years, and with that appeal comes a hesitancy by big-money donors who don’t want principles, just politicians who will answer their phone calls.

As the GOP bigwigs feel the money spigots being closed, they’ve begun to panic. The Post says they worry that a Trump or Carson nomination will destroy the GOP and give the election to Hillary Clinton.

I don’t buy that. I think the GOP establishment wants Clinton to win, because they’ve shown over the years that despite the Republican label, they’re really just Progressives in conservative suits, and the big money they are pursuing is likewise coming from Progressives who don’t consider politics a duty or even a passion, but a financial investment.

Trump or Carson would mess with that comfy arrangement.

The guy the GOP leadership should really be afraid of in my estimation is Ted Cruz. He’s not only got the conservative chops but he also has experience at making legislation move through Congress, a useful talent for a president. For the moment, he’s trailing both Trump and Carson, plus with being a senator he’s seen as a member of “the club,” so he’s far less threatening.

Any of the three top GOP contenders has a good chance to wallop Clinton in the general election, and if by some miracle Hillary lands in jail before then, Sanders doesn’t stand a chance even with George Soros’ backing.

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#4. To: Deckard (#0)

Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee?

I will not vote for Romney, Rubio, Jeb, etc.

I'll vote for Trump or Carson or Cruz. Maybe Paul.

On the Democrat side, the last candidate I'd have voted for, with 20/20 hindsight, is Walter Mondale.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-11-13   11:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

Why do you support Trump?

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-14   14:36:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ebonytwix (#14)

Because he speaks very strongly of stopping and reversing illegal immigration, of restoring the rule of law and control to our borders.

No Democrat does. And the other Republicans that do are on the fringes and cannot win. Trump CAN win.

Also, he wants to tax hedge fund millionaires the same way the rest of us are taxed.

And he's pro-life.

That's three for three.

None of the rest of them stand for that, except for a bare handful who can't win.

Trump CAN win, and he fights like hell. He has a long and proven track record at getting things done.

And the few times he has failed - four bankruptcies of specific projects - he has been an extremely aggressive negotiator who has won the bankruptcies. So, I know how he wins - I see his towers all over Manhattan and other cities. But I also see how he loses: with a hard, fighting retreat that ends up gaining as much a victory as can be had in a bad situation.

There is no politician running for office who is as experienced, battle hardened, and who has turned around defeat as well as engineering victory the way Donald Trump has. He's charismatic, he's smart, and he's dead right on immigration, on abortion and on taxing hedge funds.

That's why I support Donald Trump.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-11-14   15:01:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

Some people say he's too mean and attacks people.

Some people say he's racist and only attacks non-whites.

My peers don't like him very much, some do, most don't.

ebonytwix  posted on  2015-11-14   16:26:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: ebonytwix (#17)

He's not campaigning for Pope.

Mean and attacks people? Hillary Clinton kills people.

Only attacks non-whites? He's taken aim directly at hedge fund financiers - the most lily-white and wealthy group in the country.

The attacks are bullshit. The people who say these things are hard-core Democrat partisans who would vote for Hitler if he were running as a Democrat and Jesus Christ were running as a Republican with Mahatma Ghandi as his running mate.

Has Taylor Swift ways: "The haters' gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate." And it's a given that Democrats are going to hate the Republicans and oppose them, no matter what.

"Mean and racist" is the usual meme.

But let's suppose for a minute that Donald Trump IS mean. You've got to be mean to deport millions of illegals. You've got to be mean to wage war and kill the dumb evil bastards who just attacked Paris and who will attack us every chance they get. Presidents order the slaughter of thousands and thousands of people. They order men and women into battle. They hold the pardon pen and could release plenty of people on death row, and tens of thousands of prisoners. But they let them rot in cells instead. Presidents are mean. Being in charge means using force to assert your will, and killing those who break the law too far. It means giving the orders to slaughter foreign enemies. Every President since World War II has directed the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of people. Without exception. The President is the Emperor of a world military empire that is maintained by brutal force.

And the final truth: some of our rivals have nuclear weapons. One, Pakistan, a supposed "ally" hid Bin Laden and has nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. If an enemy uses nuclear weapons on America, the American President will give the order that results in a devastating retaliatory nuclear strike on the cities of the enemy. Think of EXACTLY what that means. The President will give the word, and 100 million completely innocent women and children will be roasted alive by American nuclear fire - because that is the only way one can respond to the killing of one's own through nuclear fire: the complete genocide of the enemy population - utter, intentional extermination, leaving nothing left.

And if it were Russia or China, the President would give the orders that would result in the end of humanity. A retaliatory nuclear exchange that would end all human life on earth.

Yes, the President is a mean man. All Presidents are very mean men. The role of Emperor MEANS then use of unlimited force, daily, to maintain the world empire against those who hate it. And that means that on average tens and hundreds of people in the world will be killed every single day, because of the decisions the President makes.

It is not a job for a saint. It is the job for a mean man.

Is Trump SO racist that he's going to nuke Africa for the hell of it? No.

Is he SO mean that he's going to run out there and START wars? Hell no. War is expensive. He plans to use his superlative negotiating skills to stop the wars he can stop.

But as to the wars that are inevitable? He's mean. He wins. He'll use force to win. His plan on ISIS? It's brutal and short: terrorist organizations are funded by oil money. Oil comes out of fixed plants in the ground that are expensive. Trump will send airstrikes to utterly obliterate the enemy's oil making ability. He will flatten the oilfields, destroy the pipelines and leave them with no ability to sell any oil, because everything will be destroyed. And then, if American forces have to be deployed, he will seize the oilfields, put a perimeter around them, send in Exxon to rebuild them, and America will take the oil for ourselves. Outright ruthless colonial exploitation: it WAS your oil, but you waged war on us. We destroyed your oilfields, we occupied them, and now they are OURS and the oil is ours, and we will take it, and you can eat sand.

Very, very mean. And just exactly right.

If you kill Americans, expect to die. Expect your family to die. And expect all of your property to be taken, by us, and never given back. If you kill Americans, then FUCK YOU. We'll come to get you, and we will TAKE WHAT WE WANT. Mean. Aggressive. Colonial. Evil. Go cry to God about it - we're not electing a Pope, we're electing an Emperor.

To avoid all of those calamities, don't attack Americans. Pretty simple.

To be believable, you need a Trump. Obama is not believable. Net result: ISIS grows and grows in strength. The enemy is on the march everywhere, because weakness is a provocation.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-11-14   17:12:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vicomte13 (#18)

Every President since World War II has directed the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of people. Without exception.

Carter? Ford? Reagan?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-14   21:09:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

Carter? Ford? Reagan?

Yup, all of 'em.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-14   21:11:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#26)

Carter? Ford? Reagan?

Yup, all of 'em.

Ford was President first. So who are the minimum 4000 people he had killed?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-14   21:19:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)

Ford was President first. So who are the minimum 4000 people he had killed?

All modern US Presidents, starting with Harry Truman are out of control. Records of their murderous actions are on the books.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-14   21:25:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

So buckeroo can't produce. Par for the course.

All lip.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-14   21:36:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Name a modern, benevolent US President. Cat got your tongue?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-14   22:09:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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