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Title: Egypt's Pyramids Were Grain Silos, Not Tombs
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URL Source: http://ben-carson.leadstories.com/0 ... ere-grain-silos-not-tombs.html
Published: Nov 5, 2015
Author: Alan Duke
Post Date: 2015-11-05 08:58:10 by Willie Green
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Views: 30383
Comments: 60
Ben Carson, one of the Republican frontrunners in the race to be U.S. president, believes archeologists got it wrong about Egypt's pyramids. The huge stone structures were built to store massive quantities of grain, not to serve as tomb for rulers, according to what Carson said in a 1998 graduation speech at Michigan's Andrews University.
And the remarkable pyramids were built not by the pharaohs, but by the biblical Joseph, son of Jacob, Carson hypothesized.
In the Old Testament book of Genesis, Joseph was said to have "stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure," Carson said in a video of the address. Carson been a popular speaker for conservative Christian groups for years. Here's the speech posted on YouTube:
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#4. To: Willie Green (#0)
In the Old Testament book of Genesis, Joseph was said to have "stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure," I like a lot of what he says, but on this he's just ignorant. At that time, man did not have the tools or knowledge necessary to build the pyramids. One look at the interior will tell you that the pyramids were not grain silos.
This really is a red-letter day for LF. We finally found just one thing that you won't believe. Would it help if Carson said there was a conspiracy by powerful and cunning Egyptian elites to use the pyramids to store grain? That it was a conspiracy by the Pharaoh and his cronies to perpetrate a pyramid scheme on the helpless citizens of Egypt?
Really? Well, there are many things I don't believe - one of them being that you are anything but a dickwad. And then you ping the police state shill GrandIsland to the thread? Yeh - you're a real class act. Would it help if Carson said there was a conspiracy by powerful and cunning Egyptian elites to use the pyramids to store grain? And your insanity continues unabated.
Well, at least one of you are insane, and perhaps a dickwad as well. "Carson’s claims seem to be drawn in part from Egyptologist Dr Wyatt Thom’s 1984 book Egypt Egypt Egypt. According to Thom, the pyramids were built to house grain, and mummified bodies were placed inside as scarecrows to keep birds away. If you’re wondering how that makes sense given that the pyramids are enclosed structures, Thom claims this is because you’re “hamstrung by a very modern conception of birds”. It is entirely possible that the first pryamids had a dual purpose.
It was not to store grain. Monuments to vanity by long-dead monarchs.
Most likely so. But it would be interesting to find some artifact that the massive storage of grain actually happened and where.
Anyone who has been inside a pyramid would understand that only small quantities of grain could be stored inside. Look at the size of the buildings we use to store grain today but we also store vast quantities by laying tapaulins on the ground and piling up the grain. Massive stone silos were not necessary to store large quantities. It is a pity an intelligent person did not do some research before expounding such a dumb theory. The size of the pyramids is impressive but the space available inside is small with narrow passages. The egyptions built their day to day buildings from mud (adobe) and such buildings do not last millenia thus we have no examples of how they store large quantities. You also have to consider the size of the populations. They were not vast millions as we have today. Even the hebrew of Moses day outnumbered the egyptians I do however agree with him regarding the origin of humans, we are a seperate species. Darwin's theories speak of adaptation but seperate species still exist without complete change of form
Just curious, are all pryamids the same? What are the origins of the very first pryamids? Could the first pryamid designs have served a dual function or served as prototypes for the pryamids that did survive? I agree that a civilization that had the wherewithal to design and build the pyramids would have known which geometric shapes would have the more favorable volume/surface area relationship (hence minimum construction materials requirements) - and it isn't a pryamid (fyi, it's a sphere) . Where might the ancient Egyptians store massive quantities of grain in their hot and mostly arid lands to last 5-7 years not only from weather but critters? I am not supporting Carson's contention but can see the possibility of a connection in the development of the pryamid design. BTW, are you the Paraclete of Kaborka?
I don't expect all pyramids are the same, but successful designs are repeated, the great pyramid consisted of a great deal of stone with a relatively small part given over to burial chamnbers, etc. The essential point about them was not to declare how large my grain storages are but how great I am. They took decades to built so the suggestion they were built to house grain for a seven year drought in Joseph's time is just ignoring the facts. It is also very poor strategy to house all your grain in one large structure, if the enemy controls it you are doomed I gave an explanation of one method of storing grain they might have used, very applicable to a dry climate but it is quite possible they constructed buildings as needed. The bybical accounts suggests mud bricks were common so it would not take long to construct such buildings. It is important we think and not just accept any idea that floats by, even if it comes out of someone with political aspirations paraclete means 'counsellor' I am not mexican and therefore not from Kaborka vaya con Dias
#21. To: paraclete (#20)
I ask you to be willing to think and accept the possibility the the initial design of the very first pryamids (the ones that didn't survive 2000 thousand years) may have been inspired by the design of ancient Egyptian grain storage structures (which also did not survive very long), especially designs incorporating critter control for extended periods of time. I certainly do not think that the pryamids we see today were built for grain storage. I do believe that it is possible that they were inspired by earlier designs of grain storage structures - and ceratinly could have incorporated what Egyptians learned from building grain storage structures. Societies advance by building upon the knowledge of what things work and what do not for the intended purpose. I think that unless you know with reasonable certainity what the original prototype for an Egyptian pryamid actually was you should open up your mind to other real possibilities as you appear to be short sighted in your thinking. You may have the last word on this subject.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAnd the remarkable pyramids were built not by the pharaohs, but by the biblical Joseph, son of Jacob, Carson hypothesized.
#7. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#4)
#8. To: TooConservative (#7)
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We finally found just one thing that you won't believe.
#12. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#8)
And your insanity continues unabated.
#15. To: SOSO (#12)
It is entirely possible that the first pryamids had a dual purpose.
#16. To: TooConservative (#15)
It was not to store grain. Monuments to vanity by long-dead monarchs.
#17. To: SOSO (#16)
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#18. To: paraclete (#17)
Anyone who has been inside a pyramid would understand that only small quantities of grain could be stored inside.
#20. To: SOSO (#18)
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Just curious, are all pyramids the same?
Replies to Comment # 20. It is important we think and not just accept any idea that floats by, even if it comes out of someone with political aspirations
#22. To: paraclete (#20)
paraclete means 'counsellor'
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