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On the stage, Rubio and Cruz continued to shine. Cruz, again, did not get the most speaking time, but he made every word count. When Rand Paul seemed to get the better of Marco Rubio in an exchange on spending for defense, Cruz came back and devastated both. Cruz took on the ridiculous sugar subsidy, which Rubio supports, and used it as a way to beat Paul on isolationism. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Using this article as a headline to discuss the debate. Subscribe to *2016 The Likely Suspects* Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 41. #6. To: redleghunter (#0) Kasich got clobbered by Cruz. Kasich drew one of the very few boos. Stick a fork in him. KASICH: Neil, that's the difference of being an executive. And let me just explain: when a bank is ready to go under and depositors are getting ready to lose their life savings, you just don't say we believe in philosophical concerns. You know what an executive has to decide? When there's a water crisis, how do we get water to the city? When there's a school shooting, how do you get there and help heal a community? When there are financial crisis, or a crisis with ebola, you got to go there and try to fix it. Philosophy doesn't work when you run something. And I gotta tell you, on-the-job training for president of the United States doesn't work. We've done it for 8 years, -- and almost 8 years now. It does not work. (APPLAUSE) We need an executive who's been tried, has been tested, and judge the decisions that that executive makes. I don't like what the Fed is doing, but I'll tell you what worries me more than anything else: turning the Fed over to the Congress of the United States... BARTIROMO: Thank you, governor. CRUZ: So, Governor Kasich... KASICH: ...so they can print the money. That would be a very bad approach. BARTIROMO: Senator Rubio. CRUZ: ...why would you then bail out rich Wall Street banks, but not Main street, not Mom and Pop, not Sabina Loving? KASICH: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. CRUZ: But you just said an executive... KASICH: No. No, I didn't say that. CRUZ: ...knows to step in and bail out a bank. KASICH: They were -- they were talking about what you would do with depositors. Would you let these banks shut down? My argument is, going forward, the banks have to reserve the capital, so that the -- so that the people who own the capital start pressuring the banks to not take these risky approaches, Ted. But at the end of the day... CRUZ: So you said you'd abandon philosophy and abandon principle... KASICH: ... I'm gonna tell you this. Let me tell you this. If during -- if during... CRUZ: ...but what would you do if the bank was failing? KASICH: ...because if during -- well, I'll tell you what (ph). CRUZ: What would you do if the bank was failing? KASICH: I would not let the people who put their money in there all go down. CRUZ: So you -- you would bail them out. KASICH: As an executive -- no. As an executive, I would figure out how to separate those people who can afford it versus those people, or the hard-working folks who put those money in those institutions... (BOOING) ... let me -- no, no. Let me say another thing. Here's what I mean by that. Here's what I mean by that. (UNKNOWN): Oh, great. KASICH: When you are faced -- when you are faced, in the last financial crisis, with banks going under -- with banks going under, and people, people who put their -- their life savings in there, you got to deal with it. You can't turn a blind eye to it. Now, going forward, that's one thing. If you had another financial crisis, perhaps there would be an effort to make sure that we do (ph). BARTIROMO: Thank you, Governor Kasich. nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-11   2:07:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: nolu chan (#6) Yes I think he is done. But how the RNC and other candidates handle his exit is important. They need Ohio. redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-11   12:36:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: redleghunter (#14) But how the RNC and other candidates handle his exit is important. They need Ohio. Rubio -Kasich ticket covers 2 key states . tomder55  posted on  2015-11-11   13:22:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: tomder55 (#20) That ticket would give Hitlery pause. How to fit Fiorina in as an attack dog against Hitlery is another thing to consider. redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-11   16:35:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: redleghunter (#29) How to fit Fiorina in as an attack dog against Hitlery is another thing to consider. I think she would be a natural fit,and totally unafraid to go after Mrs Bubba. For one thing,Mrs Bubba couldn't play the "Wahhhhh! You're picking on me because I'm just a gurl!" card. Fionia is the only one that CAN go for the throat without getting hammered as being a sexist. And I truly don't think she would find it to be a burden to bear. sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-11   17:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#30) [Fiorina] is the only one that CAN go for the throat without getting hammered as being a sexist. I don't think that is true. Carson took a whack at Hillary last night. [CARSON] But, you know, when I look at somebody like Hillary Clinton, who sits there and tells her daughter and a government official that no, this was a terrorist attack, and then tells everybody else that it was a video. Where I came from, they call that a lie. And... (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) Don't underestimate the polite, quiet assassin. There was a media hit on Carson over the past few days and they are the ones left