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Title: Egypt's Pyramids Were Grain Silos, Not Tombs
Source: Lead Stories
URL Source: http://ben-carson.leadstories.com/0 ... ere-grain-silos-not-tombs.html
Published: Nov 5, 2015
Author: Alan Duke
Post Date: 2015-11-05 08:58:10 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 33936
Comments: 60

Ben Carson, one of the Republican frontrunners in the race to be U.S. president, believes archeologists got it wrong about Egypt's pyramids. The huge stone structures were built to store massive quantities of grain, not to serve as tomb for rulers, according to what Carson said in a 1998 graduation speech at Michigan's Andrews University.

And the remarkable pyramids were built not by the pharaohs, but by the biblical Joseph, son of Jacob, Carson hypothesized.

In the Old Testament book of Genesis, Joseph was said to have "stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure," Carson said in a video of the address. Carson been a popular speaker for conservative Christian groups for years. Here's the speech posted on YouTube:

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#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

And the remarkable pyramids were built not by the pharaohs, but by the biblical Joseph, son of Jacob, Carson hypothesized.

In the Old Testament book of Genesis, Joseph was said to have "stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure,"

I like a lot of what he says, but on this he's just ignorant.

At that time, man did not have the tools or knowledge necessary to build the pyramids.

One look at the interior will tell you that the pyramids were not grain silos.

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Deckard  posted on  2015-11-05   10:17:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#4)

This really is a red-letter day for LF. We finally found just one thing that you won't believe.

Would it help if Carson said there was a conspiracy by powerful and cunning Egyptian elites to use the pyramids to store grain? That it was a conspiracy by the Pharaoh and his cronies to perpetrate a pyramid scheme on the helpless citizens of Egypt?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-05   10:46:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7) (Edited)

We finally found just one thing that you won't believe.

Really?

Well, there are many things I don't believe - one of them being that you are anything but a dickwad.

And then you ping the police state shill GrandIsland to the thread?

Yeh - you're a real class act.

Would it help if Carson said there was a conspiracy by powerful and cunning Egyptian elites to use the pyramids to store grain?

And your insanity continues unabated.

Deckard  posted on  2015-11-05   11:12:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#8)

And your insanity continues unabated.

Well, at least one of you are insane, and perhaps a dickwad as well.

"Carson’s claims seem to be drawn in part from Egyptologist Dr Wyatt Thom’s 1984 book Egypt Egypt Egypt. According to Thom, the pyramids were built to house grain, and mummified bodies were placed inside as scarecrows to keep birds away. If you’re wondering how that makes sense given that the pyramids are enclosed structures, Thom claims this is because you’re “hamstrung by a very modern conception of birds”.

It is entirely possible that the first pryamids had a dual purpose.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-05   14:35:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SOSO (#12)

It is entirely possible that the first pryamids had a dual purpose.

It was not to store grain. Monuments to vanity by long-dead monarchs.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-05   16:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#15)

It was not to store grain. Monuments to vanity by long-dead monarchs.

Most likely so. But it would be interesting to find some artifact that the massive storage of grain actually happened and where.

SOSO  posted on  2015-11-05   16:42:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SOSO (#16) (Edited)

Anyone who has been inside a pyramid would understand that only small quantities of grain could be stored inside. Look at the size of the buildings we use to store grain today but we also store vast quantities by laying tapaulins on the ground and piling up the grain. Massive stone silos were not necessary to store large quantities. It is a pity an intelligent person did not do some research before expounding such a dumb theory. The size of the pyramids is impressive but the space available inside is small with narrow passages. The egyptions built their day to day buildings from mud (adobe) and such buildings do not last millenia thus we have no examples of how they store large quantities. You also have to consider the size of the populations. They were not vast millions as we have today. Even the hebrew of Moses day outnumbered the egyptians

I do however agree with him regarding the origin of humans, we are a seperate species. Darwin's theories speak of adaptation but seperate species still exist without complete change of form

paraclete  posted on  2015-11-05   17:10:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: paraclete (#17) (Edited)

we also store vast quantities by laying tapaulins on the ground and piling up the grain.

Where do we do this? I've never seen or heard of it before.

BTW,I have never been in a pyramid before,either. Never had any interest at all in Egypt,either in Biblical or modern times.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-09   9:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete (#49) (Edited)

Where do we do this? I've never seen or heard of it before.

BTW,I have never been in a pyramid before,either. Never had any interest at all in Egypt,either in Biblical or modern times.

When there are wheat surplusses and insufficient silo capacity this methodology is used to store the grain, you would have to be travelling through wheat country to see it. As Eqypt is an extremely dry place there is not the same problems of storage as encountered in a wet place. This idea that pyramids were grain silos has about as much credibility as pyramids as landing platforms for space craft

I have been inside a pyramid, lots of stone, very little space, rooms are not huge as you might think, passages are narrow because afterall they are formed by gaps in rows of stone walls.. Pyramids are not hollow inside, dealing with the weight of thousands of tons of stone must be carefully managed

paraclete  posted on  2015-11-09   17:34:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#58. To: paraclete, sneakypete (#55)

When there are wheat surplusses and insufficient silo capacity this methodology is used to store the grain, you would have to be travelling through wheat country to see it.

I should clarify. The only grain I've seen stored outside and covered with a tarp, sometimes for months, is corn.

I think wheat is too perishable to be stored outside like that. And wheat is mostly for human consumption where corn is for ethanol plants and livestock feeding operations like feedlots. Corn is also more resistant to rot because it is a harder grain than wheat is. So wheat always gets stored in the elevator, it seems. And they often have wheat from the summer harvest still in those elevator bins when they start dumping corn in huge piles on the ground.

In recent years, I've even seen farmers not create their own little corn stash on tarps on the ground that they cover. These are long mounds of corn up to about 6' tall, going maybe a hundred yards. And they just come back over the next month or so to clean it up and haul it to town. Also, you don't have to have a grain cart driver to help you that way. One farmer can harvest it and dump it and then truck it to the elevator after harvest is over.

UNL.edu: Computations on Grain Stored in Various Configurations

They indicate around 10 grains but I can't even imagine they would ever store soybeans outside under a tarp. Too risky with a high-dollar crop.

DDG: images of corn piles outdoors, both covered and uncovered [Notice the big port facilities with mountains of corn, completely uncovered and open to the weather. This comes mostly from the Plains states via barge down the Mississippi where it gets offloaded and reloaded onto cargo ships.]

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-11 08:00:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: paraclete (#55)

When there are wheat surplusses and insufficient silo capacity this methodology is used to store the grain, you would have to be travelling through wheat country to see it.

Ok,thanks.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-11 17:29:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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