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Title: Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee?
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Published: Nov 13, 2015
Author: Tad Cronn
Post Date: 2015-11-13 10:53:41 by Deckard
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Views: 3236
Comments: 39
The Republican Party leadership must be having a lot of trouble sleeping these days. With two political outsiders — Donald Trump and Ben Carson — leading the presidential pack by tapping into voters’ justified anger at the GOP, these are some desperate times, at least according to the Washington Post. One of the surest signs of desperation is the simmering movement to draft Mitt Romney to make a late entry into the race. GOP strategists have gone so far as to lay out plans for a challenge at the GOP convention. This is the same Romney who barely wanted to run for president in the last election. In what should have been a knock-down, drag-out fight with possibly the worst president in history, Romney seemed to sleep through most of the campaign and could barely muster any energy even to defend himself against even the most scurrilous and obvious Democrat tactics. One of the most defining moments of that campaign occurred during the debate with President Obama, in which Romney raised the issue of the president lying for weeks after the Benghazi attack about it being caused by a YouTube video (which he did), moderator Candy Crowley flagrantly lied in front of the nation by saying Obama had called the attack terrorism in a Rose Garden speech (which he did not), and then Romney stood there speechless and half-grinning like someone had just given him strawberry pancakes instead of blueberry. Romney is exactly the sort of candidate the GOP establishment loves: a famous name attached to a nonentity with no moral compass and no convictions of his own except what focus group polls tell him to hold. Romney fits right in the crowd of GOP failures like John McCain, Bob Dole, Jeb Bush and Chris Christie. The establishment is afraid of Trump and Carson because they are appealing to voters on conservative issues that the GOP has ignored for years, and with that appeal comes a hesitancy by big-money donors who don’t want principles, just politicians who will answer their phone calls. As the GOP bigwigs feel the money spigots being closed, they’ve begun to panic. The Post says they worry that a Trump or Carson nomination will destroy the GOP and give the election to Hillary Clinton. I don’t buy that. I think the GOP establishment wants Clinton to win, because they’ve shown over the years that despite the Republican label, they’re really just Progressives in conservative suits, and the big money they are pursuing is likewise coming from Progressives who don’t consider politics a duty or even a passion, but a financial investment. Trump or Carson would mess with that comfy arrangement. The guy the GOP leadership should really be afraid of in my estimation is Ted Cruz. He’s not only got the conservative chops but he also has experience at making legislation move through Congress, a useful talent for a president. For the moment, he’s trailing both Trump and Carson, plus with being a senator he’s seen as a member of “the club,” so he’s far less threatening. Any of the three top GOP contenders has a good chance to wallop Clinton in the general election, and if by some miracle Hillary lands in jail before then, Sanders doesn’t stand a chance even with George Soros’ backing.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
NO !! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton
NO.
I'll vote third party or do a write in rather than vote for Mitt Romney or someone like him. In which case I'll be listed as another voter that has deserted to party. Romney is in another world. He has no conception of the problems facing the country. His solution is to look and talk pretty enough to become president. There are others just like him.
I will not vote for Romney, Rubio, Jeb, etc. I'll vote for Trump or Carson or Cruz. Maybe Paul. On the Democrat side, the last candidate I'd have voted for, with 20/20 hindsight, is Walter Mondale.
Don't be silly.
There aren't enough RINOs to make him a primary candidate, much less the Republican nominee. If he DID become the nominee, it wouldn't do any good. The people would be in armed revolt.
Well, I doubt the armed revolt. But if they rig it up to make Mit the nominee, the base will either vote 3rd party, or stay home. Either way, the GOP will lose. Maybe that is what they want? Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton
I wonder. It seems to me they're more comfortable when they're in the minority, playing spoiler. Give them majority control and they don't know what to do.
Because insanity is doing the same thing every four years, and expecting different results. Ask your doctor today… In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much The Republican and Democrat presidential candidates rehearse for their 2016 debate. They've got binders! Wishful thinking. "We The People" are too well fed, fat, dumb and happy. "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
NO! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I didn't vote for him last time sure not going to vote for him now.
There is nothing on earth more dangerous than a terminal Vietnam Veteran.
Why do you support Trump?
A vote for my dead dawg scruffy is a vote for freedom, liberty, rights and dignity! A vote for Romney is a black hole in boris' temple region of fading coherent thought!
