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Title: Two Kids Spotted Playing on a Beach, Cops Arrest Their Parents for Negligence
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Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/04/ ... potted-playing-on-a-beach-cops
Published: Nov 4, 2015
Author: Lenore Skenazy
Post Date: 2015-11-05 14:04:42 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4169
Comments: 42
Parents who let their boys, ages 7 and 9, play on their own for an hour at a family beach will be arraigned later this month on charges of reckless endangerment of a child. Charles Smith and Lindsay Pembleton of Niagara Falls were vacationing with their kids on Cape Cod. The boys wanted to stay at the beach for a little longer rather than walk back to the nearby campground (which is, according to one commenter, accessible via a car-free path). The parents said okay, but told them they couldn't go in the water, according to The Cape Cod Times. By the time a lifeguard spot the children, they were—gasp—wet from the rain. What's more, they were "standing around a food truck with no adults in charge." Thankfully, the police were called before any of that wetness and unsupervised food trucking could escalate into something worse—something potentially lethal (potentially): “Although Head of the Meadow is a family beach with lifeguards, the Truro police have been called there for numerous calls related to dog bites, shark sightings, lewd conduct and people taking pictures of children,” [Officer] DeAngelo wrote in her report. Those couldn't possibly be parents taking pictures of their own children, could they? Never mind. Always throw in sharks. And dogs. And predators. Wait... did the cop forget predators? "Through my training and experience as a sexual assault investigator young boys at the ages of 7 and 9 are prime candidates for sexual predators." Phew! "This being a tourist community with a small year-round population, most people who frequent the beach are transients and unknown.” In other words: Most people at the beach are on vacation. Even though over 90 percent of sex crimes against kids are committed by people they know, not random beach inhabitants, the cop decided to file reports of suspected abuse or neglect in both Massachusetts and New York. And, for good measure, she also "applied for criminal complaints against them in Orleans District Court." Apparently it is a crime to let your kids do anything by themselves. After all, they could end up standing around a food truck! Or wet. Can't have that.
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#2. To: Deckard (#0)
Ironic that this article was published in Reason magazine. An article which totally lacks any sort of reasonableness. It belongs in a magazine called Naiveté. Hey. Nothing happened to these kids, meaning nothing CAN happen to kids left alone on a beach. Right? Sound reasonable?
I feel sorry for your kids.
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Apparently we have some leftists here (misterwhite) who believe that that State owns your kids. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much http://www.milforddailynews.com/x866119060/Parents-sue-Franklin-for-Medway-boys- death
Kinda tough for two kids to drown (in the original article) when they are standing by a food truck in the rain. I figured your opinion on this would mimic that of the other statist tool who posted. You two have a lot in common with this leftist apparatchik. MSNBC "Collectivist" Host Melissa Harris-Perry » Your Children Belong To The State In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Sounds like the parents should file a lawsuit just to see how far the authorities there want to pursue this nonsense... And if the parents win it will be poetic justice cause the Leftard taxpayers there will be the ones stuck with paying for it...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
The 7- and 9-year-old were told not to go in the water, so this couldn't happen to them.
For enforcing the law?
How many really dumb laws can you think of??? And how many really dumb people did it take to dream up those dumb laws??? The world would be a much better place if those dumb people didn't have a say in how the rest of us live our lives... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Stop suing them when YOU f**k up. Then they'll leave you alone. Until then, they have every right to try to minimize their losses by imposing rules and regulations on your ass.
Who says the parents phucked up anyway??? (Not a sane person)!!! A bunch of really stupid people who don't know how to live their own lives but have the power to tell everybody else how to live theirs??? Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Oh. Because nothing happened? They left a 7-year-old and a 9-year-old on the beach by themselves while they went back to the campground. That's irresponsible and, as it turns out, against the law. You don't like the law. You think it's silly. Fine. Have the parents sign a document saying they won't sue or use any government services if something happens to their kids and they can do whatever they want.
