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Title: The big winners (and one big loser) at Milwaukee GOP debate
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015 ... oser-at-fourth-gop-debate.html
Published: Nov 11, 2015
Author: Fox news
Post Date: 2015-11-11 00:43:15 by redleghunter
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First, Fox Business is a big winner. This debate is what all the other debates should have been. The questions were substantive, the candidates had time, and the moderators did not try to be the stars of the show. It was really well done and informative.

On the stage, Rubio and Cruz continued to shine. Cruz, again, did not get the most speaking time, but he made every word count. When Rand Paul seemed to get the better of Marco Rubio in an exchange on spending for defense, Cruz came back and devastated both. Cruz took on the ridiculous sugar subsidy, which Rubio supports, and used it as a way to beat Paul on isolationism.

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#6. To: redleghunter (#0)

Kasich got clobbered by Cruz. Kasich drew one of the very few boos. Stick a fork in him.

KASICH: Neil, that's the difference of being an executive. And let me just explain: when a bank is ready to go under and depositors are getting ready to lose their life savings, you just don't say we believe in philosophical concerns. You know what an executive has to decide? When there's a water crisis, how do we get water to the city? When there's a school shooting, how do you get there and help heal a community? When there are financial crisis, or a crisis with ebola, you got to go there and try to fix it. Philosophy doesn't work when you run something. And I gotta tell you, on-the-job training for president of the United States doesn't work. We've done it for 8 years, -- and almost 8 years now. It does not work.

(APPLAUSE)

We need an executive who's been tried, has been tested, and judge the decisions that that executive makes. I don't like what the Fed is doing, but I'll tell you what worries me more than anything else: turning the Fed over to the Congress of the United States...

BARTIROMO: Thank you, governor.

CRUZ: So, Governor Kasich...

KASICH: ...so they can print the money. That would be a very bad approach.

BARTIROMO: Senator Rubio.

CRUZ: ...why would you then bail out rich Wall Street banks, but not Main street, not Mom and Pop, not Sabina Loving?

KASICH: I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

CRUZ: But you just said an executive...

KASICH: No. No, I didn't say that.

CRUZ: ...knows to step in and bail out a bank.

KASICH: They were -- they were talking about what you would do with depositors. Would you let these banks shut down? My argument is, going forward, the banks have to reserve the capital, so that the -- so that the people who own the capital start pressuring the banks to not take these risky approaches, Ted. But at the end of the day...

CRUZ: So you said you'd abandon philosophy and abandon principle...

KASICH: ... I'm gonna tell you this. Let me tell you this. If during -- if during...

CRUZ: ...but what would you do if the bank was failing?

KASICH: ...because if during -- well, I'll tell you what (ph).

CRUZ: What would you do if the bank was failing?

KASICH: I would not let the people who put their money in there all go down.

CRUZ: So you -- you would bail them out.

KASICH: As an executive -- no. As an executive, I would figure out how to separate those people who can afford it versus those people, or the hard-working folks who put those money in those institutions...

(BOOING)

... let me -- no, no. Let me say another thing. Here's what I mean by that. Here's what I mean by that.

(UNKNOWN): Oh, great.

KASICH: When you are faced -- when you are faced, in the last financial crisis, with banks going under -- with banks going under, and people, people who put their -- their life savings in there, you got to deal with it. You can't turn a blind eye to it. Now, going forward, that's one thing. If you had another financial crisis, perhaps there would be an effort to make sure that we do (ph).

BARTIROMO: Thank you, Governor Kasich.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-11   2:07:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#6)

Yes I think he is done. But how the RNC and other candidates handle his exit is important. They need Ohio.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-11   12:36:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#14)

But how the RNC and other candidates handle his exit is important. They need Ohio.

Rubio -Kasich ticket covers 2 key states .

tomder55  posted on  2015-11-11   13:22:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#20)

Rubio -Kasich ticket covers 2 key states .

Rubio-Kasich covers illegal immigrant amnesty supporters in all 50 states. The GOPe has not yet shown how the amnesty monkeys will overcome the issue in GOP primaries.

The most recent Florida poll (3 Nov) indicates Trump 37, Carson 17, Rubio 16, Bush 7, Cruz 10, Fiorina 3, Kasich 3, Huckabee 1, Christie, Paul, Jindal, Santorum, Graham, Pataki.

With Trump/Carson/Cruz holding 64%, Rubio is on the short end of the stick.

The most recent (not very recent) Ohio poll (9/25-10/5) indicted Trump 23, Carson 18, Kasich 13, Cruz 11, Fiorina 10, Rubio 7, Bush 4, Paul 3, Huckabee 2, Christie 1, Santorum 0, Graham 0.

Trump/Carson/Cruz had over half the votes.

The issue is illegal immigration and Rubio, Kasich, Bush and the GOPe are politically on the wrong side of it. Polls have repeated indicated a majority supporting anti-illegal immigration side. As Ted Cruz pointed out in devastating fashion last night, it is an economic issue.

"[T]he politics of it will be very, very different if a bunch of lawyers or bankers were crossing the Rio Grande. (AUDIENCE REACTION) Or if a bunch of people with journalism degrees were coming over and driving down the wages in the press. (APPLAUSE) (CHEERING) Then, we would see stories about the economic calamity that is befalling our nation."

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#27. To: nolu chan (#26)

" As Ted Cruz pointed out in devastating fashion last night, it is an economic issue.

"[T]he politics of it will be very, very different if a bunch of lawyers or bankers were crossing the Rio Grande. (AUDIENCE REACTION) Or if a bunch of people with journalism degrees were coming over and driving down the wages in the press. (APPLAUSE) (CHEERING) Then, we would see stories about the economic calamity that is befalling our nation." "

Ted Cruz was dead on!!

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