Because he speaks very strongly of stopping and reversing illegal immigration, of restoring the rule of law and control to our borders. No Democrat does. And the other Republicans that do are on the fringes and cannot win. Trump CAN win. Also, he wants to tax hedge fund millionaires the same way the rest of us are taxed. And he's pro-life. That's three for three. None of the rest of them stand for that, except for a bare handful who can't win. Trump CAN win, and he fights like hell. He has a long and proven track record at getting things done. And the few times he has failed - four bankruptcies of specific projects - he has been an extremely aggressive negotiator who has won the bankruptcies. So, I know how he wins - I see his towers all over Manhattan and other cities. But I also see how he loses: with a hard, fighting retreat that ends up gaining as much a victory as can be had in a bad situation. There is no politician running for office who is as experienced, battle hardened, and who has turned around defeat as well as engineering victory the way Donald Trump has. He's charismatic, he's smart, and he's dead right on immigration, on abortion and on taxing hedge funds. That's why I support Donald Trump.
Some people say he's too mean and attacks people. Some people say he's racist and only attacks non-whites. My peers don't like him very much, some do, most don't.
He's not campaigning for Pope. Mean and attacks people? Hillary Clinton kills people. Only attacks non-whites? He's taken aim directly at hedge fund financiers - the most lily-white and wealthy group in the country. The attacks are bullshit. The people who say these things are hard-core Democrat partisans who would vote for Hitler if he were running as a Democrat and Jesus Christ were running as a Republican with Mahatma Ghandi as his running mate. Has Taylor Swift ways: "The haters' gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate." And it's a given that Democrats are going to hate the Republicans and oppose them, no matter what. "Mean and racist" is the usual meme. But let's suppose for a minute that Donald Trump IS mean. You've got to be mean to deport millions of illegals. You've got to be mean to wage war and kill the dumb evil bastards who just attacked Paris and who will attack us every chance they get. Presidents order the slaughter of thousands and thousands of people. They order men and women into battle. They hold the pardon pen and could release plenty of people on death row, and tens of thousands of prisoners. But they let them rot in cells instead. Presidents are mean. Being in charge means using force to assert your will, and killing those who break the law too far. It means giving the orders to slaughter foreign enemies. Every President since World War II has directed the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of people. Without exception. The President is the Emperor of a world military empire that is maintained by brutal force. And the final truth: some of our rivals have nuclear weapons. One, Pakistan, a supposed "ally" hid Bin Laden and has nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. If an enemy uses nuclear weapons on America, the American President will give the order that results in a devastating retaliatory nuclear strike on the cities of the enemy. Think of EXACTLY what that means. The President will give the word, and 100 million completely innocent women and children will be roasted alive by American nuclear fire - because that is the only way one can respond to the killing of one's own through nuclear fire: the complete genocide of the enemy population - utter, intentional extermination, leaving nothing left. And if it were Russia or China, the President would give the orders that would result in the end of humanity. A retaliatory nuclear exchange that would end all human life on earth. Yes, the President is a mean man. All Presidents are very mean men. The role of Emperor MEANS then use of unlimited force, daily, to maintain the world empire against those who hate it. And that means that on average tens and hundreds of people in the world will be killed every single day, because of the decisions the President makes. It is not a job for a saint. It is the job for a mean man. Is Trump SO racist that he's going to nuke Africa for the hell of it? No. Is he SO mean that he's going to run out there and START wars? Hell no. War is expensive. He plans to use his superlative negotiating skills to stop the wars he can stop. But as to the wars that are inevitable? He's mean. He wins. He'll use force to win. His plan on ISIS? It's brutal and short: terrorist organizations are funded by oil money. Oil comes out of fixed plants in the ground that are expensive. Trump will send airstrikes to utterly obliterate the enemy's oil making ability. He will flatten the oilfields, destroy the pipelines and leave them with no ability to sell any oil, because everything will be destroyed. And then, if American forces have to be deployed, he will seize the oilfields, put a perimeter around them, send in Exxon to rebuild them, and America will take the oil for ourselves. Outright ruthless colonial exploitation: it WAS your oil, but you waged war on us. We destroyed your oilfields, we occupied them, and now they are OURS and the oil is ours, and we will take it, and you can eat sand. Very, very mean. And just exactly right. If you kill Americans, expect to die. Expect your family to die. And expect all of your property to be taken, by us, and never given back. If you kill Americans, then FUCK YOU. We'll come to get you, and we will TAKE WHAT WE WANT. Mean. Aggressive. Colonial. Evil. Go cry to God about it - we're not electing a Pope, we're electing an Emperor. To avoid all of those calamities, don't attack Americans. Pretty simple. To be believable, you need a Trump. Obama is not believable. Net result: ISIS grows and grows in strength. The enemy is on the march everywhere, because weakness is a provocation.
