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Title: MARCO RUBIO IS AN ANCHOR BABY AND NOT ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT!
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URL Source: https://themarshallreport.wordpress ... eligible-to-run-for-president/
Published: Nov 4, 2015
Author: dianne marshall
Post Date: 2015-11-04 07:33:51 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 42
Yes you heard that right. At the time Marco Rubio was born in the United States neither of his parents were United States Citizens. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida on May 28, 1971, the second son and third child of Mario Rubio and Oria Garcia. His parents were Cubans who had immigrated to the United States in 1956 and were naturalized as U.S. citizens in 1975!. That makes little Marco an anchor baby. Don’t expect him to think like the average American. He has now both said and shown us he doesn’t respect the office of the senate, and is not to be trusted to the office of President! The question that remains is: DOES MARCO RUBIO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT? The descriptive clause in the Constitution says this: “Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents at least one of whom was a U.S. citizen at the time) may serve president of the United States.” (see link below) When Marco Rubio announced he was running, for president, Orly Taitz, and Mario Apuzzo (who both filed multiple lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility) asserted that Mario Rubio was not eligible to run because he was born to parents who were not U.S. citizens at the time of his respective birth. They both publically asserted that Marco Rubio is not eligible. To me it appears that the answer is NO, Rubio is not qualified. Why is the news silent on this one? Oh and by the way, Rubio’s sob story for the campaign that his parents were Cuban refugees and fled to the US to escape the abusive power of Castro? He forgot to tell you that his family arrived in the US in 1956 and Castro did not rise to power until 1959. Another lie. Poster Comment: Oh and by the way, Rubio’s sob story for the campaign that his parents were Cuban refugees and fled to the US to escape the abusive power of Castro? He forgot to tell you that his family arrived in the US in 1956 and Castro did not rise to power until 1959. Another lie.
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#2. To: A K A Stone, NATURAL Born Citizen (#0)
“Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents at least one of whom was a U.S. citizen at the time) may serve president of the United States.” (see link below) Unknown what the author is quoting, but it's NOT the US Constitution! "native-born" is not in there. No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
A lot of people miss this. It spells out that the Founders anticipated that a natural-born American citizens might live up to age 21 overseas and still be eligible to run as president. Rubio is considered natural-born since that is how we have defined the 14th Amendment. We have legislatively altered the definition slightly several times because the Constitution simply says natural-born but does not exhaustively define the term. I always like how the Founders, themselves British subjects, grandfathered themselves into eligibility with this modest phrase.
Underscore in the handwritten Jay original letter. Say "natural born citizen" with a strong emphasis on the word born, and much of the confusion goes away.
Who is a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America It has not been defined in the Constitution nor in any later statutes, because it had been self evident in the time when the Constitution was written, codified in the then contemporary encyclopedia "The Law of Nations" (1758) by Emerich de Vattel. (As a legal source "Law of Nations" is mentioned in Article I, Section 8, #10 of the Constitution in respect to the authority of the US Congress to enforce the law of nations, in particular - against piracies and felonies on high seas). Another indication to the meaning of the term may be found in the Supreme Court's side definition of "natural born citizen" as "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens" (Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 1875). After the Framers, all the presidential contenders (up to Sen. McCain in 2008 but not Obama) did officially satisfy this definition, demonstrating continuity of the meaning "Natural born citizenship" consistent with that of Vattel . (In the past only one President Chester Arthur 1881-1885 violated it, hiding and destroying the traces of the British citizenship of his father, discovered only after his death. The carefully hidden violation of Chester Arthur in fact is an additional argument that the Vattel's definition was valid and he was aware of it). Not only did the continuity and understanding of the Vattel meaning of the "Natural born citizenship" take place well up to 2008: It was clearly disliked and stood on the way of some planers long before emergence of Obama. Since 2002 some members of the US Congress had made various attempts to rid of the concept Natural Born Citizen, which all have failed (here, here, here, and here - the research of J.B. Williams). Here are the list of those attempts: ...................
It has not been defined in the Constitution nor in any later statutes, because it had been self evident in the time when the Constitution was written, codified in the then contemporary encyclopedia "The Law of Nations" (1758) by Emerich de Vattel. (As a legal source "Law of Nations" is mentioned in Article I, Section 8, #10 of the Constitution in respect to the authority of the US Congress to enforce the law of nations, in particular - against piracies and felonies on high seas). According to Chapter 19, §212 of "Law of Nations", "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens". The concept "Natural born citizen" is a twofold criterion meaning that: Both parents must be the citizens of, and the birth must take place in the concerned country, assuming that the citizenship inherited by this child and the loyalty are never changed ever after. [...] It has not been defined in the Constitution nor in any later statutes, because it had been self evident in the time when the Constitution was written, codified in the then contemporary encyclopedia "The Law of Nations" (1758) by Emerich de Vattel. (As a legal source "Law of Nations" is mentioned in Article I, Section 8, #10 of the Constitution in respect to the authority of the US Congress to enforce the law of nations, in particular - against piracies and felonies on high seas). The Law of Nations referred to in the U.S. Constitution was not a book about the Law of Nations written in French by a Swiss philosopher who died in 1767 before there was a United States, or U.S. citizens, natural born or otherwise. It referred to the unwritten body of law that grew up by custom and usage between nations, and which Emmerich de Vattel wrote a book about. That body of law is very succinctly defined in Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Ed.: Law of nations is nothing more than a now-archaic term for International law. International law per Black’s is, INTERNATIONAL LAW has nothing to do with any one nation determining the status of its own citizens. It does not pertain to the internal affairs of a single sovereign. It deals with legal relations between nations. The United States recognized its application on the high seas, not within United States. Vattel, who wrote about International Law, and died while the Americas were colonies, remains irrelevant to United States determinations regarding United States citizenship status. Despite the hallucinations of some birthers, International law does not control the domestic determinations of citizenship in the United States or any other nation, and American citizenship determinations are not made in The Hague.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe descriptive clause in the Constitution says this:
U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:
#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
(Edited)
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
..., or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,...
