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Bang / Guns Title: Breaking: Shocking Gun Confiscation Begins in New York! Breaking: Shocking Gun Confiscation Begins in New York! Fellow Conservative, We’ve known this was coming. When New York State Legislators passed laws to allow municipalities to confiscate law-abiding citizens’ firearms, it was only a matter of time before they decided to exercise that power. On October 22, 2015, the Suffolk County Police Department (SCPD) called a member of a motorcycle club and informed him that his pistol permits were under review because of his alleged membership in the Pagans MC. For those of you who don’t know, the Pagans Motorcycle Club is what the FBI calls an “outlaw” motorcycle club. The FBI alleges that the club is involved in organized crime. When the SCPD found out that one of its county’s legal gun owners was a member in this club, they ordered him to come in for an “interview” and to bring his 10 legally owned and registered handguns with him. But they had no intention of interviewing him. When he arrived, the Police ordered him to surrender his firearms and pistol permit… all because he is a member of a group that the police don’t like. Now to be clear, this club member (who prefers to remain nameless) has a squeaky clean record. He has never been convicted of a crime. His motorcycle club membership not withstanding, he has done nothing to get put on the police department’s radar. But because of his association with a motorcycle club, something that is a First Amendment right, the police just confiscated his guns. Unbelievable… If this can happen somewhere in America, it can happen anywhere in America! You could be next. Tell Congress to put a stop to this practice and outlaw these illegal confiscations once and for all! Whatever the motorcycle club has been accused of is a separate issue. If police are allowed to just confiscate guns from people because they don’t like the groups they’ve joined, it’s easy to see how that can get completely out of control. A lot of liberals are pushing for the National Rifle Association to be labeled as a “terror group.” No, that’s not a joke. That was actually a headline in the New York Daily News earlier this month. Can you imagine if a police department confiscated your guns because they didn’t like your NRA membership? Or they didn’t like the gun club you belonged to? This is where it is heading. You no longer need to be convicted of a crime to have your guns taken away. You no longer need to be admitted to a mental hospital. In Obama’s America, hearsay is enough. Don’t we have rights anymore? Don’t we have the Bill of Rights? Whatever happened to freedom of speech? This man had his guns away not because he committed a crime, or was even suspected of committing a crime. His guns were confiscated because police didn’t like the motorcycle club he belonged to. If we let this slide then we’re all in danger! Do you see? This is the left’s end-game. Tell Congress to enforce the 2nd Amendment nationwide and put a stop to these unconstitutional confiscations! Time and time again, we have warned that registration always leads to confiscation. Here is proof of that. Without the registry, police would never have been able to target this man. Here is someone who jumped through all the hoops. He underwent a background check, bought his pistols legally, and then registered them with the state. He had no criminal record. I want you to think about all the clubs and organizations you belong to. Now imagine that your local police department started violating your constitutional rights because they didn’t like the club/organization. Picture them confiscating your guns, stopping you from voting, or arresting you for speaking your mind at a town hall meeting all because of your clubs and associations. When we allow injustice to slide against one of us, then it puts all of us at risk! When Obama met with police chiefs from across the country earlier this week, he pushed for the very universal registration scheme that made this injustice possible. At the time of the founding, only 3% of American colonists took up arms to fight against British tyranny. The other 97% either resisted passively, were too afraid to do anything, or remained loyal to the crown. I am calling on you to be part of that 3% now. Get loud and DEMAND that Congress put a stop to these gun confiscations once and for all! I cannot stress enough; you MUST FaxBlast your Congressman and Senators demanding that this injustice be stopped! Sincerely, Joe Otto Conservative Daily Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 16.
#2. To: Stoner (#0)
They can't help. This is a STATE law, not a federal one.
Oh HORSESHIT! This is the power of state government unbrideled by the US Constitution, not Zimbabwe or any other government that can make up rules as they wish. State laws fall under federal protections which include the US Bill of Rights. The USSC shall reign in, pal. White, you are all fuckedupped in the head more than anytyme in the past.
The Kachalsky case was adversely decided at the Westchester County Court (2008), the U.S. District Court affirmed and provided summary judgment against it (2011), the 2nd Circuit held the NY law was Constitutional and affirmed the lower courts (2012), and the U.S. Supreme Court DENIED Cert (2013). The complete chain of court decisions indicates otherwise.
#24. To: nolu chan (#16)
Time will tell. The clear denial of the Second Amendment is the precursor of and about a fascist government; court decisions are overturned all the tyme, too.
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