http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20151028/NEWS/151029373 Couple from New York left their sons, ages 7 and 9, unattended because the boys did not want to return to their campground, police said. By Mary Ann Bragg Posted Oct. 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM NORTH TRURO — Two Niagara Falls, New York, residents will be arraigned in November on charges that they left two children, ages 7 and 9, alone for an hour in August on a public beach, according to Orleans District Court records. Charles Smith, 44, and Lindsay Pembleton, 30, will be arraigned Nov. 23 on one count each of reckless endangerment of a child, from an incident Aug. 23, records show. Police were called at 4 p.m. that day to the town of Truro’s side of Head of the Meadow Beach on a report by lifeguards that two young boys were alone and wanted to walk back to a nearby campground, according to a report by police Sgt. Carrie DeAngelo. When Deangelo arrived at the beach, Smith and Pembleton also had just arrived. The 7-year-old is Pembleton's son and the 9-year-old is Smith's son, according to the report. The couple, who were dating, told police they had left the boys behind, with instructions to stay out of the water, because the boys wanted to stay at the beach rather than go back to the campground with their parents, according to the report. Two lifeguards who were on duty at the time, Amy White and Matthias Christensen, told DeAngelo that the children were alone for about an hour, that they had only a blanket with them, that their shirts became soaked when it began to rain and that they were standing around a food truck with no adults in charge, according to the report. “Although Head of the Meadow is a family beach with lifeguards, the Truro police have been called there for numerous calls related to dog bites, shark sightings, lewd conduct and people taking pictures of children,” DeAngelo wrote in her report. “Through my training and experience as a sexual assault investigator young boys at the ages of 7 and 9 are prime candidates for sexual predators. This being a tourist community with a small year-round population, most people who frequent the beach are transients and unknown.” At the scene, DeAngelo told Pembleton and Smith that "leaving two boys ages 7 and 9 alone, without anyone knowing, without proper shelter from the elements and without any way of contacting them placed them in danger,” according to the report. On Aug. 23, DeAngelo filed reports of suspected child abuse or neglect against Pembleton and Smith in Massachusetts and New York and applied for criminal complaints against them in Orleans District Court, the police report says. A criminal history check conducted by DeAngelo showed that Pembleton faces a charge of failure to exercise reasonable control of a minor, related to an alleged domestic July 9 in Niagara Falls. — Follow Mary Ann Bragg on Twitter: @maryannbraggCCT.
Do you not remember the way it used to be when you were a kid or were you hatched/lived in a bubble??? I do and I did many many things without parental guidance and it didn't hurt a damn thing other than offend nosy Leftards!!! Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Leftards created this bullschitt that permeates our lives nowadays and now they don't want to have to bear the responsibility for what they created... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
When I was 8 years old, my cousin and I spent the whole summer swimming in the public pool at a local college for 1.00 per day. And we used to walk there 2 miles. Barefoot. Times have certainly changed :( Kids today will be under the complete control of the collective... or else.
When I was 8 or 9 I rode my bike all over Wildwood, From Wildwood Crest to North Wildwood - on my bike. Fun!
I'd do the same thing. I'd like to kick anybodies ass that says it is wrong. You're a loon at times.
"Collective?" You mean the money grubbing collections of a criminal fascist state, don't you?
My brother and I did this kind of thing nearly every day from the time we figured out how to get farther away from home than we were supposed to. I went camping a few years back, and ended up next to a spot where a 13 year old boy was left there to himself with equipment and food for a week. I was astonished, as my parents wouldn't have done this with me. We stayed 3 days, and the kid was amazing and would actually sweep his dirt and rake it into lines, fishing and cooking all for himself. He said nothing about being an Eagle scout candidate, but he was a Scout.
Would you sue the National Park Service when they drowned?
Uh-huh. And if they went missing you'd demand an AMBER alert, a county-wide search, call out the Coast Guard and the FBI, demand media time to put out a plea for help, and essentially ask everyone to stop what they're doing and look for your small children you left alone on some beach somewhere. Since you're not responsible, I guess we have to be, huh? Is that how you see it? We're expected to clean up after you because you have better things to do?
Sure have. Today, people sue everyone at the drop of a hat. And sympathetic juries award them millions. When I was 8, those people would have been laughed out of the courtroom with the judge telling them, "Next time, supervise your children".
Exactly. They demand the freedom to do what they want, then demand that the rest of us take care of them when they screw up. Screw that.
I do. I remember that we took personal responsibility. There was no "free" hospitalization. That came out of your pocket. People didn't sue other people, claiming it was their fault their child was hurt. And if someone's child went missing, gosh. What a shame. The parents should have watched them more closely. That's what I remember. Don't you?
Did you mean, "Would you sue only the National Park Service when they drowned?
Yah that's pretty much the Collective I had in mind.
FREEDOM!
I used to have to walk a mile to get to the bus stop no matter what the weather was, I did this from the time I turned 7 till we moved to another neighborhood when I turned 13. Used to stop at the convenience store every morning to get something to eat before the bus arrived... When I got my drivers license and my first car me and 3 other guys drove to Florida (2,000 miles round trip) for Spring break and we slept on the beach instead of wasting our money on a hotel... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
How did you learn personal responsibility? From your parents most likely. Here we have two parents teaching their child about being responsible - and you don't like it because of the possibility that something might happen and the parents might sue somebody? Why is it that every time a story like this is posted you trot out the same collectivist bullshit and insist that the State (in your opinion) has the power to dictate how parents must raise their children? In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Because the parents will sue the State if something happens. And you know that. Do act so f**king dumb. Given that the State is going to be held responsible, it only makes sense for the State to set up some rules and regulations to try to protect themselves. Now, I'll make a deal with you. If the parents are willing to accept 100% responsibility and not sue anyone, I'm willing to get rid of all these silly laws. Deal?
Baloney. These kids are 7 and 9. The parents are demonstrating irresponsibility. Their own.