what about bernie sanders he says theres discrimination against blacks and women and speaks on social justice, ect. so he fits with the youth (though they dont vote)
Very good post. I agree with it!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton
Yes, Bernie Sanders has some fine things to say. But Democrats are all going to vote for Hillary, and Republicans are going to vote for the Republican. And most Independents will pick Donald Trump, because of what happened in Paris, and Trump's stance on illegal immigration. I haven't paid much attention to Sanders or any of the other Seven Dwarves, because it's obvious to me that it will be Hillary versus either Trump or Rubio. Which means that it will either be Trump or Hillary, because Rubio could win the GOP nomination, but he can't win the Presidency.
Trump over hillary. doesn't hillary have more support? also people want to see a female president "just because"
First, you must not believe the media this far out from an election. The media are overwhelmingly Democrat, and they strongly favor the Democrats. The reporting will be relentlessly dishonest. Everybody in the party establishments on both sides is afraid of Trump BECAUSE they know from their internal polling how popular he really is. The Republicans are desperate to avoid him. The Democratic leaders hope they don't have to face him. If Hillary faces him, it will be in the context of a renewed war on terror - and that is her Achilles' Heel. A US Ambassador and his guard contingent were slaughtered in an embassy annex in Benghazi, and Hillary came out and said it was due to some film. It was a lie, and everybody KNOWS its a lie. Hillary lying is nothing new - politicians lie like they breathe, and we all know that. But Hillary's problem is that the particular context of her failiure AND the lies (and the e-mails for that matter), is incompetence at dealing with terrorism. Truth is, Democrats don't want to spend to the money on the military, they don't want to empower the right wing intelligence establishment, and they don't want to be in the game of killing people, which you have to be if you're going to fight terrorists. So, her very weakest point is Trump's very strongest point. She's an open-borders, weak war on terror type. Trump is the borderbot nec-plus-ultra, and he's aggressive about terror. Hillary's weak suit versus Trump's strong suit. The Establishment Republicans particular fear him because THEY represent capitalist interests who have paid them off, and those interests want open borders and cheap exploitable labor. What Trump proposes works directly against their financial interests, so they want anybody but him. But the PEOPLE, writ large, like Trump. Sure, committed Democrats would vote for Satan, Hitler, Stalin or Saddam Hussein if they were running as Democrats, but only about 30% of the electorate are Democrats. Republicans are similar, the really committed ones, but they're only maybe 25%, tops. So, that 25% will vote for Trump if he's the nominee, and the 30% will vote for Hillary. That leaves 45% of the electorate up for grabs. They will skew heavily for Trump, because of the Border issue, because they like him - he is likable and Hillary is hateful. Sure, among that 45% there are women who will vote Hillary just because she's a woman. But most of the ones that would do that are already counted in the Democrats. If Trump is the nominee, he'll win. What is happening in Paris makes it more likely than ever that Trump will be the next President. It also dramatically increased the chances that Marine Le Pen will be the next President of France.
Just as a technical note, there was no embassy or consulate in Benghazi. There was a facility called the annex, but it was a CIA facility.
Carter? Ford? Reagan?
Yup, all of 'em.
I agree with that. Unless everyone forgets. We forget easily.
Yup, all of 'em. Ford was President first. So who are the minimum 4000 people he had killed?
All modern US Presidents, starting with Harry Truman are out of control. Records of their murderous actions are on the books.
So buckeroo can't produce. Par for the course. All lip.
What do you think of that? I'd think I might not want to live there if that happens. It might make it harder for me.