#21. To: TooConservative, hondo68 (#3)
We have legislatively altered the definition slightly several times because the Constitution simply says natural-born but does not exhaustively define the term.
Permit me to hint, whether it would not be side & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen.
#25. To: nolu chan, Article I, Section 8, 10, Law of Nations (#21)
A "Natural born citizen" - the most crucial concept of the moment in America - is confusing (and deliberately confused). This concept is used in the Constitution of the US (Article II, Section 1, #4) as a precondition for presidency - and only for presidency, being clearly distinguished from ordinary citizenship.
According to Chapter 19, §212 of "Law of Nations", "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens". The concept "Natural born citizen" is a twofold criterion meaning that:
In other words, a natural born citizen means at least a second generation citizen of the country. Vattel's own note on the margin of his book refers to the Roman law: NEMO PLUS JURIS TRANSFERRE POTEST, QUAM IPSE HABET, meaning "No one can give more rights than he himself has" (by Dr. A. Altec). Except for Obama/Soetoro, the Vattel definition had been always applied, the last precedent being the US Senate resolution 511 in 2008 (also here and here) acknowledging Sen. McCain as a natural born citizen.
Indeed, the goal of the Sen. Res. 511 was not to refresh the brain dead America about the concept of the US Natural Born as defined in Law of Nations by Vattel. Its goal was merely to justify campaigning of McCain (which did not qualify because he was born in Panama rather than in the canal zone). In doing so, the authors inadvertently revealed what they knew and kept in mind - the two-fold requirement of the definition of Vattel, though not mentioning it explicitly. (See below how the US Congress had tried to rid of this Constitutional requirement to presidency years prior to emergence of Obama).
Often "Natural born citizenship" is confused with §1401 of the US Code "Nationals and citizens of United States at birth". Although the words sound similar, §1401 defines only ordinary citizenship including such shallow one as that of anchor babies (i.e. born to legal guests of the country, §1401(a), never mind illegal residents).
The Constitution clearly and explicitly excludes ordinary citizenship for presidency: ordinary citizenship was reserved only for the presidential candidates - contemporaries of the Framers (referred as the grandfather clause). Definitely the "Natural born citizenship" is not the same as ordinary citizenship, but something stronger. By not explicitly quoting the Vattel's definition, the Constitution therefore leaves some room for confusions. (Many such confusions resulted of deliberate efforts of "progressives" to erode the basic constitutional concepts inconvenient for them).
Fortunately there exists (at least) one original US document directly defining the "Natural born citizenship" according to Emerich de Vattel. This document (which does have legal binding) is the actual text of the FIRST CONGRESS in 1790 (see below).
Other arguments in favor of the definition of Vattel are the following. The Framers (in their correspondence) explicitly wished to exclude dual loyalty, and explicitly required that the US citizenship of the president be deeper than ordinary citizenship (such as that of their contemporaries). After all, any one can acquire an ordinary US citizenship in some point of one's life, so the Framers clearly excluded this kind of citizenship. On the contrary, the Natural Born Citizenship cannot be acquired: it may be only inherited.
H.J.R. 38 (1977)
H.J.R 59 (2003)
H.J.R. 67 (2003)
S.2128 (2004)
H.J.R. 104 (2004)
H.J.R. 2 (2005)
H.J.R. 15 (2005)
H.J.R. 42 (2005)
S.2678 (2008).
So finally in 2008 they simply violated the Constitutional requirement, created the precedent and therefore de-facto have changed the Constitution without any due constitutional process. It was "The Audacity of Dope", rephrasing the notorious title.
#28. To: hondo68 (#25)
A "Natural born citizen" - the most crucial concept of the moment in America - is confusing (and deliberately confused). This concept is used in the Constitution of the US (Article II, Section 1, #4) as a precondition for presidency - and only for presidency, being clearly distinguished from ordinary citizenship.
Law of Nations. See International law.
Those laws governing the legal relations between nations. Rules and principles of general application dealing with the conduct of nations and of international organizations and with their relations inter se, as well as with some of their relations with persons, whether natural or juridical. Restatement, Foreign Relations (Third) § 101. Body of consensual principles which have evolved from customs and practices civilized nations utilize in regulating their relationships and such customs have great moral force. Zenith Radio Corp. v. Matshushita Elec. Co., Ltd., D.C.Pa., 494 F.Supp. 1161, 1178. International customs and treaties are generally considered to be the two most important sources of international law.
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