Baloney. These kids are 7 and 9. See? There you go again. The parents are the ones who have the final say in when a child is responsible enough to be left on their own. Or are you still adamant in your belief that the State has the ultimate authority over children? In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Now you're doubling down on the assumption that all parents are going to file a lawsuit if something happens to their child. You can not possibly know that for a fact. You are still intent on punishing the parents because of something that might happen. ...it only makes sense for the State to set up some rules... Attaboy! You and your ilk will never be happy until all children are owned by the State and parenting becomes illegal. Just like all good little collectivists. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much FREEDOM! Yup! And penny candy at the corner store cost a penny.
As I said. If the parents are willing to take full responsibility for that decision, I have no problem with it. But they don't. If something bad happens to their child they hold others legally and financially responsible.
I never said "all". Are you saying NO parent would ever file a lawsuit? The fact that "some" or "many" or "most" COULD file a lawsuit is sufficient reason to have rules and regulations in effect to minimize irresponsible behavior by the parents.
I believe nothing of the sort. The only time govt should get involved between parents and child is if actual physical harm is being caused. The government should not even have a say in the education. Citizens banding together to form a school district yes, but not a distant behemoth. In my narrative a boy younger than I was trusted with more freedom than my parents allowed me to have. It shocked me, but again no one called the authorities. We observed and were happy to report he thrived. It further strengthened my belief in the strength of the individual.
Yep. Generation XBox evidently doesn't have those.
Made with real sugar. Not processed corn-olacrap.
In the above case, if the children were molested, kidnapped, injured, or drowned due to the negligence of the parents, do the parents have a right to sue? To demand that the county spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to search for their children? To demand that the local hospital spend tens of thousands of dollars for their care? The answer is yes to all three questions. But you're saying the local government has no power to insist that parents be responsible for their children?
"they were—gasp—wet from the rain."
#3. To: misterwhite (#2)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#4. To: Hank Rearden (#1)
If I were on that jury, the parents and kids would all be back home 30 minutes after closing statements and leftist pussies would have been told why in no uncertain terms.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#5. To: misterwhite (#2)
#6. To: Roscoe, misterwhite (#5)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
#8. To: Roscoe (#5)
#9. To: CZ82 (#7)
"Sounds like the parents should file a lawsuit"
#10. To: misterwhite (#9)
(Edited)
#11. To: CZ82 (#10)
"The world would be a much better place if those dumb people didn't have a say in how the rest of us live our lives..."
#12. To: misterwhite (#11)
#13. To: CZ82 (#12)
"Who says the parents phucked up anyway???"
#14. To: Deckard (#0)
Two face charges of leaving children alone at Truro beach
mbragg@capecodonline.com
Updated Oct 29, 2015 at 7:55 AM
#15. To: misterwhite (#13)
#16. To: misterwhite (#13)
Have the parents sign a document saying they won't sue or use any government services if something happens to their kids and they can do whatever they want.
#17. To: Deckard (#0)
#18. To: VxH (#17)
Times have certainly changed :(
New Jersey. Didn't have to worry about my parents -
because I stayed at my Aunt and Uncle's house.
#19. To: misterwhite (#13)
They left a 7-year-old and a 9-year-old on the beach by themselves while they went back to the campground. That's irresponsible and, as it turns out, against the law.
#20. To: VxH (#17)
Kids today will be under the complete control of the collective... or else.
#21. To: Deckard (#0)
#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)
(Edited)
I'd like to kick anybodies ass that says it is wrong.
#23. To: A K A Stone (#19)
"I'd do the same thing."
#24. To: VxH (#17)
"Times have certainly changed :("
#25. To: CZ82 (#16)
(Edited)
"Leftards created this bullschitt that permeates our lives no nowadays and now they don't want to have to bear the responsibility for what th they created..."
#26. To: CZ82 (#15)
"Do you not remember the way it used to be when you were a kid"
#27. To: Roscoe (#22)
"Would you sue the National Park Service when they drowned?"
#28. To: buckeroo (#20)
You mean the money grubbing collections of a criminal fascist state
#29. To: Chuck_Wagon (#18)
Fun!
#30. To: misterwhite (#26)
#31. To: misterwhite, CZ82, jeremiad, Stoner, A K A Stone, Hank Rearden (#26)
I remember that we took personal responsibility.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#32. To: Deckard (#31)
"and insist that the State (in your opinion) has the power to dictate how parents must raise their children"
#33. To: Deckard (#31)
"Here we have two parents teaching their child about being responsible"
#34. To: misterwhite (#33)
"Here we have two parents teaching their child about being responsible"
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#35. To: misterwhite (#32)
Because the parents will sue the State if something happens.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#36. To: VxH (#29)
Fun!
(Maybe 2 or 5 cents depending... Sometimes 10...)
#37. To: Deckard (#34)
"The parents are the ones who have the final say in when a child is responsible enough to be left on their own."
#38. To: Deckard (#35)
(Edited)
"Now you're doubling down on the assumption that all parents are going to file a lawsuit if something happens to their child."
#39. To: Deckard (#31)
#40. To: Deckard (#31)
From your parents most likely.
#41. To: Chuck_Wagon (#36)
And penny candy at the corner store cost a penny.
#42. To: jeremiad (#39)
"The only time govt should get involved between parents and child is if actual physical harm is being caused."
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