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What Happens Inside Gaza’s Secret Tunnels? | Unpacked Hamas Torture Bodycam Footage: "These Monsters Filmed it All" | IDF Warfighter Doron Keidar, Ep. 225 EXPOSED: The Dark Truth About the Hostages in Gaza New Task Force Ready To Expose Dark Secrets Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: The big winners (and one big loser) at Milwaukee GOP debate Source: Fox News URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015 ... oser-at-fourth-gop-debate.html Published: Nov 11, 2015 Author: Fox news Post Date: 2015-11-11 00:43:15 by redleghunter Ping List: *2016 The Likely Suspects*     Subscribe to *2016 The Likely Suspects* Keywords: None Views: 5292 Comments: 48 First, Fox Business is a big winner. This debate is what all the other debates should have been. The questions were substantive, the candidates had time, and the moderators did not try to be the stars of the show. It was really well done and informative. On the stage, Rubio and Cruz continued to shine. Cruz, again, did not get the most speaking time, but he made every word count. When Rand Paul seemed to get the better of Marco Rubio in an exchange on spending for defense, Cruz came back and devastated both. Cruz took on the ridiculous sugar subsidy, which Rubio supports, and used it as a way to beat Paul on isolationism. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Using this article as a headline to discuss the debate. Subscribe to *2016 The Likely Suspects* Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 12. #1. To: All, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#0) Frankly I think Rand Paul did well. Cruz and Rubio also. The rest did not help their case or made it worse. Trump and Fiorina fumbling the "I met Putin" deal was embarrassing. Trump and Putin were in different locations when giving their 60 minutes interviews. Fiorina was actually in a green room with Putin. Too funny that they thought no one would check it out. redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-11   0:47:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: redleghunter (#1) Frankly I think Rand Paul did well. His delivery should have been more confident. He should have been drilled more on how to respond to these attacks and slights that he and his campaign had to know would come, given how his father was treated in the 2008 and 2012 races. However, they savaged Ron Paul but do dare not go quite so far with Rand Paul. Rand did a decent job on his positions and responses, along the lines of a Bakeresque realist perspective on foreign policy. You may recall Rand Paul has spoken admiringly of GHW Bush's foreign policy and restraint, defeating and expelling Saddam from Kuwait but refraining from destabilizing the entire region, as his son, Dumbya, proceeded to do a decade later. Rand would probably benefit if they did attack him more strongly. So they are perhaps being a little careful not to throw any gasoline on the fire. The last thing the GOPe would want is to get the old Ron Paul network totally fired up to back Rand Paul to the same extent as they did with his father. Part of Rand's problem is that he tries to straddle the fence between neocon so-cons and libertarians. And, as often happens, when you're parked on the fence, you take fire from both sides. You'll also notice one interesting thing: nearly all the GOP field is now committed to auditing the Fed and unwinding the expansive powers granted to it by Dodd-Frank. Several candidates have openly called it corrupt, saying the Fed is manipulating the economy to help Obomba. So these other candidates are actually taking a little wind out of Rand Paul's sails on the issue of the Fed, something that did help Ron Paul's support in the 2008 and 2012 cycles. The GOP may have rejected Ron Paul but they did absorb his Audit The Fed philosophy, an example of how political parties adopt messaging that initially draws attention in major election campaigns and you'll see an issue that started with one lone pol championing it in a prominent race and - whether the issue ever gets that pol elected - the party may go on to adopt that issue as their own. I'm not sure Rand performed well enough to stay on the primetime debate stage in the next debate. Him and Kasich already are the low two guys on the roster so they might get sent to the undercard debate next time. Getting demoted to the undercard debate really does undermine any confidence that the candidate has a real shot at the nomination. Fiorina surged up and has held onto enough support to be around 6th place in most polls. But she is likely to be the only candidate who has benefited from having an undercard/primetime debate setup because of a large candidate field. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-11   7:22:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 12. #17. To: TooConservative (#12) Paul was more engaging IMO. It also seems he has a good following in Milwaukee. He got some "cheering" support:) I think he gets enough of a bump to keep him at the adult table. Lady Lindsey, Santorum and Huck should pack it in. Bush represents Lindsey, Cruz represents Santorum and Huck for the social conservatives. Christie is an odd bird but I see the RNC establishment trying to keep him in the debates long enough to bring down Trump. It takes a big mouth bully to take down a big mouth bully. redleghunter  posted on  2015-11-11 12:55:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: TooConservative (#12) Getting demoted to the undercard debate really does undermine any confidence that the candidate has a real shot at the nomination Christie was the best performer on the undercard . Jindal was a disappointment . tomder55  posted on  2015-11-11 13:05:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 12. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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