bleeding and looking stupid. Nobody attempted to attack him last night. nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-11   18:24:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: nolu chan, sneakypete, redleghunter (#32) Great point about Carson . He took all their arrows and survived. But I am concerned that for all his brilliance ;he has not done the work necessary to discuss the issues in detail . He appeared to me to be winging it . Here was his response to the question about the bail out of the banks : Well, I think we should have policies that don’t allow them to just enlarge themselves at the expense of smaller entities. And certainly some of the policies, some of the monetary and Fed policies that we’re using makes it very easy for them, makes it very easy for the big corporations, quite frankly, at these very low interest rates to buy back their stock and to drive the price of that up artificially. Those are the kinds of things that led to the problem in the first place. And I think this all really gets back to this whole regulation issue which is creating a very abnormal situation. This country was — declared its independence in 1776. In less than 100 years, it was the number-one economic power in the world. And the reason was because we had an atmosphere that encouraged entrepreneurial risk- taking and capital investment. Those are the fuels that drive it. And what we’ve done now is let the creep of regulation turn into a stampede of regulations, which is involved in every aspect of our lives. If we can get that out, it makes a big difference. And even for the average person, every single regulation costs money. And it’s shifted to the individual. So — and it hurts the poor and the middle class much more than it does the rich. They go into the store and they buy a bar of soap, it costs 10 cents more, they notice it. And the middle class, when they come to the cash register, have a whole cart full of things that cost 5, 10 or 15 cents more, they notice it. It is hurting the poor. tomder55  posted on  2015-11-11   19:00:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: tomder55, sneakypete, redleghunter (#33) Great point about Carson . He took all their arrows and survived. But I am concerned that for all his brilliance ;he has not done the work necessary to discuss the issues in detail. He appeared to me to be winging it. I have previously expressed my concern that he does not have experience in government or as an executive. His intellect appears evident. I'm still not sure exactly sure how he is doing it, but he is connecting. I just don't know how his experience qualifies him for the position of Chief Executive. Here was his response to the question about the bail out of the banks: Well, I think we should have policies that don’t allow them to just enlarge themselves at the expense of smaller entities. And certainly some of the policies, some of the monetary and Fed policies that we’re using makes it very easy for them, makes it very easy for the big corporations, quite frankly, at these very low interest rates to buy back their stock and to drive the price of that up artificially. Those are the kinds of things that led to the problem in the first place. That response was actually in answer to whether J.P. Morgan and other big banks should be broken up. BAKER: Dr. Carson, if I may, just on that point, despite measures taken, as the governor says, since the crisis to make the financial system safer, the major banks in the U.S., many of them are actually bigger than ever. Asset held by JPMorgan Chase, for example, the very largest bank, have increased by nearly 40 percent to over $2.6 trillion. Do you think JPMorgan and the other big banks should be broken up? CARSON: Well, I think we should have policies that don't allow them to just enlarge themselves at the expense of smaller entities. And certainly some of the policies, some of the monetary and Fed policies that we're using makes it very easy for them, makes it very easy for the big corporations, quite frankly, at these very low interest rates to buy back their stock and to drive the price of that up artificially. Those are the kinds of things that led to the problem in the first place. nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-12   2:04:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 41. #44. To: nolu chan (#41) I just don't know how his experience qualifies him for the position of Chief Executive. You could say that about quite a few Presidents, the latest one is but the prime example... CZ82  posted on  2015-11-12 07:08:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: nolu chan (#41) His intellect appears evident. I'm still not sure exactly sure how he is doing it, but he is connecting. I think a lot of people are like me,and just think it is refreshing to see a candidate that isn't an outright bleeping idiot or sock pupppet with someones hand up his ass pulling the strings. That alone is sufficient reason for most people to consider Carson. I just don't know how his experience qualifies him for the position of Chief Executive. Frankly,it doesn't. The most important qualification for president is the experience and ability to convince other people to go along with his programs based on both his personality (likeable=political virtue) and his experience getting people to change their minds through either persuasion or using pressure. None of which has anything to do with intellect and everything to do with instincts. Still,it would be refreshing to not have one more dummy,wouldn't it? sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-12 16:24:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 41. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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