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Title: How Did President Bush leave Iraq
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Published: Oct 31, 2015
Author: How Bush Left Iraq
Post Date: 2015-10-31 09:30:26 by no gnu taxes
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With ISIS now running the whole region after the blunders of the Kenyan, it might be helpful to remember how Bush left Iraq:

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3/17/2009

In most ways, the news from Iraq couldn't be better. People there feel more secure, and are more committed to democracy, than ever. Is it possible that President Bush was right after all?

A poll of average Iraqis conducted by ABC News, the BBC and Japan's NHK shows significant progress on virtually all fronts. Yet, we've heard nary a peep about it from anyone.

Some 85% of respondents said their neighborhood security was good, vs. 62% a year ago and just 43% in August of 2007. And 52% said security had gotten better in the last year during the Bush-Petraeus surge, which was widely ridiculed at the time as an unnecessary escalation of the Iraq War.

Support for democracy jumped to 64%, a 21-percentage-point gain since 2007, according to a report on CNSNews.com. As for how Iraqis felt about the general state of affairs in Iraq, 58% called it very good or quite good, up significantly from 43% last year and 22% in 2007.

When asked what their concerns are today, Iraqis sound a lot like Americans: Jobs and prices are at the top of their list, not war, not security, not terrorism.

In short, it sounds like we not only won the war, but the peace as well. And for those who cast a skeptical eye on the idea that any Islamic country could ever be democratized, it turns out the former President Bush is winning that debate too.

It's become de rigueur to deride Bush's "failed" policies in Iraq. No one speaks well of them except, maybe, Iraqis.

But here are the facts, stark as they are: During his vicious 20-year reign, Saddam Hussein (remember him?) killed an estimated 5% of Iraq's population. That works out to about 5,000 people a month slaughtered by the regime.

You might disagree that Bush was right to depose this murderous thug. But in doing so, you would then have to defend the deaths of thousands of innocents.

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#6. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

How Did President Bush leave Iraq?

With his ass in a sling.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-31   13:04:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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As for how Iraqis felt about the general state of affairs in Iraq, 58% called it very good or quite good

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-31   13:17:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

As for how Iraqis felt about the general state of affairs in Iraq, 58% called it very good or quite good

So you are a publick opinion POLL expert, are ya? What did the Iraqi's do with their 250,000 dead bodies that GWBush gave them? Celebrate?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-31   13:30:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#8)

250,000 dead bodies that GWBush gave them?

made up numbers

But since you are into numbers, what did they do with these bodies

But here are the facts, stark as they are: During his vicious 20-year reign, Saddam Hussein (remember him?) killed an estimated 5% of Iraq's population. That works out to about 5,000 people a month slaughtered by the regime.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-31   14:47:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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But here are the facts, stark as they are: During his vicious 20-year reign, Saddam Hussein (remember him?) killed an estimated 5% of Iraq's population. That works out to about 5,000 people a month slaughtered by the regime.

The problem is that they breed faster than that. What's really needed is a Sunni-Shia version of the 30 years war. The herd over these really needs some serious thinning. At the end of WW1 there were 250 million Mohammedans, now they number 1.6 billion. As much as I admire Saddam for killing so many of his fellow Mohammedans I must admit that his efforts fell far short of what is needed. His war with Iran did far better although it tragically ended far too soon.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-10-31 15:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: no gnu taxes (#10)

As always, I was being kind to you: Take your pick from below.

Scientific surveys: Source/Estimated violent deaths/Time period

1) Iraq Family Health Survey 151,000 violent deaths March 2003 to June 2006

2) Lancet survey 601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths March 2003 to June 2006

3) Opinion Research Business survey 1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict March 2003 to August 2007

4) PLOS Medicine Survey Approximately 500,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war. March 2003 to June, 2011

Body counts: Source/Documented deaths from violence/Time period

1) Associated Press 110,600 violent deaths March 2003 to April 2009

2) Iraq Body Count project 112,667–123,284 civilian deaths from violence. 174,000

civilian and combatant deaths March 2003 to March 2013

3) Classified Iraq War Logs 109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths. January 2004 to December 2009

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-31 16:23:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: no gnu taxes (#10)

Good grief man - after all this time you still haven't gotten over your Bush man-crush?

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