The most-articulate spokesmen for that position are the Islamic State’s officials and supporters themselves. They refer derisively to “moderns.” In conversation, they insist that they will not—cannot—waver from governing precepts that were embedded in Islam by the Prophet Muhammad and his earliest followers. They often speak in codes and allusions that sound odd or old-fashioned to non-Muslims, but refer to specific traditions and texts of early Islam. From: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really- wants/384980/ I'm depressed now.
Ok Pope said something about it being apart of an upcoming WWIII and a senior Iranian official said months ago a WWIII will be sparked by terrorists
Name a modern, benevolent US President. Cat got your tongue?
What is it about her that you don't like? I did as you suggested in one of your posts and looked up your posting name. The link took me to a porn site. A black woman was helping a black guy masturbate. Psalm 37
You made me turn red. Really, my name was taken from the stone ebony (used to describe women's skin or hair) and twix (like the candy) so it can be semi feminine and also, it's different from most of the usernames I pick online. I Never looked up my name. I think Marie le Pen can provoke people too much just to get support and she says some outrageous things. Also, many of the people who support her are extreme nationalists and zealous about their country to the point where it feels overwhelming. That and I don't like her politics much. But aside from that, I don't know her well.
The thing about nationalism is it is standing in the way of the plans of the Marxists. I recommend a book called The Third Way, which was written by a couple who are Socialists. I just tried to find the book on Amazon and didn't find it. Ok, short course. The idea is to divide the world into ten trading zones. The EU is an example of a trading zone. Another trading zone is the Americas. Borders have to be erased. You can see that effort in action by erasing the borders of the U.S. Nationalism helps maintain borders, so that sort of thing is not a good thing for our masters. The coming fascist world government will be built on economic and Marxist principles. It is a blend of Capitalism and Marxism. Psalm 37
I mean, I don't mind nationalism in itself. but when I go on sites who claim to be nationalists (all of them, no matter the race or country) they like to hate on people who are different physically from them (not even ideologically, just based on race alone) and make rude assumptions about them. also many of them act too bloodthirsty and fueled on hate and emotion. Humans are so violent and corrupted they will make just about any philosophy or idea messed up. I don't mind someone being proud for their country, but that doesn't mean trolling others and saying rude things and doing hypocritical/vicious things. but literally every group is like this so..whatever.
Humans are that way. I'm sure you have heard about Birds of a feather flock with others of the same feathers. Surely, you don't think there are peoples who don't discriminate in one area or another.
Psalm 37
" Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee? "
#2. To: Stoner, Deckard (#1)
" Will You Vote for Romney ?"
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee?
#5. To: Deckard (#0)
#6. To: Deckard (#0)
"Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee?"
#7. To: misterwhite (#6)
" If he DID become the nominee, it wouldn't do any good. The people would be in armed revolt. "
#8. To: Stoner (#7)
"Either way, the GOP will lose. Maybe that is what they want?"
#9. To: Stoner, rlk, Chuck_Wagon, misterwhite, hondo68, Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#1)
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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#10. To: Deckard, Dick Cheney vs Joe Biden (#0)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#11. To: misterwhite (#6)
The people would be in armed revolt.
#12. To: Deckard (#0)
Will You Vote for Romney if RINOs Make Him the Nominee?
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#14. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
#15. To: Deckard, BorisY (#0)
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#17. To: Vicomte13 (#16)
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#19. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
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#23. To: ebonytwix (#22)
doesn't hillary have more support? also people want to see a female president "just because"
#24. To: Vicomte13, ebonytwix (#23)
embassy annex in Benghazi
#25. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
Every President since World War II has directed the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of people. Without exception.
#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)
Carter? Ford? Reagan?
#27. To: Vicomte13 (#23)
If Trump is the nominee, he'll win. What is happening in Paris makes it more likely than ever that Trump will be the next President.
#28. To: buckeroo (#26)
Carter? Ford? Reagan?
#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)
Ford was President first. So who are the minimum 4000 people he had killed?
#30. To: buckeroo (#29)
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#23)
It also dramatically increased the chances that Marine Le Pen will be the next President of France.
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There is a temptation to rehearse this observation—that jihadists are modern secular people, with modern political concerns, wearing medieval religious disguise—and make it fit the Islamic State. In fact, much of what the group does looks nonsensical except in light of a sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a seventh-century legal environment, and ultimately to bringing about the apocalypse.
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